Is the Voluntary Military a Good?

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  1. midcan5
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    Everyone who served in the military knows some things. And while my perspective is from the sixties I would think these things still hold. No soldier, Marine, Air Force, Army, or Navy recruit does anything they are not told to do. GIs of any strip work for their government, if they disagreed with any policy or duty, be it KP or latrine duty, they were always free to see the Chaplain.

    Military life can be a good life if you can tolerate the restrictions and the constant travel, sometimes to the remotest reaches of the earth. Family stayed home. This lead to many family problems, the saddest thing for the soldier was the 'Dear John.' Personally I never quite fit in, my time was the time of the draft and most American boys thought it a duty and not the enslavement some consider it today. Failure to salute got my ass reamed out many times. 'Sorry Sir, I didn't see you.'

    But you learn in the military, we still had the GI Bill, and the service taught you to take care of yourself, to grow up, to learn during those hours of just watch. We had lots of drunks and lots of lifers, and lots of dreamers hoping for a better tomorrow, no one complained about three-two, like all things it was a mixed experience.

    Now consider today when Navy Seals presume to take credit for something they were ordered to do and when they were provided the training and tools to do it? Obviously Obama deserves credit for a gutsy decision and the Seals great credit for a pretty flawless operation, but when did this mindless (political?) whining become part of the military too? It is bad enough we have the useless whining of the tea party, now the military has entered the fray. Remember RHIP, the chain of command matters if order is to be maintained. What has happened to the code of conduct.

    So I ask is the voluntary military another step towards the decline of America? A step closer to a banana republic in which the banana owners control the republic. Is the all volunteer Army a good thing? I am beginning to think not. Diversity provides brakes on group think. Your thoughts.

    A grunt forever and proud of it.
     
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    They don't 'work for the government', they work for us... 'we, the people'.

    Idiot.
     
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    Obviously Hillary and Val Jarette deserves credit for a gutsy decision

    there, fixed
     
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    The U.S. military today is as well equiped, trained, and professional as any time in history. Not better than other eras by any means. I would not dare compare our Greatest Generation to anyone but have seen personally members of this group marvel at the accomplishments of today's members. I also hold Vietnam veterans in the highest esteem. The contributions and sacrifices of these men and women are much more monumental than given credit for.

    The present day outcry from former military members and SEAL operators in particular comes from the leaks of information designed to make the president look good. The bin Laden hit was a gift and a no-brainer. Obama had no choice but to OK the operation. One of the true crimes in this is the Paki physician who sits in prison due to his role. Without him, the U.S. would not have known Geronimo was in the house.

    Also, the only thing "banana republic" about this great country is the Chicago political machine currently occupying 1600 Pennsylvannia Ave.
     
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    Just look at the wars America is involved in today and ask yourself if they have anything to do with "Defending Freedom"?

    Anyone who volunteers for the Military nowadays aught to have his head examined.
     
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    So you are the asshole that treated us bad while in the military!?
     
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    You are shallow, but I am sure you feel safe and secure in your hate. I would never want you as a buddy in the military.
     
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    When I was in the service, 82-92, seems there were 3 different types of thinking:

    1. Guys who loved what they did and wanted nothing else.
    2. Guys who were just glad to NOT be in the other branches.
    3. Guys who viewed it as "Just another Gov't job".
     
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    Platoon with me in World of Tanks.
     
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    I never understooud the ones that joined and then would do anything to get out. One cat in the motor pool beat his arm against an Abrahams M-1 tank until he broke his arm, just to get out of duty.
    I was in from 1982-1988 Army, lasy duty station, Fart Hood, Tx. 1/68 Air Defense artillery company D
     
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