HILLARY!: "What difference does it make?"...

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: "With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans, was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk last night who decided to kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."

You'll recall during the 3rd Presidential Debate when Obama said we have FEWER horses and boyonets the usual suspects here jumped on him as if he said we no longer have bayonets.

When you live for 5 years in the same state of seething hatred that the GOP loons here have lived in, I guess you stop hearing what was said and replace it with what you think someone said.

The difference is very important. Without knowing the whole story you can NEVER make sure it doesn't happen again....capice?

Oh...okay so we should do what exactly to make sure it "doesn't happen again"? 24/7 Combat air patrol over our embassies.. A few armored pieces inside the compounds.... a company of marines at each location....Harrier jump jets ready to take off...or the idea you guys had a of an AC-130 for crowd control (great idea there).

Here is a list:
AFRICA

• Africa Regional Services - Paris
• Angola: Luanda | Português
• Benin: Cotonou
• Botswana: Gaborone
• Burkina Faso: Ouagadougou | Français
• Burundi: Bujumbura
• Cameroon: Yaounde | Français
• Cameroon: VPP Septentrion
• Cape Verde: Praia | Português
• Central African Republic: Bangui
• Chad: N'Djamena | Français
• Democratic Republic of the Congo:
Kinshasa | Français
• Republic of the Congo: Brazzaville | Français
• Côte d’Ivoire: Abidjan | Français
• Republic of Djibouti: Djibouti
• Equatorial Guinea: Malabo
• Eritrea: Asmara
• Ethiopia: Addis Ababa
• Gabon: Libreville
• Ghana: Accra
• Guinea: Conakry | Français
• Guinea-Bissau VPP
• Kenya: Nairobi
• Lesotho: Maseru
• Liberia: Monrovia
• Madagascar: Antananarivo
• Malawi: Lilongwe
• Mali: Bamako | Français
• Mauritania: Nouakchott | Français | عربي
• Mauritius: Port Louis
• Mauritius: VPP Seychelles
• Mozambique: Maputo | Portuguese
• Namibia: Windhoek
• Niger: Niamey
• Nigeria: Abuja
• Rwanda: Kigali
• Senegal: Dakar | Français
• Sierra Leone: Freetown
• Somalia: VPP Somalia
• South Africa: Pretoria
• South Sudan: Juba
• Sudan: Khartoum
• Swaziland: Mbabane
• Tanzania: Dar es Salaam
• Tanzania: VPP Zanzibar
• The Gambia: Banjul
• Togo: Lome
• Uganda: Kampala
• Zambia: Lusaka
• Zimbabwe: Harare
• U.S. Mission to the African Union
• U.S. Mission to the UN Environmental Program
(UNEP)


THE AMERICAS

• Argentina: Buenos Aires | Español
• Bahamas: Nassau
• Barbados: Bridgetown
• Belize: Belmopan
• Bermuda: Hamilton
• Bolivia: La Paz | Español
• Brazil: Brasilia | Português
• Brazil: Rio de Janeiro | Português
• Brazil: Recife | Português
• Brazil: São Paulo | Português
• Canada: Ottawa
• Canada: Calgary
• Canada: Halifax
• Canada: Montreal
• Canada: Quebec
• Canada: Toronto
• Canada: Vancouver
• Canada: Winnipeg
• Chile: Santiago | Español
• Colombia: Bogota | Español
• Costa Rica: San Jose
• Cuba: U.S. Interests Section | Español
• Dominican Republic: Santo Domingo| Español
• Ecuador: Quito | Español
• Ecuador: Guayaquil | Español
• El Salvador: San Salvador | Español
• Guatemala: Guatemala City | Español
• Guatemala: VPP Xela
• Guyana: Georgetown
• Haiti: Port-au-Prince | Français
• Honduras: Tegucigalpa | Español
• Honduras: VPP San Pedro Sula | Español
• Jamaica: Kingston
• Mexico: Mexico City | Español
• Mexico: Ciudad Juarez | Español
• Mexico: Guadalajara | Español
• Mexico: Hermosillo | Español
• Mexico: Matamoros | Español
• Mexico: Merida | Español
• Mexico: Monterrey | Español
• Mexico: Nogales | Español
• Mexico: Nuevo Laredo
• Mexico: Puerto Vallarta
• Mexico: Tijuana | Español
• Mexico: VPP El Bajio | Español
• Mexico: VPP Chiapas-Tabasco | Español
• Netherlands Antilles: Curacao
• Nicaragua: Managua | Español
• Panama: Panama City | Español
• Paraguay: Asuncion | Español
• Peru: Lima | Español
• Suriname: Paramaribo
• Trinidad & Tobago: Port of Spain
• Uruguay: Montevideo | Español
• Venezuela: Caracas | Español
• U.S. Mission to the ICAO
• U.S. Mission to the OAS
• U.S. Mission to the U.N.-New York

