Judaism and zionism are extreme opposites

[louie888]

Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah. It affirms Divine Providence and, accordingly, views Jewish exile as a punishment for sin. Redemption may be achieved solely through prayer and penance. Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens.

Zionism rejects the Creator, His Revelation and reward and punishment. Among its fruits are the persecution of the Palestinian people and the spiritual and physical endangering of the Jewish people. It encourages treasonous, dual loyalty among unsuspecting Jews throughout the world. At its root Zionism sees reality as barren and desacralized. It is the antithesis of Torah Judaism.

What is Zionism? Judaism versus Zionism

 

[louie888]

From the link above...

There is a vile lie, which stalks the Jewish people across the globe. It is a lie so heinous, so far from the truth, that it can only gain popularity due to the complicity of powerful forces in the "mainstream" media and educational establishment.

It is a lie which has brought many innocent people untold suffering and if unchecked has the potential to create extraordinary tragedy in the future.
It is the lie that declares that Judaism and Zionism are identical.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Judaism is the belief in revelation at Sinai. It is the belief that exile is a punishment for Jewish sins.

Zionism has for over a century denied Sinaitic revelation. It believes that Jewish exile can be ended by military aggression.

Zionism has spent the past century strategically dispossessing the Palestinian people. It has ignored their just claims and subjected them to persecution, torture and death.

Torah Jews the world over are shocked and pained at this short-lived dogma of irreligiosity and cruelty. Thousands of Torah scholars and saints have condemned this movement from its inception. They knew that the pre-existing good relationship between Jews and Muslims in the Holy Land was bound to suffer as Zionism advanced.

The so-called "State of Israel" stands rejected on religious grounds by the Torah. Its monstrous insensitivity to the laws of basic decency and fairness appall all men be they Jewish or not....

We are saddened day in and day out at the terrible toll of death emanating from the Holy Land. Not one of them would have occurred if Zionism had not unleashed its evil energies upon the world.

As Jews we are called upon to live in peace and harmony with all men. We are exhorted to be law abiding and patriotic citizens in all lands....

 

[Roudy]

From the link above...

There is a vile lie, which stalks the Jewish people across the globe. It is a lie so heinous, so far from the truth, that it can only gain popularity due to the complicity of powerful forces in the "mainstream" media and educational establishment.

It is a lie which has brought many innocent people untold suffering and if unchecked has the potential to create extraordinary tragedy in the future.
It is the lie that declares that Judaism and Zionism are identical.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Judaism is the belief in revelation at Sinai. It is the belief that exile is a punishment for Jewish sins.

Zionism has for over a century denied Sinaitic revelation. It believes that Jewish exile can be ended by military aggression.

Zionism has spent the past century strategically dispossessing the Palestinian people. It has ignored their just claims and subjected them to persecution, torture and death.

Torah Jews the world over are shocked and pained at this short-lived dogma of irreligiosity and cruelty. Thousands of Torah scholars and saints have condemned this movement from its inception. They knew that the pre-existing good relationship between Jews and Muslims in the Holy Land was bound to suffer as Zionism advanced.

The so-called "State of Israel" stands rejected on religious grounds by the Torah. Its monstrous insensitivity to the laws of basic decency and fairness appall all men be they Jewish or not....

We are saddened day in and day out at the terrible toll of death emanating from the Holy Land. Not one of them would have occurred if Zionism had not unleashed its evil energies upon the world.

As Jews we are called upon to live in peace and harmony with all men. We are exhorted to be law abiding and patriotic citizens in all lands....

From Achmed Monte's nutty site:

"Judaism is the belief in revelation at Sinai. It is the belief that exile is a punishment for Jewish sins."

Ha ha ha, ho ho ho hee hee hee! The things these desperate Jew haters resort to and actually believe in, I have to admit, it's quite amusing.

 

[louie888]

..."Judaism is the belief in revelation at Sinai. It is the belief that exile is a punishment for Jewish sins."...

You deny this as fact?

Don't forget that:

Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah. It affirms Divine Providence and, accordingly, views Jewish exile as a punishment for sin. Redemption may be achieved solely through prayer and penance. Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens.

Zionism rejects the Creator, His Revelation and reward and punishment. Among its fruits are the persecution of the Palestinian people and the spiritual and physical endangering of the Jewish people. It encourages treasonous, dual loyalty among unsuspecting Jews throughout the world. At its root Zionism sees reality as barren and desacralized. It is the antithesis of Torah Judaism.

What is Zionism? Judaism versus Zionism

 

[Indeependent]

..."Judaism is the belief in revelation at Sinai. It is the belief that exile is a punishment for Jewish sins."...

You deny this as fact?

Don't forget that:

Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah. It affirms Divine Providence and, accordingly, views Jewish exile as a punishment for sin. Redemption may be achieved solely through prayer and penance. Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens.

Zionism rejects the Creator, His Revelation and reward and punishment. Among its fruits are the persecution of the Palestinian people and the spiritual and physical endangering of the Jewish people. It encourages treasonous, dual loyalty among unsuspecting Jews throughout the world. At its root Zionism sees reality as barren and desacralized. It is the antithesis of Torah Judaism.

