Calling Israel apartheid and genocidal is antisemitic hate speech

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I have made similar posts about this in the past. Israel is time and again referred to as an apartheid and genocidal state. These are flat out lies.

Here are 10 reasons Israel is not an apartheid state, from a Left wing news source.


And lastly, saying that the people of Gaza are suffering from a genocide conducted by Israel is a slap in the face to every person on earth who has ever experienced genocide.

Do people suffering from genocide march around with weapons chanting death to their adversary as they launch attacks and rockets against them and then take hundreds of them hostage? What group suffering from genocide is constantly funded with arms and weapons and money from another state like Iran?

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Does this look like systematic genocide?

Or does this?

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Everyone who makes such false claims that are hateful and adding to antisemitism should be called out.


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Criticism of the actions of the government of Israel is not anti semitism.

If you can't make a case to defend Israel's actions without this horseshit fallacy, then I guess you don't have a case.
 
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I have made similar posts about this in the past. Israel is time and again referred to as an apartheid and genocidal state. These are flat out lies.

Here are 10 reasons Israel is not an apartheid state, from a Left wing news source.


And lastly, saying that the people of Gaza are suffering from a genocide conducted by Israel is a slap in the face to every person on earth who has ever experienced genocide.

Do people suffering from genocide march around with weapons chanting death to their adversary as they launch attacks and rockets against them and then take hundreds of them hostage? What group suffering from genocide is constantly funded with arms and weapons and money from another state like Iran?

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Does this look like systematic genocide?

Or does this?

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Everyone who makes such false claims that are hateful and adding to antisemitism should be called out.


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Mixed emotions here.

You cannot have free speech and then allow only certain speech.

Libel and slander should not be allowed. Nobody should be allowed to accuse another member, even in our presumed anonymous screen names, of committing a criminal offense when the person has not committed the offense.

However reprehensible it may be to most of us, it is not illegal to support apartheid for instance, but is declared an international crime to carry it out. It is not illegal to approve of the Nazis or even be one, but is illegal to do the horrendous things the Nazis did to others. It is not illegal to approve of grooming or pedophilia but is illegal to be a groomer or do the acts that can cause irreparable harm to kids. It is not illegal to hate Jews or Muslims or Trump supporters or Democrats, etc. etc. etc. but It is illegal to carry out illegal acts against others because of who and what they are.

So, short of accusations of specific illegal activity directed at any individual, the cruel, hateful, stupid, inappropriate, juvenile, historically and/or factually incorrect insults people use in lieu of actual debate do in my opinion pretty much fall into the sticks and stones category. They reveal the shallowness and mentality of those spewing them but should not be illegal.

But the Israelis in no way are committing apartheid when they wall off people who chant death to Israel, death to the Jews, death to America or whatever to keep those people from committing horrendous deadly acts inside Israel. The U.N. made the Palestinian territories and Israel separate entities and Israel has no legal responsibility to the Palestinians or vice versa. Israel in no way separates the Arab Muslims from the rest of their society inside their own country.

Israel is definitely entitled to protect themselves from a hostile or destructive enemy just as the United States is justified in constructing a wall between themselves and millions of illegals, far too many being extremely dangerous bad actors, from Mexico or coming through Mexico.

And those who call that 'apartheid' are just broadcasting their incredible ignorance.

To accuse Israel of genocide when it fights back against an enemy sworn to wipe the Jews off the face of the Earth--an enemy who attacked them targeting and kill well over a thousand innocent Israeli citizens--is more than just incredible ignorance. It is inexplicable antisemitism taken to a whole new level.
 
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View attachment 851952

I have made similar posts about this in the past. Israel is time and again referred to as an apartheid and genocidal state. These are flat out lies.

Here are 10 reasons Israel is not an apartheid state, from a Left wing news source.


And lastly, saying that the people of Gaza are suffering from a genocide conducted by Israel is a slap in the face to every person on earth who has ever experienced genocide.

Do people suffering from genocide march around with weapons chanting death to their adversary as they launch attacks and rockets against them and then take hundreds of them hostage? What group suffering from genocide is constantly funded with arms and weapons and money from another state like Iran?

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Does this look like systematic genocide?

Or does this?

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Everyone who makes such false claims that are hateful and adding to antisemitism should be called out.


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Maybe if Israel stopped committing genocide, people would stop saying they're doing it.
 
Hey look. Well at least SA isn't accusing Israel of apartheid this time. I suppose Germany will do that.

South Africa Accuses Israel Of Committing Genocide In Gaza

South Africa’s government recalled its ambassador and diplomatic mission to Israel in condemnation of the bombardment that's killed over 10,000 Palestinians.
 
And those who call that 'apartheid' are just broadcasting their incredible ignorance.

To accuse Israel of genocide when it fights back against an enemy sworn to wipe the Jews off the face of the Earth--an enemy who attacked them targeting and kill well over a thousand innocent Israeli citizens--is more than just incredible ignorance. It is inexplicable antisemitism taken to a whole new level.
Land thieves are always sensitive about being called out over their thefts.

JOHANNESBURG (AP) — South Africa’s government has recalled Monday its ambassador and diplomatic mission to Israel in condemnation of the bombardment of the Gaza Strip, calling it a “genocide.”
The government also threatened action against the Israeli ambassador to South Africa over his recent remarks on the African country’s stance on the Israel-Hamas war. No further details were given about the remarks.
[...]
“The South African government has decided to withdraw all its diplomats in Tel Aviv for consultation,” said minister in the presidency Khumbudzo Ntshavheni. She added the cabinet noted the “disparaging remarks of the Israeli ambassador to South Africa about those who are opposing the atrocities and genocide of the Israeli government” and that the department of international relations has been instructed to “take the necessary measures within the diplomatic channels and protocols to deal with (his) conduct.”
 
