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A lot of people are so interested in social issues that they ignore the economic issues.
The modern GOP was smart enough to capitalize on these grand differences in social politics.
I have posted factual links and post that basically support what FreeWorld is posting about and I never seem to get replies from the far right crowd And I've done it often.
Wages are where they were in 1980 for working Americans and that is despite an 86% increase in worker productivity and a 90% growth in the US economy since 1980. So yes, the middle class/working class is getting screwed. And yes, many middle class conservatives have drank the kool-aid as noted by the absence of a good debate dealing with facts.
Wealth is as concentrated as it was just prior to 1929 and economic history shows how well that worked for America.
It's time for the middle class/working class to get it share of the economic pie.
Then talk to your employer and get a raise.
Also since 1980, benefits offered by employers has gone up.
You may not recall, but not every place offered health ins, now it's common.
Oh, and please none of this cry baby crap about not being able to ask for a raise.
Many, many people kneel down before the boss, hat in hand to plead for a raise only to be told that, "If you're not happy with your pay then quit. I can find plenty of people to replace you".
.
There is no substitute for "Value for Value". "Something for Nothing" is Total Bullshit, Somebody Always pays. Start by living within your means. This holds for the Individual, the Society, and the Government that claims to serve it.
Feeding Incompetence and Mismanagement only encourages more of it.
I'm always puzzled how the under employed "Joe the Plumber" types and unions of police and fire fighters continue to support the Republican Party.
After all... what have they actually done for the conservative working class? We don't ask them to do anything for us dumbass. That's why we believe in small government and independence. Don't try it, it's hard to do, you might starve to death.
Mostly the GOP has kept wages low and pushed the majority of tax paying onto the middled class. Moron, minimum wage increases have never solved anything.
No matter what the rate is for the rich (high or low) they usually hire accountants that ensure the super rich pay little if any actual tax. Then change the laws crybaby.
But the current big con are the conservative PACS that take money from the working class Conservative Republicans and give nothing back to them.
Such as Americans For Prosperity - sounds great and I'm in favor of prosperity - but the Koch brothers are the only ones getting rich from this PAC... NOT the middle class majority.
It's NOT a real Free Market at work stupid! Then get the government out of it so there's no kick backs.
I hear the worn out, lame comments from the GOP and Conservatives all the time that it's just the "Free Market" or it's "Supply and Demand" and you got to lower taxes so the wealthy can create jobs. If all that is true... It is.
Where are the jobs GOP from the Bush Tax Cuts? He had very low numbers for a very long time.
Does anyone remember the Bush Tax Cuts that were supposed to create lots and lots of jobs?
Because... you know... if you give the rich and super wealthy big tax breaks they will create lots of jobs right?
In fact - the opposite has happened - a sharp DECLINE in jobs after the Bush Tax Cuts. link
Tax Dollar Subsidized Business is NOT Capitalism or the Free Market
What the GOP really wants is the low wage class and the middle class to subsidized the already wealthy and super rich. link
Billion Dollar businesses such as McDonald's as Walmart get super big tax breaks and subsidies a.k.a "Corporate Welfare" paid mostly by the middle class tax payers who don't even benefit from a higher wages or benefits due to a subsidy. link. But they did get to opt out of that great obamacare.
$8 an hour is poverty level for a family in this country.Then you need a better job.
Middle Class Consumers and Buyers are the fuel that creates the Wealth and Job Growth!
GOP love to repeat the old Reaganomics tax plan of 1981.
FYI - 1980 Tax Rates was 70% 50% 215,400
* Reduce Government spending.
* Reduce Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax. Did you know that Clinton did that and increased revenues?
* Reduce Government regulation.
and
* Control the money supply to reduce inflation.
Reagan said this would create "Trickle Down Economics" which sorta works if the economic conditions are a certain way such as businesses hiring more people that yields incomes.
When Ronald Reagan was president in the 80's he actually came in with a bad recession and taxes were super high
You are a very boring and regurgitating fool.
We here at USMB expect idiotic claims to come with links to prove what we say.
Holy fuck. Its common knowledge.
I'm always puzzled how the under employed "Joe the Plumber" types and unions of police and fire fighters continue to support the Republican Party.
After all... what have they actually done for the conservative working class?
Mostly the GOP has kept wages low and pushed the majority of tax paying onto the middled class.
No matter what the rate is for the rich (high or low) they usually hire accountants that ensure the super rich pay little if any actual tax.
But the current big con are the conservative PACS that take money from the working class Conservative Republicans and give nothing back to them.
Such as Americans For Prosperity - sounds great and I'm in favor of prosperity - but the Koch brothers are the only ones getting rich from this PAC... NOT the middle class majority.
It's NOT a real Free Market at work stupid!
