Zone1 Jesus said that the "gates of Hell" will not prevail against his church, what does that mean to you?

[BreezeWood]

" the icon" Jesus speaking}

there in lies your flaw, jesus never said those words - its being said by the crucifiers that wrote the c-bible.

 

[Clyde 154]

there in lies your flaw, jesus never said those words - its being said by the crucifiers that wrote the c-bible.

There is YOUR FLAW.....................What? Did the Romans write the N.T.? All the scriptures of the N.T. are being spoken by Jesus Christ as directed from His seat on King David's throne in Heaven. (Acts 2). The Word of God is the Sword of the Holy Spirit (Eph. 6:17). The Word is to be used to calibrate Truth this weeds out all the false doctrine such as you are propagating. The Word of God has existed over a 3500 year period, and is yet to be broken. Its still the best selling work of historical literature on the planet.

Proof: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God..........profitable for Doctrine, Teaching, Instruction, making the man of God complete/perfect with all that is necessary for all good works" -- 2 Tim. 3:16-17

Jesus declared that He would send a comforter to His disciples.....i.e, the Holy Spirit of Truth that would teach them as directed from Heaven. Jesus declared His word would not only judge everyone on judgement day (John 12:48) but His Words would last forever until the end of time (Matthew 24:35). His Words still exist, "Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away."

Thus.........all scripture represents THE WORDS OF JESUS CHRIST. "But, the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, WHOM THE FATHER WILL SEND "IN MY (JESUS') NAME" will teach you ALL THINGS, and bring back remembrance, WHATSOEVER I HAVE SAID UNTO YOU........" -- John 14:26

All the words of the N.T. (not just the red letter words from the King James translation) are the words of Jesus Christ (God incarnate -- John 1) If its found in any of the N.T. epistles its the words of God/Jesus Christ.

"When the Spirit of Truth comes, He will guide you into all the truth, FOR HE WILL NOT SPEAK ON HIS OWN AUTHORITY, BUT WHATEVER HE HEARS, HE WILL SPEAK, AND HE WILL DECLARE TO YOU THE THINGS THAT ARE TO COME........." -- John 16:13

 

[kjw47]

What, nobody realize the punchline of the Roman joke?
John 10 :9 {Rome's created image of a man " the icon" Jesus speaking} I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. But his kingdom was not of this earth, it was in death, so he claims to be the gate keeper of Hades.
Thus the whole world is deceived.
Rev 9:1 the fallen star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. Note; Jesus is the one admitting to having this Key to the abyss in Revelation 1:18 He’s also always saying salvation is in death and we see his proud proclaimation of being the gate keeper of death

Jesus is the gate to entering Gods kingdom. You have it twisted.

 

[BreezeWood]

There is YOUR FLAW.....................What? Did the Romans write the N.T.?

well, yes - the romans during the time of jesus were the christians that emerged in the 4th century to write the christian bible -

not those that gave their lives with jesus who stood for liberation theology, self determination the religion of antiquity that is no where found in the 4th century christian bible.

 

[HaShev]

Jesus is the gate to entering Gods kingdom. You have it twisted.

NO you are supposed to be a J.W. which believes the Kingdom is in life not in death. All the many cult leaders brought their followers to death, none came back to a paradise in life built via their works and deeds a paradise reward that benefits from their works and deeds.
TO THIS DAY: there are still Christian Hospitals, there are morgues, funeral homes, Christians buying life insurance, Christian cemeteries, why? BECAUSE THEY DIE TO THE DUST OF THIS EARTH and that promise by the serpent to believe in his tree, you'd be eternal, well that eternity is in death. They are teaching Greek death cultism of Hades and Egyptian underworld, but not the
Olam Habah.

 

[kjw47]

NO you are supposed to be a J.W. which believes the Kingdom is in life not in death. All the many cult leaders brought their followers to death, none came back to a paradise in life built via their works and deeds a paradise reward that benefits from their works and deeds.
TO THIS DAY: there are still Christian Hospitals, there are morgues, funeral homes, Christians buying life insurance, Christian cemeteries, why? BECAUSE THEY DIE TO THE DUST OF THIS EARTH and that promise by the serpent to believe in his tree, you'd be eternal, well that eternity is in death. They are teaching Greek death cultism of Hades and Egyptian underworld, but not the
Olam Habah.