EAST ASIA AND PACIFIC

• Australia: Canberra
• Australia: Melbourne
• Australia: Perth
• Australia: Sydney
• Brunei: Bandar Seri Begawan
• Burma: Rangoon
• Cambodia: Phnom Penh | Khmer
• China: Beijing | ä¸*文版
• China: Chengdu | ä¸*文版
• China: Guangzhou | ä¸*文版
• China: Shanghai | ä¸*文版
• China: Shenyang | ä¸*文版
• China: Wuhan | ä¸*文版
• China: VPP Kunming | ä¸*文版
• China: VPP Lhasa | ä¸*文版 | Tibetan
• China: VPP Zhengzhou (ä¸*文版)
• Fiji: Suva
• Fiji: VPP Tonga
• Hong Kong and Macau | ä¸*文版
• Indonesia: Jakarta | Bahasa
• Indonesia: Surabaya
• Indonesia: APP Medan | Bahasa
• Japan: Tokyo | 日本語
• Japan: Fukuoka | 日本語
• Japan: Nagoya | 日本語
• Japan: Osaka/Kobe | 日本語
• Japan: Sapporo | 日本語
• Japan: Naha, Okinawa | 日本語
• Korea: Seoul | 한êµ*어
• Korea: Busan | 한êµ*어
• Laos: Vientiane
• Malaysia: Kuala Lumpur | Bahasa Malaysia
• Republic of the Marshall Islands:
Majuro
• Federated States of Micronesia:
Kolonia
• Mongolia: Ulaanbaatar | МОНГОЛ
• New Zealand: Wellington
• Papua New Guinea: Port Moresby
• Republic of Palau: Koror
• Philippines: Manila
• Philippines: VPP Mindanao
• Samoa: Apia
• Singapore
• Thailand: Bangkok | ภาษาไทย
• Thailand: Chiang Mai
• Timor-Leste: Dili
• Vietnam: Hanoi | Tièng Viêt
• Vietnam: Ho Chi Minh City | Tièng Viêt
• U.S. Mission to ASEAN
• Taiwan**


EUROPE AND EURASIA

• Albania: Tirana | Shqip
• Armenia: Yerevan | Հայերեն
• Austria: Vienna | Deutsch
• Azerbaijan: Baku | Azeri
• Belarus: Minsk | па-беларуску
• Belgium: Brussels | Français | Nederlands
• Bosnia & Herzegovina: Sarajevo | B/H/S
• Bulgaria: Sofia | Български
• Croatia: Zagreb | Hrvatski
• Cyprus: Nicosia
• Czech Republic: Prague | česky
• Denmark: Copenhagen
• Denmark-Greenland: VPP Nuuk
• Estonia: Tallinn | Eesti keeles | Pycckuú
• Finland: Helsinki | Finnish
• France: Paris | Français
• France: Bordeaux | Français
• France: Lille
• France: Lyon | Français
• France: Rennes | Français
• France: Toulouse | Français
• France: Marseille | Français
• France: Strasbourg | Français
• France: VPP Monaco
• Georgia: Tbilisi | ქართულად
• Germany: Berlin | Deutsch
• Germany: Düsseldorf | Deutsch
• Germany: Frankfurt | Deutsch
• Germany: Hamburg | Deutsch
• Germany: Leipzig | Deutsch
• Germany: Munich | Deutsch
• Greece: Athens
• Greece: Thessaloniki
• Hungary: Budapest | Magyarul
• Iceland: Reykjavik
• Ireland: Dublin
• Italy: Rome | Italiano
• Italy: Florence | Italiano
• Italy: Milan | Italiano
• Italy: Naples | Italiano
• Italy: VPP San Marino
• Kosovo: Pristina | Shqip | Srpski
• Latvia: Riga | Latviski | Pycckuú
• Lithuania: Vilnius
• Luxembourg
• Macedonia: Skopje | Shqip | Македонски
• Malta: Valletta
• Moldova: Chisinau | Română | Pycckuú
• Montenegro: Podgorica
• The Netherlands: The Hague
• The Netherlands: Amsterdam
• Norway: Oslo
• Poland: Warsaw | Polski
• Poland: Krakow | Polski
• Portugal: Lisbon | Português
• Portugal: Ponta Delgada, Azores | Português
• Romania: Bucharest
• Russia: Moscow | Pycckuú
• Russia: St. Petersburg | Pycckuú
• Russia: Vladivostok | Pycckuú
• Russia: Yekaterinburg | Pycckuú
• Serbia: Belgrade | Srpski
• Slovakia: Bratislava | Slovenská
• Slovenia: Ljubljana
• Spain: Madrid | Español
• Spain: Barcelona | Español | Catalá
• Sweden: Stockholm
• Switzerland: Bern
• Switzerland: VPP Liechtenstein
• Turkey: Ankara | Türkçe
• Turkey: Adana
• Turkey: Istanbul
• Ukraine: Kyiv | Українська
• United Kingdom: London
• United Kingdom: Belfast
• United Kingdom: Edinburgh
• United Kingdom: VPP Cardiff
• The Vatican
• U.S. Mission to International
Organizations in Vienna
• U.S. Mission to the EU
• U.S. Mission to NATO
• U.S. Mission to the OECD
• U.S. Mission to the OSCE | Pycckuú
• U.S. Mission to the UN-Geneva
• U.S. Mission to the UN-Rome
• U.S. Mission to UNESCO



MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA

• Algeria: Algiers | Français | عربي
• Bahrain: Manama
• Egypt: Cairo
• Egypt: APP Alexandria
• Iran: Virtual Embassy Tehran | فارسی
• Iraq: Baghdad | عربي
• Iraq: Basrah
• Iraq: Erbil
• Iraq: Kirkuk
• Israel: Tel Aviv
• Jerusalem | عربي
• VPP Gaza | عربي
• Jordan: Amman | عربي
• Kuwait: Kuwait City | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Lebanon: Beirut | عربي
• Libya: Tripoli | عربي
• Morocco: Rabat | Français
• Morocco: Casablanca
• Oman: Muscat | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Qatar: Doha | عربي
• Saudi Arabia: Riyadh | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Saudi Arabia: Dhahran
• Saudi Arabia: Jeddah | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Syria: Damascus | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Tunisia: Tunis | Français | عربي
• United Arab Emirates: Abu Dhabi
• United Arab Emirates: Dubai
• Yemen: Sana'a | الصفØ*Ø© العربية

CENTRAL AND SOUTH ASIA

• Afghanistan: Kabul | دری | پشتو
• Bangladesh: Dhaka
• Bangladesh: VPP Chittagong
• Bangladesh: VPP Jessore
• Bangladesh: VPP Sylhet
• India: New Delhi
• India: Chennai
• India: Hyderabad
• India: Kolkata
• India: Mumbai
• India: VPP Bangalore
• Kazakhstan: Astana | Русский | Қазақша
• Kazakhstan: Almaty | Русский
• Kyrgyz Republic: Bishkek | Кыргызча | Русский
• Nepal: Kathmandu
• Pakistan: Islamabad
• Pakistan: Karachi
• Pakistan: Lahore
• Pakistan: Peshawar
• Sri Lanka: Colombo
• Sri Lanka: VPP Maldives
• Tajikistan: Dushanbe | Русский
• Turkmenistan: Ashgabat | Türkmen dilinde | Русский
• Uzbekistan: Tashkent | Русский | O'zbekcha

I know what you're thinking....Al Queda can't attack in some of those places. It's not like they ever did anything in London or New York or any place like that.
 
If those embassies ask for extra security, like Benghazi did, then that extra security should be provided.

The Current State Department decided, for whatever reason, not to send extra security.

Thats the reason those four good men are dead. Not what could happen at some other embassy or consulate.

Thats the fact. The State Department dropped the ball. They are the reason those four good men are dead. No extra security was provided when it should have been.

No one will be held accountable and none of those fat assed desk jockeys will lose their jobs.

To bad they weren't the ones in that consulate. Doubt I would shed a tear for any of em.
 
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In my opinion this was all over Kum By Ya politics. They didn't want a large force there to fight with our new Libyan friends. They were probably told that the embassy would be protected by our new friends. When the fighting started they may have actually believed that it was over a video. So thinking such they didn't want to bomb our new friends so they held off not really knowing what was going on because this was yet another CIA lack of intelligence. So we lost 4 men because Obama wanted to be buddies with the new Libyan leaders.

On another point that is why Obama's kill list supplied by the CIA is so worrisome. Along with Holder saying Obama can pretty much kill anyone they tell him anywhere, American or not. The CIA on several occasions, Benghazi, have proved they don't know what is going on and we are to trust them with American lives????
 