I hear the worn out, lame comments from the GOP and Conservatives all the time that it's just the "Free Market" or it's "Supply and Demand" and you got to lower taxes so the wealthy can create jobs. If all that is true...
Where are the jobs GOP from the Bush Tax Cuts?
Does anyone remember the Bush Tax Cuts that were supposed to create lots and lots of jobs?
Because... you know... if you give the rich and super wealthy big tax breaks they will create lots of jobs right?
In fact - the opposite has happened - a sharp DECLINE in jobs after the Bush Tax Cuts.
Tax Dollar Subsidized Business is NOT Capitalism or the Free Market
What the GOP really wants is the low wage class and the middle class to subsidized the already wealthy and super rich.
Billion Dollar businesses such as McDonald's as Walmart get super big tax breaks and subsidies a.k.a "Corporate Welfare" paid mostly by the middle class tax payers who don't even benefit from a higher wages or benefits due to a subsidy.
$8 an hour is poverty level for a family in this country.
Middle Class Consumers and Buyers are the fuel that creates the Wealth and Job Growth!
GOP love to repeat the old Reaganomics tax plan of 1981.
FYI - 1980 Tax Rates was 70% 50% 215,400
* Reduce Government spending.
* Reduce Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax.
* Reduce Government regulation.
and
* Control the money supply to reduce inflation.
Reagan said this would create "Trickle Down Economics" which sorta works if the economic conditions are a certain way such as businesses hiring more people that yields incomes.
When Ronald Reagan was president in the 80's he actually came in with a bad recession and taxes were super high
I'm always puzzled how the under employed "Joe the Plumber" types and unions of police and fire fighters continue to support the Republican Party.
After all... what have they actually done for the conservative working class?
Mostly the GOP has kept wages low and pushed the majority of tax paying onto the middled class.
No matter what the rate is for the rich (high or low) they usually hire accountants that ensure the super rich pay little if any actual tax.
But the current big con are the conservative PACS that take money from the working class Conservative Republicans and give nothing back to them.
Such as Americans For Prosperity - sounds great and I'm in favor of prosperity - but the Koch brothers are the only ones getting rich from this PAC... NOT the middle class majority.
It's NOT a real Free Market at work stupid!
I hear the worn out, lame comments from the GOP and Conservatives all the time that it's just the "Free Market" or it's "Supply and Demand" and you got to lower taxes so the wealthy can create jobs. If all that is true...
Where are the jobs GOP from the Bush Tax Cuts?
Does anyone remember the Bush Tax Cuts that were supposed to create lots and lots of jobs?
Because... you know... if you give the rich and super wealthy big tax breaks they will create lots of jobs right?
In fact - the opposite has happened - a sharp DECLINE in jobs after the Bush Tax Cuts.
Tax Dollar Subsidized Business is NOT Capitalism or the Free Market
What the GOP really wants is the low wage class and the middle class to subsidized the already wealthy and super rich.
Billion Dollar businesses such as McDonald's as Walmart get super big tax breaks and subsidies a.k.a "Corporate Welfare" paid mostly by the middle class tax payers who don't even benefit from a higher wages or benefits due to a subsidy.
$8 an hour is poverty level for a family in this country.
Middle Class Consumers and Buyers are the fuel that creates the Wealth and Job Growth!
GOP love to repeat the old Reaganomics tax plan of 1981.
FYI - 1980 Tax Rates was 70% 50% 215,400
* Reduce Government spending.
* Reduce Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax.
* Reduce Government regulation.
and
* Control the money supply to reduce inflation.
Reagan said this would create "Trickle Down Economics" which sorta works if the economic conditions are a certain way such as businesses hiring more people that yields incomes.
When Ronald Reagan was president in the 80's he actually came in with a bad recession and taxes were super high
A lot of people are so interested in social issues that they ignore the economic issues.
The modern GOP was smart enough to capitalize on these grand differences in social politics.
True and that is why I blame the GOP for the lion's share of this mess. They only reason I don't vote Democrat is because all of their proposals call for even higher spending.oooooooooooooooooooooooo.....more Absolutes; no (actual) list.
How bold of you.
I am always puzzled at how socialists hate the free market. For one thing Bush tax cuts created jobs.....I'm always puzzled how the under employed "Joe the Plumber" types and unions of police and fire fighters continue to support the Republican Party.
After all... what have they actually done for the conservative working class?
Mostly the GOP has kept wages low and pushed the majority of tax paying onto the middled class.
No matter what the rate is for the rich (high or low) they usually hire accountants that ensure the super rich pay little if any actual tax.
But the current big con are the conservative PACS that take money from the working class Conservative Republicans and give nothing back to them.
Such as Americans For Prosperity - sounds great and I'm in favor of prosperity - but the Koch brothers are the only ones getting rich from this PAC... NOT the middle class majority.
It's NOT a real Free Market at work stupid!
