montelatici, et al,
You are trying to make a connections in order to make the law fit your agenda.
Today there are African Jews, Japanese Jews, even Eskimo Jews. (By Tzvi Freeman)
(COMMENT)
To this point, we've discussed the implications of the the Rome Statutes and the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 30 November 1973. Now we are working on the distinction made by the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD).
As our friend "montelatici" points out, the 1965 CERD stipulates several factors:
Jewishness is NOT based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin. Nor does race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin disqualify a person from being Jewish.
Most Respectfully,
R
You are trying to make a connections in order to make the law fit your agenda.
(OBSERVATION)montelatici, et al,
A non-Jew is not a separate race. The "apartheid laws" are about the discriminatory law pertaining to separate racial groups.
(COMMENT)-Within Israel, there is no discriminatory laws that lend advantage or penalize Jewish citizens of varying races.
We are talking about non-Jews Rocco, get with the program.
Of course the granting of citizenship or immigration rights based on being Jewish lends advantage to those who are Jewish.
Having laws that prevent non-Jews from buying/leasing land reserved to only Jews is also discriminatory.
Quit tap dancing Rocco, you are making a fool of yourself.
There are no laws in Israel that lend advantage or penalize the difference between a Caucasian Jew and a Black Jew. If there were, then that would be the defining characteristic that could lead to "apartheid." But, in fact, I find no distinction between the laws in Israel that distinguish the difference between races.
The laws that pertain the Jewish are the same for each race --- Black or Caucasian. The laws that pertain to non-Jews are the same, Black or Caucasian. The "Apartheid Laws" are in place to prevent the discrimination against "a racial group or groups from participation" in otherwise lawful activities enjoyed by all citizens. (Non-Jew is not a race.)
Read the law.
Most Respectfully,
R
You should do your homework before posting nonsense. You continue demonstrating your ignorance of the subject matter Rocco. As they say ""Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
The operative definition of "racial identity" is provided in the 1965 International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (which Israel signed), on which the apartheid convention explicitly draws.
"racial discrimination" is defined as "any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life."
International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination
Today there are African Jews, Japanese Jews, even Eskimo Jews. (By Tzvi Freeman)
(COMMENT)
- [Jews] are not an ethnic group, the Jews of Morrocco would not recognize the ethnicity of the Jews of Russia.
- [Jews] are not a culture, the Jews of Yemen would not recognize the culture of the Jews from Mexico.
- The Jews of Yemen, Morrocco, Mexico, and Russia are all Jews because they share the same religion [belief]. (By sfederow)
To this point, we've discussed the implications of the the Rome Statutes and the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. 30 November 1973. Now we are working on the distinction made by the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD).
As our friend "montelatici" points out, the 1965 CERD stipulates several factors:
- Color:
- Jewishness is color immaterial...
- There are both Jews and non-Jews of the same color.
- There are Black Jews and there are Black non-Jews.
- There are Caucasian Jews and there are Caucasian non-Jews.
- There are both Jews and non-Jews of the same color.
- Jewishness is color immaterial...
- Descent:
- Jewishness is not based on a specific derivation from an ancestral group, or lineage...
- The Jewish Community in Kobe and Toyko Japan are probably not in the same linage as descendants of one of the lost tribes of Israel.
- Jewishness is not based on a specific derivation from an ancestral group, or lineage...
- National or Ethnic origin:
- The North African Jews of Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Sudan and Egypt are of a different ethnic origin than the South African Jews, who are mostly Ashkenazi Jews descended from pre-and post-Holocaust immigrant Lithuanian Jews.
- Race:
- Jewishness transcends all four Race Groups:
- Caucasian
- Mongoloid
- Negroid
- Austroloid
- Jewishness transcends all four Race Groups:
Jewishness is NOT based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin. Nor does race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin disqualify a person from being Jewish.
Most Respectfully,
R
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