Zone1 Jesus said that the "gates of Hell" will not prevail against his church, what does that mean to you?

[BreezeWood]

Jesus is the head of his 1 true religion on earth, lead by these-Matt 24:45

sorry, jesus did not write the christian bible, nor is known to have left a single note for any of those authors to signify anything special jesus contributed than the original heavenly religion of antiquity they died for - the same as verified by the previous events during the time of noah.

the triumph of good vs evil - to attain judgement for admission to the everlasting.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus is the head of his 1 true religion on earth, lead by these-Matt 24:45

you can't be serious ...

A servant who faithfully does the will of his master, even when the master is away, pleases the master and demonstrates that he is capable and worthy of greater responsibilities. Jesus underscores this point.

wo unto those who live in sin - could it be the crucifiers have captured your soul.

 

[kjw47]

sorry, jesus did not write the christian bible, nor is known to have left a single note for any of those authors to signify anything special jesus contributed than the original heavenly religion of antiquity they died for - the same as verified by the previous events during the time of noah.

the triumph of good vs evil - to attain judgement for admission to the everlasting.

All scripture is inspired of God. 2 Tim 3:16-- You are blinded by satan-2Cor 4:4

 

[kjw47]

you can't be serious ...



wo unto those who live in sin - could it be the crucifiers have captured your soul.

I shared bible truth. Those who stand in opposition to Gods inspired words= antichrist.

 

[1miseryindex]

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LOL

That is awesome. I have had the same thought, just didn't articulate it as well as the great St Augustine

 

[kjw47]

you can't be serious ...



wo unto those who live in sin - could it be the crucifiers have captured your soul.

Do you know what sin is--Many terrible sins are made to look good to the mortal heart, like this-2Cor 11:12-15

 

[The Irish Ram]

That is a good question K9Buck. And there really isn't concrete proof that He won't save all. But the Bible doesn't support the fact that all will be saved. We have a clear view of Hell, from Luke 16. And a lot of info on the White Throne Judgement. There is no condemnation in Christians, the only judgment in their future is the BEMA judgement for crowns. The rest will show up in court at the White Throne. It doesn't say that any of the people that disregarded Christ being the only way to the Father, are forgiven.
And yet they will be judged by the most gentle and loving creature alive, and man has changed God's mind before, so we will have to wait until we get there to find out.

 

[BreezeWood]

Do you know what sin is--Many terrible sins are made to look good to the mortal heart, like this-2Cor 11:12-15

many ways what you profess does not exist, sin -

what jesus taught and those that gave their lives in the 1st century did so to triumph over evil, the heavenly religion of antiquity - nothing to do w/ madeup sins used to persecute and victimize the innocent by the desert religions, their written bibles.

 

[kjw47]

many ways what you profess does not exist, sin -

what jesus taught and those that gave their lives in the 1st century did so to triumph over evil, the heavenly religion of antiquity - nothing to do w/ madeup sins used to persecute and victimize the innocent by the desert religions, their written bibles.

Not wise to call God a liar.

 

[BreezeWood]

Not wise to call God a liar.

that is those that read and profess the christian bible, written by the crucifiers - who use their victims name, jesus for their own nefarious agenda of servitude and denial ...

than the opposite of the 1st century events - liberation theology, self determination - the repudiation of judaism and the liar moses taught by jesus and those that gave their lives for the true religion of antiquity.

 

[kjw47]

that is those that read and profess the christian bible, written by the crucifiers - who use their victims name, jesus for their own nefarious agenda of servitude and denial ...

than the opposite of the 1st century events - liberation theology, self determination - the repudiation of judaism and the liar moses taught by jesus and those that gave their lives for the true religion of antiquity.

The bible writers completed the bible in 96 ce, no crucifers existed yet.

 

[BreezeWood]

The bible writers completed the bible in 96 ce, no crucifers existed yet.

oh ...



haven't you heard that was written in the 4th century ... the christian bible.

Christianity in the 4th century was dominated in its early stage by Constantine the great and the First Council of Nicaea of 325, which was the beginning of the period of the First seven Ecumenical Councils (325–787), and in its late stage by the Edict of Thessalonica of 380, which made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire.

- without an appendix for the material used or an archive for the same purpose as rather their claim of inspiration - after not only jesus, all those others during that time the 1st century they fed to the lions till early 4th century when all was clear they began writing their book in jesus's name and spent near 100 years to write till the final version ... the state religion of the roman empire - christianity.

now you know ...

 

[kjw47]

oh ...



haven't you heard that was written in the 4th century ... the christian bible.



- without an appendix for the material used or an archive for the same purpose as rather their claim of inspiration - after not only jesus, all those others during that time the 1st century they fed to the lions till early 4th century when all was clear they began writing their book in jesus's name and spent near 100 years to write till the final version ... the state religion of the roman empire - christianity.

now you know ...