I hear the worn out, lame comments from the GOP and Conservatives all the time that it's just the "Free Market" or it's "Supply and Demand" and you got to lower taxes so the wealthy can create jobs. If all that is true...
Where are the jobs GOP from the Bush Tax Cuts?
Does anyone remember the Bush Tax Cuts that were supposed to create lots and lots of jobs?
Because... you know... if you give the rich and super wealthy big tax breaks they will create lots of jobs right?
In fact - the opposite has happened - a sharp DECLINE in jobs after the Bush Tax Cuts.
Tax Dollar Subsidized Business is NOT Capitalism or the Free Market
What the GOP really wants is the low wage class and the middle class to subsidized the already wealthy and super rich.
Billion Dollar businesses such as McDonald's as Walmart get super big tax breaks and subsidies a.k.a "Corporate Welfare" paid mostly by the middle class tax payers who don't even benefit from a higher wages or benefits due to a subsidy.
$8 an hour is poverty level for a family in this country.
Middle Class Consumers and Buyers are the fuel that creates the Wealth and Job Growth!
GOP love to repeat the old Reaganomics tax plan of 1981.
FYI - 1980 Tax Rates was 70% 50% 215,400
* Reduce Government spending.
* Reduce Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax.
* Reduce Government regulation.
and
* Control the money supply to reduce inflation.
Reagan said this would create "Trickle Down Economics" which sorta works if the economic conditions are a certain way such as businesses hiring more people that yields incomes.
When Ronald Reagan was president in the 80's he actually came in with a bad recession and taxes were super high
You are a very boring and regurgitating fool.
We here at USMB expect idiotic claims to come with links to prove what we say.
Holy fuck. Its common knowledge.
Then link this common knowledge up for him.
If it's all fact based and common, this won't take but a moment.
It's been hours, but hey, maybe he's still asleeep.
I am always puzzled at how socialists hate the free market. For one thing Bush tax cuts created jobs, then the dimwits took control of congress, dimwits caused housing market failure and there you go. Blame the real culprits, the dimwits, or shutup.
I am always puzzled at how socialists hate the free market. For one thing Bush tax cuts created jobs, then the dimwits took control of congress, dimwits caused housing market failure and there you go. Blame the real culprits, the dimwits, or shutup.I'm always puzzled how the under employed "Joe the Plumber" types and unions of police and fire fighters continue to support the Republican Party.
After all... what have they actually done for the conservative working class?
Mostly the GOP has kept wages low and pushed the majority of tax paying onto the middled class.
No matter what the rate is for the rich (high or low) they usually hire accountants that ensure the super rich pay little if any actual tax.
But the current big con are the conservative PACS that take money from the working class Conservative Republicans and give nothing back to them.
Such as Americans For Prosperity - sounds great and I'm in favor of prosperity - but the Koch brothers are the only ones getting rich from this PAC... NOT the middle class majority.
It's NOT a real Free Market at work stupid!
I hear the worn out, lame comments from the GOP and Conservatives all the time that it's just the "Free Market" or it's "Supply and Demand" and you got to lower taxes so the wealthy can create jobs. If all that is true...
Where are the jobs GOP from the Bush Tax Cuts?
Does anyone remember the Bush Tax Cuts that were supposed to create lots and lots of jobs?
Because... you know... if you give the rich and super wealthy big tax breaks they will create lots of jobs right?
In fact - the opposite has happened - a sharp DECLINE in jobs after the Bush Tax Cuts.
Tax Dollar Subsidized Business is NOT Capitalism or the Free Market
What the GOP really wants is the low wage class and the middle class to subsidized the already wealthy and super rich.
Billion Dollar businesses such as McDonald's as Walmart get super big tax breaks and subsidies a.k.a "Corporate Welfare" paid mostly by the middle class tax payers who don't even benefit from a higher wages or benefits due to a subsidy.
$8 an hour is poverty level for a family in this country.
Middle Class Consumers and Buyers are the fuel that creates the Wealth and Job Growth!
GOP love to repeat the old Reaganomics tax plan of 1981.
FYI - 1980 Tax Rates was 70% 50% 215,400
* Reduce Government spending.
* Reduce Income Tax and Capital Gains Tax.
* Reduce Government regulation.
and
* Control the money supply to reduce inflation.
Reagan said this would create "Trickle Down Economics" which sorta works if the economic conditions are a certain way such as businesses hiring more people that yields incomes.
When Ronald Reagan was president in the 80's he actually came in with a bad recession and taxes were super high
So did we have truly free markets under BushII? BushI? Reagan? When was the last time we had free markets? And can you show that Bush's tax cuts directly provided jobs?
Face it, you're just expousing Trickle Down Economics. And it was a failed policy.