Gods kingdom rule will come here with full control of the earth and its inhabitants at Rev 19:11-This has not occurred yet, nor has rev 20,21,or 22 occurred yet, Rev 16 has not occurred yet. Rev 20 is where death is destroyed-20:14
Jesus however did sit on the throne in heaven( Rev 6:2) this occurred in 1914 according to the prophecy in Daniel 4. Gods kingdom rules heaven fully because Rev 6:1 was the war in heaven and satan and his angels were booted down to the earth, never allowed back in heaven. Few on earth today adhere to that kingdom rule. 99% are being mislead.

 

[Clyde 154]

Gods kingdom rule will come here with full control of the earth and its inhabitants at Rev 19:11-This has not occurred yet, nor has rev 20,21,or 22 occurred yet, Rev 16 has not occurred yet. Rev 20 is where death is destroyed-20:14
Jesus however did sit on the throne in heaven( Rev 6:2) this occurred in 1914 according to the prophecy in Daniel 4. Gods kingdom rules heaven fully because Rev 6:1 was the war in heaven and satan and his angels were booted down to the earth, never allowed back in heaven. Few on earth today adhere to that kingdom rule. 99% are being mislead.

God's Kingdom is here, its been here for over 2000 years. (Acts 2) You should attempt to be translated into the kingdom of God. But....it appears that you are looking for a physical kingdom instead of the Spiritual Kingdom described by the Christ that resides in your heart. Clearly your cult propagates a doctrine for the willful BLIND.........maybe a seeing eye dog might help?

Jesus stated that His Kingdom.......is not of this world (John 18:36)

"The Kingdom of God shall come without observation....Neither shall they say, Lo here! or Lo there! for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you." -- Luke 17:20-21

The kingdom must already be in existence as the scriptures declare that when Jesus comes back.......the Trumpet will sound (1 Cor. 15:52) and ALL EYES SHALL SEE HIM.. --(Rev. 1:7) JUST HOW DOES THAT WORK? Your cult claims that the kingdom is yet to come because your have not seen it yet......but the scriptures declare the Kingdom of God will come without OBSERVATION

If the kingdom of God does not yet exist, how can anyone be translated into a kingdom that does not exist? "Giving thanks unto the Father, which has made us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints of light. Who has delivered us (already delivered, not WILL DELIVER US) from the power of darkness, and has translated us INTO THE KINGDOM OF HIS DEAR SON." -- Col. 1:12-13

The Holy Scriptures declare that the Kingdom of God has existed since the day of Pentecost after the ascension of Jesus Christ (Acts 1: 9-11) to heaven in order to sit on the throne of His Kingdom which fulfills the prophecy concerning Jesus ruling on David's throne as promised by the Father. (Acts 2).

Peter announced to the world that David the prophet and king of Israel had said that God, "....would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne..." -- Acts 2:30 ...........and "therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified both LORD (ruler) and CHRIST (savior/messiah)." -- Acts 2:34

Jesus is currently sitting on the throne of the Kingdom of God.........as King and High Priest of the faith.

 

[kjw47]

God's Kingdom is here, its been here for over 2000 years. (Acts 2) You should attempt to be translated into the kingdom of God. But....it appears that you are looking for a physical kingdom instead of the Spiritual Kingdom described by the Christ that resides in your heart. Clearly your cult propagates a doctrine for the willful BLIND.........maybe a seeing eye dog might help?