What is Zionism? Judaism versus Zionism

I'm glad you think that a group who comprise .0000001% of Jews represents all Jews.
You really are a moron.

 

[Hollie]

From the link above...

There is a vile lie, which stalks the Jewish people across the globe. It is a lie so heinous, so far from the truth, that it can only gain popularity due to the complicity of powerful forces in the "mainstream" media and educational establishment.

It is a lie which has brought many innocent people untold suffering and if unchecked has the potential to create extraordinary tragedy in the future.
It is the lie that declares that Judaism and Zionism are identical.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Judaism is the belief in revelation at Sinai. It is the belief that exile is a punishment for Jewish sins.

Zionism has for over a century denied Sinaitic revelation. It believes that Jewish exile can be ended by military aggression.

Zionism has spent the past century strategically dispossessing the Palestinian people. It has ignored their just claims and subjected them to persecution, torture and death.

Torah Jews the world over are shocked and pained at this short-lived dogma of irreligiosity and cruelty. Thousands of Torah scholars and saints have condemned this movement from its inception. They knew that the pre-existing good relationship between Jews and Muslims in the Holy Land was bound to suffer as Zionism advanced.

The so-called "State of Israel" stands rejected on religious grounds by the Torah. Its monstrous insensitivity to the laws of basic decency and fairness appall all men be they Jewish or not....

We are saddened day in and day out at the terrible toll of death emanating from the Holy Land. Not one of them would have occurred if Zionism had not unleashed its evil energies upon the world.

As Jews we are called upon to live in peace and harmony with all men. We are exhorted to be law abiding and patriotic citizens in all lands....

Cutting and pasting from NK as usual.

Don't quit your day job as Koran polisher.

 

[rylah]

..."Judaism is the belief in revelation at Sinai. It is the belief that exile is a punishment for Jewish sins."...

You deny this as fact?

Don't forget that:

Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah. It affirms Divine Providence and, accordingly, views Jewish exile as a punishment for sin. Redemption may be achieved solely through prayer and penance. Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens.

Zionism rejects the Creator, His Revelation and reward and punishment. Among its fruits are the persecution of the Palestinian people and the spiritual and physical endangering of the Jewish people. It encourages treasonous, dual loyalty among unsuspecting Jews throughout the world. At its root Zionism sees reality as barren and desacralized. It is the antithesis of Torah Judaism.

What is Zionism? Judaism versus Zionism

Don't forget that You have NOTHING, and remember that Zionism is 2,521 years old

"כל המהלך ארבע אמות בארץ ישראל מובטח לו שהוא בן העולם הבא"
תלמוד בבלי, מסכת כתובות, דף קי"א, עמוד א'.


"Each one who walks 4 steps in Eretz Israel is promised to be of the World to Come"
Babylonian Talmud, Ketuvot 111, 1

 

[rylah]

We can even talk about how Quran supports Zionism


"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'"
[Qur'an 17:104]

 

[ForeverYoung436]

..."Judaism is the belief in revelation at Sinai. It is the belief that exile is a punishment for Jewish sins."...

You deny this as fact?

Don't forget that:

Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah. It affirms Divine Providence and, accordingly, views Jewish exile as a punishment for sin. Redemption may be achieved solely through prayer and penance. Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens.

Zionism rejects the Creator, His Revelation and reward and punishment. Among its fruits are the persecution of the Palestinian people and the spiritual and physical endangering of the Jewish people. It encourages treasonous, dual loyalty among unsuspecting Jews throughout the world. At its root Zionism sees reality as barren and desacralized. It is the antithesis of Torah Judaism.

What is Zionism? Judaism versus Zionism

Don't forget that You have NOTHING, and remember that Zionism is 2,521 years old

"כל המהלך ארבע אמות בארץ ישראל מובטח לו שהוא בן העולם הבא"
תלמוד בבלי, מסכת כתובות, דף קי"א, עמוד א'.


"Each one who walks 4 steps in Eretz Israel is promised to be of the World to Come"
Babylonian Talmud, Ketuvot 111, 1

There is another quote, possibly from the Talmud, that someone who does not live in Israel is as if he has no G-d.

 

[louie888]

Wow, who would of thought you could fill a damn stadium with Jews opposed to Israel? I did, because zionism is the antithesis of Judaism.

And fwiw, and for those who think that NK does not reflect traditional judaism, this is way bigger than NK.

 

[Votto]

I hope this helps clear up the confusion.

Over 10,000 Orthodox Jews protesting the existence of the state of Israel, and the recent beating of Orthodox Jews who protested in Israel against the uprooting of Jewish cemeteries of antiquity which was done in order to enable the construction of a highway #6, near Haifa, Israel – protest in front of the Israeli consulate New York City, Thursday, April 28, 2005

10,000 Demonstrate in NYC Against Israel on April 28, 2005

I wonder how many Jews voted for Hitler.

 

[Challenger]

I hope this helps clear up the confusion.