If those embassies ask for extra security, like Benghazi did, then that extra security should be provided.

I'll agree with that to an extent. Also, Benghazi was not the embassy site, it was a consulate.


The Current State Department decided, for whatever reason, not to send extra security.

Thats the reason those four good men are dead. Not what could happen at some other embassy or consulate.
Bullshit.

They're dead because they were attacked. Had a Beirut style truck bomb been used, we'd just have mroe dead people.

This is where the right wing hate machine goes off the rails every fucking time....If A then B. Equating the dead State department officials to actions taken weeks and months earlier is like saying the cheeseburger you ate in May is the reason you had the stroke in January.

Thats the fact. The State Department dropped the ball. They are the reason those four good men are dead. No extra security was provided when it should have been.
No, that is the bloodlust of the right wing.

No one will be held accountable and none of those fat assed desk jockeys will lose their jobs.

To bad they weren't the ones in that consulate. Doubt I would shed a tear for any of em.

I agree with that...your seething hatred prevents you from thinking clearly as this post indicates.
 
If those embassies ask for extra security, like Benghazi did, then that extra security should be provided.

The Current State Department decided, for whatever reason, not to send extra security.

Thats the reason those four good men are dead. Not what could happen at some other embassy or consulate.

Thats the fact. The State Department dropped the ball. They are the reason those four good men are dead. No extra security was provided when it should have been.

No one will be held accountable and none of those fat assed desk jockeys will lose their jobs.

To bad they weren't the ones in that consulate. Doubt I would shed a tear for any of em.

Chris Stevens was picked by Barack Hussein Obama, the right's evil incarnate. I am sure your tears are real, and I am sure if it were 'those fat assed desk jockeys' you wouldn't make their lives a political football...

NOT
 
If those embassies ask for extra security, like Benghazi did, then that extra security should be provided.

I'll agree with that to an extent. Also, Benghazi was not the embassy site, it was a consulate.


The Current State Department decided, for whatever reason, not to send extra security.

Thats the reason those four good men are dead. Not what could happen at some other embassy or consulate.
Bullshit.

They're dead because they were attacked. Had a Beirut style truck bomb been used, we'd just have mroe dead people.

This is where the right wing hate machine goes off the rails every fucking time....If A then B. Equating the dead State department officials to actions taken weeks and months earlier is like saying the cheeseburger you ate in May is the reason you had the stroke in January.

Thats the fact. The State Department dropped the ball. They are the reason those four good men are dead. No extra security was provided when it should have been.
No, that is the bloodlust of the right wing.

No one will be held accountable and none of those fat assed desk jockeys will lose their jobs.

To bad they weren't the ones in that consulate. Doubt I would shed a tear for any of em.

I agree with that...your seething hatred prevents you from thinking clearly as this post indicates.

Yup. They are dead because they were attacked. If they had had that extra security they might still be alive. They would probably been able to defend themselves

Oh so your saying if that extra security were given that they would still be dead?? Nice to know what a fortune teller you are. Along with that extra security was the heads up that something was up. Something they could have defended against.

Are you saying that the State Department didn't drop the ball? That they didn't ignore those requests for extra security? That the Ambassador didn't send e-mails for extra security because he had thoughts about an impending attack??

Thats not blood lust from the right. Thats me uttering my absolute disgust for this State Department and the absolute uncaring idiots that are running it.

Seething hatred?? Bullshit. Absolute disgust that those four men depended on Barry, Hillary and their State Department to have the're backs. Something that didnt' happen. Four good men are dead and those idiots are trying to sweep it all under the rug.

Oh and BTW I think pretty darned clearly. I know incompetantance when I see it.

Barry's State Department is apparantly one incompetant outfit.
 
You'll recall during the 3rd Presidential Debate when Obama said we have FEWER horses and boyonets the usual suspects here jumped on him as if he said we no longer have bayonets.

When you live for 5 years in the same state of seething hatred that the GOP loons here have lived in, I guess you stop hearing what was said and replace it with what you think someone said.

The difference is very important. Without knowing the whole story you can NEVER make sure it doesn't happen again....capice?

Oh...okay so we should do what exactly to make sure it "doesn't happen again"? 24/7 Combat air patrol over our embassies.. A few armored pieces inside the compounds.... a company of marines at each location....Harrier jump jets ready to take off...or the idea you guys had a of an AC-130 for crowd control (great idea there).