Jerome translated from originals in the 300,s to the Latin vulgate. Originals finished by 96 ce. This is undeniable fact.

 

[luiza]

As he did not want a Church -- as in an organised religion -- I suggest such words were never said .

Effectively just another senseless and contrived matter . Prefer the one about how many Angels can stand on a pin head at any one time .
All so boring . imho .

 

[BreezeWood]

Jerome translated from originals in the 300,s to the Latin vulgate. Originals finished by 96 ce. This is undeniable fact.

and your claim, you have those originals - and the 4th century c-bible does not exist, funny how you quote it as being something you have read.

and have a good day as well.

 

[kjw47]

and your claim, you have those originals - and the 4th century c-bible does not exist, funny how you quote it as being something you have read.

and have a good day as well.

Catholicism put the books together( NT) that were written by 96 ce and made a bible out of those books. They added certain books that did not belong. But they did not write the bible. God inspired righteous men to write his words down. They did however by satans will remove Gods name( an atrocity) and translated subtle errors in to fit their false council teachings. Only false religions claiming to be christian use translations with the removal of Gods name.( over 7000 places) That gives support to satans will over Gods will. Truly satan is blinding mortals-2Cor 4:4-like this-2Cor 11:12-15

 

[HaShev]

What, nobody realize the punchline of the Roman joke?
John 10 :9 {Rome's created image of a man " the icon" Jesus speaking} I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. But his kingdom was not of this earth, it was in death, so he claims to be the gate keeper of Hades.
Thus the whole world is deceived.
Rev 9:1 the fallen star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. Note; Jesus is the one admitting to having this Key to the abyss in Revelation 1:18 He’s also always saying salvation is in death and we see his proud proclaimation of being the gate keeper of death

 

[Clyde 154]

What is the purpose of Jesus's church and will his church be partially or fully successful? I believe the purpose of Jesus's church is to bring ALL to God. I also believe that Jesus was telling us that Satan will be unable to prevent Jesus from saving ALL!

In spite of Jesus's statement that Hell will not prevail, mainstream Christianity teaches that Jesus is wrong and that his mission to save all will FAIL.

What do you believe? Do you believe Jesus or do you believe mainstream Christian theology?

The correct translation found in Matthew 16:18 does not indicate that Jesus is speaking of Hell..........the everlasting pit of fire reserved for Satan and his disciples (Rev. 20:13-15). Its clear by the content of Matthew 16 that Jesus is speaking of the GRAVE.......or HADES, the resting place of all the dead awaiting final judgement as described in (Luke 16). The mission of Jesus Christ was to DEFEATE DEATH as explained in (1 Cor. 15:1-58)

There is a great deal of difference between Hades and Hell. Some attempt to declare that both hold the same meaning but the scriptures declare a great deal of difference.

Hell is reserved for the final judgment, while the grave or "hades" collects human spirits every day as explained by Jesus in Luke 16. As explained there are 2 different compartments found in the Spiritual Realm of Hades. 1 for those who lived a righteous life.......the other for the wicked. The compartment where the righteous spirits are sent was called "paradise" (Luke 16 describes it as being in bosom of Abraham) when Jesus forgave the sins of the thief on the cross (Luke 23:32-43, written by the same author that recorded Luke 16 in describing Hades)...........Jesus spent 3 days in the grave with His Spirit being transported to Hades to preach to the dead........Jesus was resurrected after 3 days in the grave or hades.....the thief is steal in the compartment of Hades referred to as Paradise by Jesus (1 Peter 3:18-20). Jesus body never saw corruption.......Jesus' spirit went to hades to preach to the dead, as the blood of Christ flows backwards as well as forward.

 

[Mashmont]

What is the purpose of Jesus's church and will his church be partially or fully successful? I believe the purpose of Jesus's church is to bring ALL to God. I also believe that Jesus was telling us that Satan will be unable to prevent Jesus from saving ALL!

In spite of Jesus's statement that Hell will not prevail, mainstream Christianity teaches that Jesus is wrong and that his mission to save all will FAIL.

What do you believe? Do you believe Jesus or do you believe mainstream Christian theology?

Jesus, Himself said more will not make it to Heaven than will. You have to be locked in to make it. It's not happening for the lukewarm.

 

[Clyde 154]

Jesus, Himself said more will not make it to Heaven than will. You have to be locked in to make it. It's not happening for the lukewarm.

Its all about "worshiping" in Spirit and Truth. Where is Christian Truth located? The Word of God. We are to be "sanctified" by the Word of God (John 4:24, John 17:17)

"If" you follow the word of God and use it as doctrine..........you will possess the sufficient information required to find eternal salvation (2 Tim. 3:16-17). The word of God will direct you unto all good works of righteousness.