Over 10,000 Orthodox Jews protesting the existence of the state of Israel, and the recent beating of Orthodox Jews who protested in Israel against the uprooting of Jewish cemeteries of antiquity which was done in order to enable the construction of a highway #6, near Haifa, Israel – protest in front of the Israeli consulate New York City, Thursday, April 28, 2005

10,000 Demonstrate in NYC Against Israel on April 28, 2005

I wonder how many Jews voted for Hitler.

More than you might think...Association of German National Jews - Wikipedia

 

[Votto]

I hope this helps clear up the confusion.

Over 10,000 Orthodox Jews protesting the existence of the state of Israel, and the recent beating of Orthodox Jews who protested in Israel against the uprooting of Jewish cemeteries of antiquity which was done in order to enable the construction of a highway #6, near Haifa, Israel – protest in front of the Israeli consulate New York City, Thursday, April 28, 2005

10,000 Demonstrate in NYC Against Israel on April 28, 2005

I wonder how many Jews voted for Hitler.

More than you might think...Association of German National Jews - Wikipedia

The seemingly ironic fact that a Jewish association advocated loyalty to the Nazi programme gave rise to a contemporary joke about Naumann and his followers ending their meeting by giving the Nazi salute and shouting "Down With Us!".

Hilarious!

 

[Roudy]

Wow, who would of thought you could fill a damn stadium with Jews opposed to Israel? I did, because zionism is the antithesis of Judaism.

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And fwiw, and for those who think that NK does not reflect traditional judaism, this is way bigger than NK.

And? That still doesn't change the numbers in comparison to world Jewry. They are a cult with warped interpretation which 99.9 % of Jews disagree with. In other words you are once again spouting meaningless gibberish

Here's a Christian cult that 99.9% of Christians disagreed with:

Jonestown

The Peoples Temple was formed in Indianapolis, Indiana, in 1955. Though its roots and teachings shared more with biblical church and Christian revival movements than with Marxism, it purported to practice what it called "apostolic socialism".

 

[louie888]

And? That still doesn't change the numbers in comparison to world Jewry. They are a cult with warped interpretation which 99.9 % of Jews disagree with.

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You are full of crap as usual. The vast majority of Jews do NOT live in israel. In fact, most Jews won't even visit.

 

[Roudy]

And? That still doesn't change the numbers in comparison to world Jewry. They are a cult with warped interpretation which 99.9 % of Jews disagree with.

cloudy

You are full of crap as usual. The vast majority of Jews do NOT live in israel. In fact, most Jews won't even visit.

Fact is, dufus, neither does this cult NK live in Israel! So what is your point again?

What would you know about Jews, Achmed, almost every Jew I know supports and has visited Israel numerous times. There is even a Birthright program that sends young Jews to Israel when they turn a certain age. That is because Zionism is an integral part of the Jewish faith. You are having a major hissyfit trying to deal with the truth and reality.

Birthright Israel
Taglit-Birthright Israel (Hebrew: תגלית‎‎), also known as Birthright Israel or simply Birthright, is a not-for-profit educational organization that sponsors free ten-day heritage trips to Israel for young adults of Jewish heritage, aged 18–26.

Taglit is the Hebrew word for discovery.During their trip, participants, most of whom are visiting Israel for the first time, are encouraged to discover new meaning in their personal Jewish identityand connection to Jewish history and culture.

Since trips began in the winter of 1999, more than 500,000 young people from 64 countries have participated in the program. About 80% of participants are from the United States and Canada.

 

[louie888]

And? That still doesn't change the numbers in comparison to world Jewry. They are a cult with warped interpretation which 99.9 % of Jews disagree with.

I showed this was a lie as the vast majority of Jews do not live in israel and even with their stupid birthright israel program, most Jews have never gone.

Why the hell would they? The modern terrorist state of israel has nothing to do with Judaism.

 

[Roudy]

And? That still doesn't change the numbers in comparison to world Jewry. They are a cult with warped interpretation which 99.9 % of Jews disagree with.

I showed this was a lie as the vast majority of Jews do not live in israel and even with their stupid birthright israel program, most Jews have never gone.

Why the hell would they? The modern terrorist state of israel has nothing to do with Judaism.

What are you babbling now? NK is a cult based in US that comprises a fraction of 1% of world Jewry. They are a small cult that is laughed at.

Israel has the largest concentration and population of the 15 million Jews in the world today, followed by the US. I'd say sending half a million young American Jews to Israel in the Birthright program (40,000 per year!) which does not include other Jews who go there regularly, as well as the millions of American Christians who visit and support Israel on a yearly basis, says you're full of shit.

In other words 99.9% of Jews and majority of US Christians today support Israel, and that is because they see Zionism an integral and inseparable part of the Jewish / Christian faith.

 

[louie888]

Less than 1/2 of those who call themselves Jews live in israel. They are the minority. But simple math is not even taught at your temple.

And this is way bigger than NK...

 

[Roudy]

Less than 1/2 of those who call themselves Jews live in israel. They are the minority. But simple math is not even taught at your temple.

And this is way bigger than NK...

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What is your point? That is the gathering of the NK cult in the US.

You can fill thousands of stadiums like that with Jews that do support Israel. Here's the AIPAC meeting in 2017 packed with Jews and supporters of Israel, at the highest levels of society and govt. Deal with it!