Here is a list:
AFRICA

• Africa Regional Services - Paris
• Angola: Luanda | Português
• Benin: Cotonou
• Botswana: Gaborone
• Burkina Faso: Ouagadougou | Français
• Burundi: Bujumbura
• Cameroon: Yaounde | Français
• Cameroon: VPP Septentrion
• Cape Verde: Praia | Português
• Central African Republic: Bangui
• Chad: N'Djamena | Français
• Democratic Republic of the Congo:
Kinshasa | Français
• Republic of the Congo: Brazzaville | Français
• Côte d’Ivoire: Abidjan | Français
• Republic of Djibouti: Djibouti
• Equatorial Guinea: Malabo
• Eritrea: Asmara
• Ethiopia: Addis Ababa
• Gabon: Libreville
• Ghana: Accra
• Guinea: Conakry | Français
• Guinea-Bissau VPP
• Kenya: Nairobi
• Lesotho: Maseru
• Liberia: Monrovia
• Madagascar: Antananarivo
• Malawi: Lilongwe
• Mali: Bamako | Français
• Mauritania: Nouakchott | Français | عربي
• Mauritius: Port Louis
• Mauritius: VPP Seychelles
• Mozambique: Maputo | Portuguese
• Namibia: Windhoek
• Niger: Niamey
• Nigeria: Abuja
• Rwanda: Kigali
• Senegal: Dakar | Français
• Sierra Leone: Freetown
• Somalia: VPP Somalia
• South Africa: Pretoria
• South Sudan: Juba
• Sudan: Khartoum
• Swaziland: Mbabane
• Tanzania: Dar es Salaam
• Tanzania: VPP Zanzibar
• The Gambia: Banjul
• Togo: Lome
• Uganda: Kampala
• Zambia: Lusaka
• Zimbabwe: Harare
• U.S. Mission to the African Union
• U.S. Mission to the UN Environmental Program
(UNEP)


THE AMERICAS

• Argentina: Buenos Aires | Español
• Bahamas: Nassau
• Barbados: Bridgetown
• Belize: Belmopan
• Bermuda: Hamilton
• Bolivia: La Paz | Español
• Brazil: Brasilia | Português
• Brazil: Rio de Janeiro | Português
• Brazil: Recife | Português
• Brazil: São Paulo | Português
• Canada: Ottawa
• Canada: Calgary
• Canada: Halifax
• Canada: Montreal
• Canada: Quebec
• Canada: Toronto
• Canada: Vancouver
• Canada: Winnipeg
• Chile: Santiago | Español
• Colombia: Bogota | Español
• Costa Rica: San Jose
• Cuba: U.S. Interests Section | Español
• Dominican Republic: Santo Domingo| Español
• Ecuador: Quito | Español
• Ecuador: Guayaquil | Español
• El Salvador: San Salvador | Español
• Guatemala: Guatemala City | Español
• Guatemala: VPP Xela
• Guyana: Georgetown
• Haiti: Port-au-Prince | Français
• Honduras: Tegucigalpa | Español
• Honduras: VPP San Pedro Sula | Español
• Jamaica: Kingston
• Mexico: Mexico City | Español
• Mexico: Ciudad Juarez | Español
• Mexico: Guadalajara | Español
• Mexico: Hermosillo | Español
• Mexico: Matamoros | Español
• Mexico: Merida | Español
• Mexico: Monterrey | Español
• Mexico: Nogales | Español
• Mexico: Nuevo Laredo
• Mexico: Puerto Vallarta
• Mexico: Tijuana | Español
• Mexico: VPP El Bajio | Español
• Mexico: VPP Chiapas-Tabasco | Español
• Netherlands Antilles: Curacao
• Nicaragua: Managua | Español
• Panama: Panama City | Español
• Paraguay: Asuncion | Español
• Peru: Lima | Español
• Suriname: Paramaribo
• Trinidad & Tobago: Port of Spain
• Uruguay: Montevideo | Español
• Venezuela: Caracas | Español
• U.S. Mission to the ICAO
• U.S. Mission to the OAS
• U.S. Mission to the U.N.-New York