Jesus stated that His Kingdom.......is not of this world (John 18:36)

"The Kingdom of God shall come without observation....Neither shall they say, Lo here! or Lo there! for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you." -- Luke 17:20-21

The kingdom must already be in existence as the scriptures declare that when Jesus comes back.......the Trumpet will sound (1 Cor. 15:52) and ALL EYES SHALL SEE HIM.. --(Rev. 1:7) JUST HOW DOES THAT WORK? Your cult claims that the kingdom is yet to come because your have not seen it yet......but the scriptures declare the Kingdom of God will come without OBSERVATION

If the kingdom of God does not yet exist, how can anyone be translated into a kingdom that does not exist? "Giving thanks unto the Father, which has made us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints of light. Who has delivered us (already delivered, not WILL DELIVER US) from the power of darkness, and has translated us INTO THE KINGDOM OF HIS DEAR SON." -- Col. 1:12-13

The Holy Scriptures declare that the Kingdom of God has existed since the day of Pentecost after the ascension of Jesus Christ (Acts 1: 9-11) to heaven in order to sit on the throne of His Kingdom which fulfills the prophecy concerning Jesus ruling on David's throne as promised by the Father. (Acts 2).

Peter announced to the world that David the prophet and king of Israel had said that God, "....would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne..." -- Acts 2:30 ...........and "therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified both LORD (ruler) and CHRIST (savior/messiah)." -- Acts 2:34

Jesus is currently sitting on the throne of the Kingdom of God.........as King and High Priest of the faith.

And the prophecy of Daniel 4 says Jesus got his crown in 1914. 2520 days until a king sat on the throne from 607 bce when Jerusalem was destroyed-- Jesus came 607 years after that event, no king sat on the throne until Jesus did. So the bible rule a year for a day is applied to the prophecy in Daniel 4=607bce+ 2520=1914--Rev 6:2-He receives his crown. Rev 6:4-Peace will be taken from the earth=not a single war but a world war=ww1 backing that prophecy as true.

 

[Clyde 154]

And the prophecy of Daniel 4 says Jesus got his crown in 1914. 2520 days until a king sat on the throne from 607 bce when Jerusalem was destroyed-- Jesus came 607 years after that event, no king sat on the throne until Jesus did. So the bible rule a year for a day is applied to the prophecy in Daniel 4=607bce+ 2520=1914--Rev 6:2-He receives his crown. Rev 6:4-Peace will be taken from the earth=not a single war but a world war=ww1 backing that prophecy as true.

LMAO. Is anyone supposed to believe your cults prophecies after 8 documented failures? Failed date predictions of Jehovah's Witnesses





I prefer to believe in the word of God and its truth. FYI: The "last days" began over 2000 years as recorded in the Holy Scriptures. "......these are the last days spoken of by the prophet Joel......." -- Acts 2:16-17. Peter was speaking of the LAST DAYS in the 1st century. The Last Days simply means this is the last covenant/contract between man and God, this covenant of grace will last until the end of time itself.........when that day of judgment comes, once Jesus defeats death.......the kingdom of God/church constructed by Jesus Christ will be returned to the Father after Jesus collects His bride.....the church, then the Bride and Jesus will abide forever in the spiritual realm of heaven within Spiritual Jerusalem. -- 1 Cor. 15, Gal. 4:26



God no longer speaks through PROPHETS, "God who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers (ancestors) by the prophets, HAS IN THESE LAST DAYS SPOKEN TO US BY HIS SON (Jesus Christ), whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds." -- Heb. 1:1-2

Truth exists only through the words of Jesus Christ, "And the Word became flesh (Jesus Christ is the Word) and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory of the only begotten of the Father (God), FULL OF GRACE AND TRUTH." -- John 1:14

We no longer require prophecies as we have everything required to make the Man of God perfectly equipped for ALL GOOD WOKS, "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF (testing false prophets, such as exists within your cult), for CORRECTION, for INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS, that the Man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." -- 2 Tim. 3:16-17

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Our Lord and Savior did not foresee the rise of modern-day evangelicalism, Pentecostalism, or fundamentalism.

 

[frigidweirdo]

What is the purpose of Jesus's church and will his church be partially or fully successful? I believe the purpose of Jesus's church is to bring ALL to God. I also believe that Jesus was telling us that Satan will be unable to prevent Jesus from saving ALL!

In spite of Jesus's statement that Hell will not prevail, mainstream Christianity teaches that Jesus is wrong and that his mission to save all will FAIL.