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Criticism of the actions of the government of Israel is not anti semitism.
Broad spectrum accusations like "apartheid" and "genocide" are not criticism of the actions of the government of Israel. They are slurs made, largely, from ignorance and repetition of soundbites with the intention of demonizing Israel.
If you can't make a case to defend Israel's actions without this horseshit fallacy, then I guess you don't have a case.
I can, and will, make such a case. Making the case against Israel being an "apartheid" state isn't even hard, let alone against "genocide". Israeli law is applied consistently and in keeping with international standards in other states.
 
I think you are right. I think Israel is the Kyle Rittenhouse on the streets with a gun in his hand trying to maintain order as the police are instructed to "stand down" as all hell breaks out on the streets. That is what Israel was supposed to do, stand down after murderers ravaged them but they refused.

But I think there is an added irritant for the Left, and that is, the Torah. The Bible is really the #1 competing religion against the Leftist cult. As we see, Islam is easily integrated into the cult as both crave for a totalitarian government uninterested in justice in any way. Just look at any cookie cutter Islamic dictatorship. They all suck arse. Is it then any coincidence that in Revelations we see people being beheaded for not taking "the mark of the beast" to buy and sell things? Only Muslims behead people and only Jews and Christians will stand in the way of the globalists like Soros.

Jeez. The mark of the beast was Roman coin with the engraved head of Caesar.
 
Broad spectrum accusations like "apartheid" and "genocide" are not criticism of the actions of the government of Israel. They are slurs made, largely, from ignorance and repetition of soundbites with the intention of demonizing Israel.

I can, and will, make such a case. Making the case against Israel being an "apartheid" state isn't even hard, let alone against "genocide". Israeli law is applied consistently and in keeping with international standards in other states.

Israel behaves like Nazis. ..and they continue to destroy homes and olive groves.
 
Broad spectrum accusations like "apartheid" and "genocide" are not criticism of the actions of the government of Israel. They are slurs made, largely, from ignorance and repetition of soundbites with the intention of demonizing Israel.

I can, and will, make such a case. Making the case against Israel being an "apartheid" state isn't even hard, let alone against "genocide". Israeli law is applied consistently and in keeping with international standards in other states.


Even a significant number of rational and ethical American Jews call the current mass murder of Palestine's native residents genocide. (1)

Instead of learning anything from the Holocaust almost half of Israeli Jews support ethnic cleansing(2)

It's long past time for America to crate up our glut of Holocaust theme parks and dump them on the Knesset steps where they are most needed.

Thanks,



(1). “Poll finds a quarter of US Jews think Israel is ‘apartheid state’”

EXCERPTS “Also, 22% of respondents believe ‘Israel is committing genocide’; 67% say denying Jewish state’s right to exist is antisemitic

Among respondents to the survey commissioned by the Jewish Electorate Institute, a group led by prominent Jewish Democrats, 34 percent agreed that “Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is similar to racism in the United States,” 25% agreed that “Israel is an apartheid state” and 22% agreed that “Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians.”” CONTINUED



(2). “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.

A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions." CONTINUED
 
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Israel behaves like Nazis. ..and they continue to destroy homes and olive groves.
Yeah, put down one ghetto uprising, you've put down them all...
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Even a significant number of rational and ethical American Jews call the current mass murder of Palestine's native residents genocide. (1)

Instead of learning anything from the Holocaust almost half of Israeli Jews support ethnic cleansing(2)

It's long past time for America to crate up our glut of Holocaust theme parks and dump them on the Knesset steps where they are most needed.

Thanks,



(1). “Poll finds a quarter of US Jews think Israel is ‘apartheid state’”

EXCERPTS “Also, 22% of respondents believe ‘Israel is committing genocide’; 67% say denying Jewish state’s right to exist is antisemitic

Among respondents to the survey commissioned by the Jewish Electorate Institute, a group led by prominent Jewish Democrats, 34 percent agreed that “Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is similar to racism in the United States,” 25% agreed that “Israel is an apartheid state” and 22% agreed that “Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians.”” CONTINUED



(2). “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.

A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions." CONTINUED
Logical fallacies, such as the appeal to numbers, are not arguments. People believe a lot things that aren't factually true. If nothing else, your post proves my point, just trading ignorance and sound bites.
 
Land thieves are always sensitive about being called out over their thefts.

JOHANNESBURG (AP) — South Africa’s government has recalled Monday its ambassador and diplomatic mission to Israel in condemnation of the bombardment of the Gaza Strip, calling it a “genocide.”
The government also threatened action against the Israeli ambassador to South Africa over his recent remarks on the African country’s stance on the Israel-Hamas war. No further details were given about the remarks.
[...]
“The South African government has decided to withdraw all its diplomats in Tel Aviv for consultation,” said minister in the presidency Khumbudzo Ntshavheni. She added the cabinet noted the “disparaging remarks of the Israeli ambassador to South Africa about those who are opposing the atrocities and genocide of the Israeli government” and that the department of international relations has been instructed to “take the necessary measures within the diplomatic channels and protocols to deal with (his) conduct.”
Well honorable people are sensitive about numbnuts whether in the MSM or on message boards deliberately put out dishonest propaganda about land theft that never happened.
 

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