EAST ASIA AND PACIFIC

• Australia: Canberra
• Australia: Melbourne
• Australia: Perth
• Australia: Sydney
• Brunei: Bandar Seri Begawan
• Burma: Rangoon
• Cambodia: Phnom Penh | Khmer
• China: Beijing | ä¸*文版
• China: Chengdu | ä¸*文版
• China: Guangzhou | ä¸*文版
• China: Shanghai | ä¸*文版
• China: Shenyang | ä¸*文版
• China: Wuhan | ä¸*文版
• China: VPP Kunming | ä¸*文版
• China: VPP Lhasa | ä¸*文版 | Tibetan
• China: VPP Zhengzhou (ä¸*文版)
• Fiji: Suva
• Fiji: VPP Tonga
• Hong Kong and Macau | ä¸*文版
• Indonesia: Jakarta | Bahasa
• Indonesia: Surabaya
• Indonesia: APP Medan | Bahasa
• Japan: Tokyo | 日本語
• Japan: Fukuoka | 日本語
• Japan: Nagoya | 日本語
• Japan: Osaka/Kobe | 日本語
• Japan: Sapporo | 日本語
• Japan: Naha, Okinawa | 日本語
• Korea: Seoul | í•œêµ*ì–´
• Korea: Busan | í•œêµ*ì–´
• Laos: Vientiane
• Malaysia: Kuala Lumpur | Bahasa Malaysia
• Republic of the Marshall Islands:
Majuro
• Federated States of Micronesia:
Kolonia
• Mongolia: Ulaanbaatar | МОНГОЛ
• New Zealand: Wellington
• Papua New Guinea: Port Moresby
• Republic of Palau: Koror
• Philippines: Manila
• Philippines: VPP Mindanao
• Samoa: Apia
• Singapore
• Thailand: Bangkok | ภาษาไทย
• Thailand: Chiang Mai
• Timor-Leste: Dili
• Vietnam: Hanoi | Tièng Viêt
• Vietnam: Ho Chi Minh City | Tièng Viêt
• U.S. Mission to ASEAN
• Taiwan**


EUROPE AND EURASIA

• Albania: Tirana | Shqip
• Armenia: Yerevan | Õ€Õ¡ÕµÕ¥Ö€Õ¥Õ¶
• Austria: Vienna | Deutsch
• Azerbaijan: Baku | Azeri
• Belarus: Minsk | па-беларуску
• Belgium: Brussels | Français | Nederlands
• Bosnia & Herzegovina: Sarajevo | B/H/S
• Bulgaria: Sofia | Български
• Croatia: Zagreb | Hrvatski
• Cyprus: Nicosia
• Czech Republic: Prague | česky
• Denmark: Copenhagen
• Denmark-Greenland: VPP Nuuk
• Estonia: Tallinn | Eesti keeles | Pycckuú
• Finland: Helsinki | Finnish
• France: Paris | Français
• France: Bordeaux | Français
• France: Lille
• France: Lyon | Français
• France: Rennes | Français
• France: Toulouse | Français
• France: Marseille | Français
• France: Strasbourg | Français
• France: VPP Monaco
• Georgia: Tbilisi | ქართულად
• Germany: Berlin | Deutsch
• Germany: Düsseldorf | Deutsch
• Germany: Frankfurt | Deutsch
• Germany: Hamburg | Deutsch
• Germany: Leipzig | Deutsch
• Germany: Munich | Deutsch
• Greece: Athens
• Greece: Thessaloniki
• Hungary: Budapest | Magyarul
• Iceland: Reykjavik
• Ireland: Dublin
• Italy: Rome | Italiano
• Italy: Florence | Italiano
• Italy: Milan | Italiano
• Italy: Naples | Italiano
• Italy: VPP San Marino
• Kosovo: Pristina | Shqip | Srpski
• Latvia: Riga | Latviski | Pycckuú
• Lithuania: Vilnius
• Luxembourg
• Macedonia: Skopje | Shqip | Македонски
• Malta: Valletta
• Moldova: Chisinau | Română | Pycckuú
• Montenegro: Podgorica
• The Netherlands: The Hague
• The Netherlands: Amsterdam
• Norway: Oslo
• Poland: Warsaw | Polski
• Poland: Krakow | Polski
• Portugal: Lisbon | Português
• Portugal: Ponta Delgada, Azores | Português
• Romania: Bucharest
• Russia: Moscow | Pycckuú
• Russia: St. Petersburg | Pycckuú
• Russia: Vladivostok | Pycckuú
• Russia: Yekaterinburg | Pycckuú
• Serbia: Belgrade | Srpski
• Slovakia: Bratislava | Slovenská
• Slovenia: Ljubljana
• Spain: Madrid | Español
• Spain: Barcelona | Español | Catalá
• Sweden: Stockholm
• Switzerland: Bern
• Switzerland: VPP Liechtenstein
• Turkey: Ankara | Türkçe
• Turkey: Adana
• Turkey: Istanbul
• Ukraine: Kyiv | Українська
• United Kingdom: London
• United Kingdom: Belfast
• United Kingdom: Edinburgh
• United Kingdom: VPP Cardiff
• The Vatican
• U.S. Mission to International
Organizations in Vienna
• U.S. Mission to the EU
• U.S. Mission to NATO
• U.S. Mission to the OECD
• U.S. Mission to the OSCE | Pycckuú
• U.S. Mission to the UN-Geneva
• U.S. Mission to the UN-Rome
• U.S. Mission to UNESCO



MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA

• Algeria: Algiers | Français | عربي
• Bahrain: Manama
• Egypt: Cairo
• Egypt: APP Alexandria
• Iran: Virtual Embassy Tehran | فارسی
• Iraq: Baghdad | عربي
• Iraq: Basrah
• Iraq: Erbil
• Iraq: Kirkuk
• Israel: Tel Aviv
• Jerusalem | عربي
• VPP Gaza | عربي
• Jordan: Amman | عربي
• Kuwait: Kuwait City | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Lebanon: Beirut | عربي
• Libya: Tripoli | عربي
• Morocco: Rabat | Français
• Morocco: Casablanca
• Oman: Muscat | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Qatar: Doha | عربي
• Saudi Arabia: Riyadh | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Saudi Arabia: Dhahran
• Saudi Arabia: Jeddah | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Syria: Damascus | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Tunisia: Tunis | Français | عربي
• United Arab Emirates: Abu Dhabi
• United Arab Emirates: Dubai
• Yemen: Sana'a | الصفØ*Ø© العربية

CENTRAL AND SOUTH ASIA

• Afghanistan: Kabul | دری | پشتو
• Bangladesh: Dhaka
• Bangladesh: VPP Chittagong
• Bangladesh: VPP Jessore
• Bangladesh: VPP Sylhet
• India: New Delhi
• India: Chennai
• India: Hyderabad
• India: Kolkata
• India: Mumbai
• India: VPP Bangalore
• Kazakhstan: Astana | Русский | Қазақша
• Kazakhstan: Almaty | Русский
• Kyrgyz Republic: Bishkek | Кыргызча | Русский
• Nepal: Kathmandu
• Pakistan: Islamabad
• Pakistan: Karachi
• Pakistan: Lahore
• Pakistan: Peshawar
• Sri Lanka: Colombo
• Sri Lanka: VPP Maldives
• Tajikistan: Dushanbe | Русский
• Turkmenistan: Ashgabat | Türkmen dilinde | Русский
• Uzbekistan: Tashkent | Русский | O'zbekcha

I know what you're thinking....Al Queda can't attack in some of those places. It's not like they ever did anything in London or New York or any place like that.






There was a Marine FAST detachment less than an hour away. They were primed and ready to go, and they would have quite handily done the job. Your attempt at confusing the issue fails.

Yes, there are a lot of missions in the area, buty fortunately we no longer live in the age of sail, so MOST of those missions you listed are reachable within two hours from the quick reaction forces that are based in the Med and Diego Garcia etc.
 
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If those embassies ask for extra security, like Benghazi did, then that extra security should be provided.

The Current State Department decided, for whatever reason, not to send extra security.

Thats the reason those four good men are dead. Not what could happen at some other embassy or consulate.

Thats the fact. The State Department dropped the ball. They are the reason those four good men are dead. No extra security was provided when it should have been.

No one will be held accountable and none of those fat assed desk jockeys will lose their jobs.

To bad they weren't the ones in that consulate. Doubt I would shed a tear for any of em.

Chris Stevens was picked by Barack Hussein Obama, the right's evil incarnate. I am sure your tears are real, and I am sure if it were 'those fat assed desk jockeys' you wouldn't make their lives a political football...

NOT

Evil incarnate?? Nope. Just uncaring and disgusting.

He was more interested in flying off to Vegas for his fundraiser than an attack on his consulate in Libya. and four dead men.He had his priorities.

I doubt any of those fat assed desk jockeys will ever be anywhere where they would be depending on the State Department to bale them out becuase they know full well how that they sure as shit won't be getting any help.
 
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If those embassies ask for extra security, like Benghazi did, then that extra security should be provided.

I'll agree with that to an extent. Also, Benghazi was not the embassy site, it was a consulate.


The Current State Department decided, for whatever reason, not to send extra security.

Thats the reason those four good men are dead. Not what could happen at some other embassy or consulate.
Bullshit.

They're dead because they were attacked. Had a Beirut style truck bomb been used, we'd just have mroe dead people.

This is where the right wing hate machine goes off the rails every fucking time....If A then B. Equating the dead State department officials to actions taken weeks and months earlier is like saying the cheeseburger you ate in May is the reason you had the stroke in January.

