Is this an Islam thing, or a Liberia thing?...

Is this an Islam thing, or a Liberia thing?...

http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...ault23-ON.html

^The 8 Year Old Brought Shame on her Father for being Raped...

I Love Cultures that are Living in the 15th Century... In OUR Country...

peace...

It's more than an Islam thing, unfortunately. A lot of people will blame the victim in situations like this. I would go into more detail but I got slammed last time I brought up anything like this so I'm going to stay quiet. :)

I can't Imagine an American Born, Non-Islamic Father Blaming his 8 Year Old for being Raped by (4) Boys...

It's that kind of Absurdity that is Exclusive to Islam in our Century.

:)

peace...

Yeah...that's too bad.

I wish that girl well.
 
Blaming women, girls for being raped is found in many cultures. In Italy, till a few years ago, a rape was considered a crime against morals, not against the woman. I believe the laws were finally changed in the early '90s. In Sicily, a rapist could get the charges dropped if he got the victim to marry him. If she refused she would often be harrassed and shunned by the community and her family' property vandalized. A way of forcing a girl to marry you who had refused you was to kidnap her and rape her. Then the only way she could maintain the family's honor was to agree to marry you.

Misogyny is rampant in sacred texts of the Judeo -Christian religions. Who is to say if the mysogyny came first? That of the religion or the culture?
 
Blaming women, girls for being raped is found in many cultures. In Italy, till a few years ago, a rape was considered a crime against morals, not against the woman. I believe the laws were finally changed in the early '90s. In Sicily, a rapist could get the charges dropped if he got the victim to marry him. If she refused she would often be harrassed and shunned by the community and her family' property vandalized. A way of forcing a girl to marry you who had refused you was to kidnap her and rape her. Then the only way she could maintain the family's honor was to agree to marry you.

Misogyny is rampant in sacred texts of the Judeo -Christian religions. Who is to say if the mysogyny came first? That of the religion or the culture?

Go ahead and show me TODAY who, other than Islam, who Denies an 8 Year Old Daughter who has been Raped...

:)

peace...
 
where did you get the Islam connection? i can't find anything that mentions the religion of any of those involved, even when i link to your article.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...ault23-ON.html

since more liberians are christian than muslim, using your logic, you'd have to ask: Is this a Christian thing? the answer is no, in case you are wondering, you stupid baiting asshole.

Actually, you didn't get anything from his link since it's still a dead link. (not the first time for one of his posts)

Where the "islam thing" came from is the troll's OP.

From the working link that you added:

In some parts of Africa, women often are blamed for being raped for enticing men or simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Girls who are raped are often shunned by their families.

And from the CIA World Factbook:

Ethnic groups:
indigenous African 95% (including Kpelle, Bassa, Gio, Kru, Grebo, Mano, Krahn, Gola, Gbandi, Loma, Kissi, Vai, Dei, Bella, Mandingo, and Mende), Americo-Liberians 2.5% (descendants of immigrants from the US who had been slaves), Congo People 2.5% (descendants of immigrants from the Caribbean who had been slaves)

Religions:
Christian 40%, Muslim 20%, indigenous beliefs 40%

Liberia People 2009, CIA World Factbook

So... the way I see it ... it's a third world where women aren't considered any more than property thing....
 
where did you get the Islam connection? i can't find anything that mentions the religion of any of those involved, even when i link to your article.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...ault23-ON.html

since more liberians are christian than muslim, using your logic, you'd have to ask: Is this a Christian thing? the answer is no, in case you are wondering, you stupid baiting asshole.

Actually, you didn't get anything from his link since it's still a dead link. (not the first time for one of his posts)

Where the "islam thing" came from is the troll's OP.

From the working link that you added:

In some parts of Africa, women often are blamed for being raped for enticing men or simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Girls who are raped are often shunned by their families.

And from the CIA World Factbook:

Ethnic groups:
indigenous African 95% (including Kpelle, Bassa, Gio, Kru, Grebo, Mano, Krahn, Gola, Gbandi, Loma, Kissi, Vai, Dei, Bella, Mandingo, and Mende), Americo-Liberians 2.5% (descendants of immigrants from the US who had been slaves), Congo People 2.5% (descendants of immigrants from the Caribbean who had been slaves)

Religions:
Christian 40%, Muslim 20%, indigenous beliefs 40%

Liberia People 2009, CIA World Factbook

So... the way I see it ... it's a third world where women aren't considered any more than property thing....


You don't Know the Definition of the Word "Troll"...

Can you Name another Religion that would turn it's Back on an 8 Year Old Rape Victim?...

Or even Worse, Stone her?... Not that she is going to be Stoned...

And also, this was in AMERICA!... So this Shit Culture and or Religion has Infected our Soil.

:)

peace...
 
where did you get the Islam connection? i can't find anything that mentions the religion of any of those involved, even when i link to your article.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...ault23-ON.html

since more liberians are christian than muslim, using your logic, you'd have to ask: Is this a Christian thing? the answer is no, in case you are wondering, you stupid baiting asshole.

Actually, you didn't get anything from his link since it's still a dead link. (not the first time for one of his posts)

Where the "islam thing" came from is the troll's OP.