What do you believe? Do you believe Jesus or do you believe mainstream Christian theology?

Means that if people pick up the gates of hell and throw them at you, they won't win. The fences of hell might, but not the gates.

 

[kjw47]

LMAO. Is anyone supposed to believe your cults prophecies after 8 documented failures? Failed date predictions of Jehovah's Witnesses





I prefer to believe in the word of God and its truth. FYI: The "last days" began over 2000 years as recorded in the Holy Scriptures. "......these are the last days spoken of by the prophet Joel......." -- Acts 2:16-17.



God no longer speaks through PROPHETS, "God who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers (ancestors) by the prophets, HAS IN THESE LAST DAYS SPOKEN TO US BY HIS SON (Jesus Christ), whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds." -- Heb. 1:1-2

Truth exists only through the words of Jesus Christ, "And the Word became flesh (Jesus Christ is the Word) and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory of the only begotten of the Father (God), FULL OF GRACE AND TRUTH." -- John 1:14

We no longer require prophecies as we have everything required to make the Man of God perfectly equipped for ALL GOOD WOKS, "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF (testing false prophets, such as exists within your cult), for CORRECTION, for INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS, that the Man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." -- 2 Tim. 3:16-17

Errors not prophecies. Yet in 1879 C.T.Russell said because of that Daniel prophecy--Peace will be taken from the earth in 1914. He was correct. He did err in thinking Rev 6:1 white horse was this ride-Rev 19:11, but it was the war in heaven not Armageddon.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And the above is why the theologians are not in charge of America.

 

[Clyde 154]

Our Lord and Savior did not foresee the rise of modern-day evangelicalism, Pentecostalism, or fundamentalism.

So...........God did not accomplish His plan that was established before the worlds were formed or time itself began? God is a failure, and this failure is supposed to be worshiped?

The God that I worship.........does not fail. -- 1 Cron. 28:20, Joshua 1:8-9, Ps. 89:28, Isa. 51:6, Isa. 55:10-11

1 Peter 1:20, "He (Jesus) was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for your sake." Before the world was created God had a plan to save mankind from itself through the birth, life, death and resurrection of Christ Jesus.

Or as Paul declares.......before time itself began 2 Tim. 1:9, "Who (God) saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of His own purpose and grace, which He (God) gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began."

 

[Clyde 154]

Errors not prophecies. Yet in 1879 C.T.Russell said because of that Daniel prophecy--Peace will be taken from the earth in 1914. He was correct. He did err in thinking Rev 6:1 white horse was this ride-Rev 19:11, but it was the war in heaven not Armageddon.

So........the Book, Chapter and Verse presented do not exist in the Word of God that proves your cult as false prophets?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So...........God did not accomplish His plan that was established before the worlds were formed or time itself began? God is a failure, and this failure is supposed to be worshiped?

The God that I worship.........does not fail. -- 1 Cron. 28:20, Joshua 1:8-9, Ps. 89:28, Isa. 51:6, Isa. 55:10-11

1 Peter 1:20, "He (Jesus) was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for your sake." Before the world was created God had a plan to save mankind from itself through the birth, life, death and resurrection of Christ Jesus.

Or as Paul declares.......before time itself began 2 Tim. 1:9, "Who (God) saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of His own purpose and grace, which He (God) gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began."

That's your plan, false Christian, not that of Our Lord and Savior.

You are the failure, friend, not Christ Jesus.

 

[kjw47]

So........the Book, Chapter and Verse presented do not exist in the Word of God that proves your cult as false prophets?

They arent prophets at all.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The most heretical denominations are the evangelicals, fundamentalists, and Pentecostals. Bad, bad theology,

 

[kjw47]

The most heretical denominations are the evangelicals, fundamentalists, and Pentecostals. Bad, bad theology,

All trinity based religions are in the same boat--up the creek without a paddle.

 

[kjw47]

Our Lord and Savior did not foresee the rise of modern-day evangelicalism, Pentecostalism, or fundamentalism.

Yes he did-2Thess 2:3 was foretold=Catholicism and 98% of all other religions claiming to be christian.