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Bush & the Republicans were creating jobs until the Democrats took control of congress in 2007 & destroyed jobs & the economy. Unlike the democrat lies, don't just take my word for it, check the chart. Since the Republicans took back the House in 2011 to block Democrats neurotic control of business, jobs are once again on the rise. Democrats have destroyed all the jobs & the economy. Now since January 2011 America, Jobs & the Economy are making a comeback.
All of the politicos are at fault for the economic malaise we are in. Mainly for not setting up oversight on the exotic financials that were being conducted in the last decade.
It is not who is in office when it occurred but who was in there before and let it happen. The sudden increase of of gas to $4.00+ was the catalyst that started the decline and caused that shaky house of cards to fall and the loss of jobs as seen in your chart. With the arrival of $4.00 gas again (yes it is here and $5.00 may be here July 4th) the strain on our feeble recovery may cause another recession.
True and that is why I blame the GOP for the lion's share of this mess. They only reason I don't vote Democrat is because all of their proposals call for even higher spending.oooooooooooooooooooooooo.....more Absolutes; no (actual) list.
How bold of you.
Well there's this history:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2012/assets/hist01z2.xls
Note the outlays when Dems controlled the House only, the House and Senate Only, and both the Executive and Legislative Branches. Note the increases in outlays when chambers have changed parties. Here's a hint, in the last 40 years the outlays always went up. When Democrats replaced Republicans in the House outlays always increased more than when Republicans replaced Democrats. When Democrats replaced Republicans in both the House and the Oval Office, an even higher increase in spending resulted. Guess what happened when Democrats got all 3?
You are a very boring and regurgitating fool.
We here at USMB expect idiotic claims to come with links to prove what we say.
I have posted factual links and post that basically support what FreeWorld is posting about and I never seem to get replies from the far right crowd And I've done it often.
Wages are where they were in 1980 for working Americans and that is despite an 86% increase in worker productivity and a 90% growth in the US economy since 1980. So yes, the middle class/working class is getting screwed. And yes, many middle class conservatives have drank the kool-aid as noted by the absence of a good debate dealing with facts.
Wealth is as concentrated as it was just prior to 1929 and economic history shows how well that worked for America.
It's time for the middle class/working class to get it share of the economic pie.
Then talk to your employer and get a raise.
Also since 1980, benefits offered by employers has gone up.
You may not recall, but not every place offered health ins, now it's common.
Oh, and please none of this cry baby crap about not being able to ask for a raise.
You are a very boring and regurgitating fool.
We here at USMB expect idiotic claims to come with links to prove what we say.
Holy fuck. Its common knowledge.
Then link this common knowledge up for him.
If it's all fact based and common, this won't take but a moment.
It's been hours, but hey, maybe he's still asleeep.
Then talk to your employer and get a raise.
Also since 1980, benefits offered by employers has gone up.
You may not recall, but not every place offered health ins, now it's common.
Oh, and please none of this cry baby crap about not being able to ask for a raise.
Many, many people kneel down before the boss, hat in hand to plead for a raise only to be told that, "If you're not happy with your pay then quit. I can find plenty of people to replace you".
.
Then your a punk.
I've never gone hat in hand to my boss. I've walked in with cold hard facts and shown w/o any doubt that I'm worth what I'm asking.
sometimes the answer is no. But I have the balls to ask why. If it's a lame reply, I will find a new job.
thanks for showing you are a punk, not that a union slave needed to prove it.
Holy fuck. Its common knowledge.
Then link this common knowledge up for him.
If it's all fact based and common, this won't take but a moment.
It's been hours, but hey, maybe he's still asleeep.
You're going to have to read it, you're going to have to apply what you read, but here you go:
Corporate Welfare Information Center
I have posted factual links and post that basically support what FreeWorld is posting about and I never seem to get replies from the far right crowd And I've done it often.
Wages are where they were in 1980 for working Americans and that is despite an 86% increase in worker productivity and a 90% growth in the US economy since 1980. So yes, the middle class/working class is getting screwed. And yes, many middle class conservatives have drank the kool-aid as noted by the absence of a good debate dealing with facts.
Wealth is as concentrated as it was just prior to 1929 and economic history shows how well that worked for America.
It's time for the middle class/working class to get it share of the economic pie.
Then talk to your employer and get a raise.
Also since 1980, benefits offered by employers has gone up.
You may not recall, but not every place offered health ins, now it's common.
Oh, and please none of this cry baby crap about not being able to ask for a raise.
Many, many people kneel down before the boss, hat in hand to plead for a raise only to be told that, "If you're not happy with your pay then quit. I can find plenty of people to replace you".
Holy fuck. Its common knowledge.
Then link this common knowledge up for him.
If it's all fact based and common, this won't take but a moment.
It's been hours, but hey, maybe he's still asleeep.
Gotta link to back that up?
.