From the working link that you added:



And from the CIA World Factbook:

Ethnic groups:
indigenous African 95% (including Kpelle, Bassa, Gio, Kru, Grebo, Mano, Krahn, Gola, Gbandi, Loma, Kissi, Vai, Dei, Bella, Mandingo, and Mende), Americo-Liberians 2.5% (descendants of immigrants from the US who had been slaves), Congo People 2.5% (descendants of immigrants from the Caribbean who had been slaves)

Religions:
Christian 40%, Muslim 20%, indigenous beliefs 40%
Liberia People 2009, CIA World Factbook

So... the way I see it ... it's a third world where women aren't considered any more than property thing....


You don't Know the Definition of the Word "Troll"...

Can you Name another Religion that would turn it's Back on an 8 Year Old Rape Victim?...

Or even Worse, Stone her?... Not that she is going to be Stoned...

And also, this was in AMERICA!... So this Shit Culture and or Religion has Infected our Soil.

:)

peace...
Do you ever get tired of being an ineffectual hate monger? I think you are actually an embarrassment to hatemongers everywhere.


Hmmmmn...

Maybe I should say, keep up the good work? :lol:
 
You don't Know the Definition of the Word "Troll"...

Can you Name another Religion that would turn it's Back on an 8 Year Old Rape Victim?...

Or even Worse, Stone her?... Not that she is going to be Stoned...

And also, this was in AMERICA!... So this Shit Culture and or Religion has Infected our Soil.

:)

peace...

Actually, I do.

I just showed you... Certain African tribes turn their backs on raped girls.... or didn't you bother reading? I made it easy enough even for you. I suspect you will find that quite commonly among fundamentalist religions and third world systems where females have no value.

As for that "infected our soil" garbage. White Christian men are by far the most common serial killers... does that mean white christian men are "infecting" our soil?

You really aren't very good at this, are you?

BTW, do you say peace purposely because of how it juxtaposes with the trash that comes from your posts?

just wondering....
 
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Do you ever get tired of being an ineffectual hate monger? I think you are actually an embarrassment to hatemongers everywhere.


Hmmmmn...

Maybe I should say, keep up the good work? :lol:

The Tactic of Calling those you can't Debate "Hatefull", "Racist" or whatever else, doesn't Work to Silence me...

You can Continue Using it, if it's all you got, but in the Meantime, I will be here Discussing Issues like the one I have Raised.

If you Care to Answer the Question I Asked, go right ahead.

:)

peace...
 
As for that "infected our soil" garbage. White Christian men are by far the most common serial killers... does that mean white christian men are "infecting" our soil?
....


They are Often Homosexuals...

It's True... Was Jeffrey Dahmer more a "White Christian" or a HomoCannibal?...

There was this DemocRAT Staffer who was a Serial Killer also, what was his Name?...

Yeah, there's a LONG list of Homosexual Serial Killers.

I'm Sure you've Seen it.

Now that you Allowed this Thread to go WAY away from my Question that is Based on the Story, let's try to Move Back, mmmkay...

What Religion, aside from Ilsam, Turns it's Back on an 8 Year Old Rape Victim?...

:)

peace...
 
They are Often Homosexuals...

other than your own big mouth, what proof?

what percentage of these people were homosexual?

like i said, you aren't very good at this.

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I don't get the rub anyways.

It's obvious that there was most likely some sort of religious or cultural factor behind the parents turning their back on their daughter.

Either way, this crime shocks the conscious and the suspects are going to be charged as criminals, and the girl, who has been disowned, is being taken care of by the state.

Despite claims to the contrary, this story seems to support the notion that when you come to our country regardless of your culture or religion, you live under our laws.
 
Before this trainwreck of a discussion continues, the OP must prove that the family mentioned in the story was Islamic or admit that he's a dumbfuck.

Excellent point.

We already know that one of the two choices that you listed is a given.
 
It said that she brought shame on the family.

I think it means her being raped, brought shame on the father. Not "her" but the fact she was raped, and the "shame" coming from his "guilt," of not being there. An un-realistic expectation for a dad to be there 110% of the time as protector, but if this is where the source of "shame" is, I can understand it. I don't agree with it, but I understand it.

My lil brother got beat up once by these punks. I felt ashamed I wasn't there to save him. I read it as that sort of thing, could always be wrong though but if I'm right I can see their point of view.
Tony Weedor, a Liberian who fled civil war with his family and now lives in the Denver, Colorado, area, told CNN that cultural aspects are deep in the case. In Liberia rape was not against the law until 2006, he said.

"The family [believes they] have been shamed by her, not a crime, but the name of the family has been degraded and news will get back to Liberia. And they're more concerned about that than the crime," said Weedor, who is co-founder of the CenterPoint International Foundation, which aids Liberian refugees in the United States and provides aid for those still in Liberia.
 
Is this an American thing a New York thing, or a Islamic thingy?

Muzzammil Hassan: Muslim TV Exec Accused Of Beheading Wife In NY May Have Committed "Honor Killing"

Muzzammil "Mo" Hassan is accused of beheading his wife last week, days after she filed for divorce. Authorities have not discussed the role religion or culture might have played, but the slaying gave rise to speculation that it was the sort of "honor killing" more common in countries half a world away, including the couple's native Pakistan
 
Is this an American thing a New York thing, or a Islamic thingy?

Muzzammil Hassan: Muslim TV Exec Accused Of Beheading Wife In NY May Have Committed "Honor Killing"

Muzzammil "Mo" Hassan is accused of beheading his wife last week, days after she filed for divorce. Authorities have not discussed the role religion or culture might have played, but the slaying gave rise to speculation that it was the sort of "honor killing" more common in countries half a world away, including the couple's native Pakistan
FaggotStix

You failed again.

So now you are switching to a dfferent story. :lol:
 

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