Thats the fact. The State Department dropped the ball. They are the reason those four good men are dead. No extra security was provided when it should have been.
No, that is the bloodlust of the right wing.

No one will be held accountable and none of those fat assed desk jockeys will lose their jobs.

To bad they weren't the ones in that consulate. Doubt I would shed a tear for any of em.

I agree with that...your seething hatred prevents you from thinking clearly as this post indicates.






I don't see "seething hatred". I see justifiable outrage that a act of war was perpetrated on the US and that four US personnel died, apparently needlessly. That there was a attempted coverup of the facts, that we the people were continuously lied to and that because of a corrupt administration there will be no real investigation or even attempt to hold the wrongdoers accountable.

Your pathetic attempt to obfuscate and justify the behavior of the admin merely marks you as a apologist for the government.
 
The difference is very important. Without knowing the whole story you can NEVER make sure it doesn't happen again....capice?

Oh...okay so we should do what exactly to make sure it "doesn't happen again"? 24/7 Combat air patrol over our embassies.. A few armored pieces inside the compounds.... a company of marines at each location....Harrier jump jets ready to take off...or the idea you guys had a of an AC-130 for crowd control (great idea there).

Here is a list:
AFRICA

• Africa Regional Services - Paris
• Angola: Luanda | Português
• Benin: Cotonou
• Botswana: Gaborone
• Burkina Faso: Ouagadougou | Français
• Burundi: Bujumbura
• Cameroon: Yaounde | Français
• Cameroon: VPP Septentrion
• Cape Verde: Praia | Português
• Central African Republic: Bangui
• Chad: N'Djamena | Français
• Democratic Republic of the Congo:
Kinshasa | Français
• Republic of the Congo: Brazzaville | Français
• Côte d’Ivoire: Abidjan | Français
• Republic of Djibouti: Djibouti
• Equatorial Guinea: Malabo
• Eritrea: Asmara
• Ethiopia: Addis Ababa
• Gabon: Libreville
• Ghana: Accra
• Guinea: Conakry | Français
• Guinea-Bissau VPP
• Kenya: Nairobi
• Lesotho: Maseru
• Liberia: Monrovia
• Madagascar: Antananarivo
• Malawi: Lilongwe
• Mali: Bamako | Français
• Mauritania: Nouakchott | Français | عربي
• Mauritius: Port Louis
• Mauritius: VPP Seychelles
• Mozambique: Maputo | Portuguese
• Namibia: Windhoek
• Niger: Niamey
• Nigeria: Abuja
• Rwanda: Kigali
• Senegal: Dakar | Français
• Sierra Leone: Freetown
• Somalia: VPP Somalia
• South Africa: Pretoria
• South Sudan: Juba
• Sudan: Khartoum
• Swaziland: Mbabane
• Tanzania: Dar es Salaam
• Tanzania: VPP Zanzibar
• The Gambia: Banjul
• Togo: Lome
• Uganda: Kampala
• Zambia: Lusaka
• Zimbabwe: Harare
• U.S. Mission to the African Union
• U.S. Mission to the UN Environmental Program
(UNEP)


THE AMERICAS

• Argentina: Buenos Aires | Español
• Bahamas: Nassau
• Barbados: Bridgetown
• Belize: Belmopan
• Bermuda: Hamilton
• Bolivia: La Paz | Español
• Brazil: Brasilia | Português
• Brazil: Rio de Janeiro | Português
• Brazil: Recife | Português
• Brazil: São Paulo | Português
• Canada: Ottawa
• Canada: Calgary
• Canada: Halifax
• Canada: Montreal
• Canada: Quebec
• Canada: Toronto
• Canada: Vancouver
• Canada: Winnipeg
• Chile: Santiago | Español
• Colombia: Bogota | Español
• Costa Rica: San Jose
• Cuba: U.S. Interests Section | Español
• Dominican Republic: Santo Domingo| Español
• Ecuador: Quito | Español
• Ecuador: Guayaquil | Español
• El Salvador: San Salvador | Español
• Guatemala: Guatemala City | Español
• Guatemala: VPP Xela
• Guyana: Georgetown
• Haiti: Port-au-Prince | Français
• Honduras: Tegucigalpa | Español
• Honduras: VPP San Pedro Sula | Español
• Jamaica: Kingston
• Mexico: Mexico City | Español
• Mexico: Ciudad Juarez | Español
• Mexico: Guadalajara | Español
• Mexico: Hermosillo | Español
• Mexico: Matamoros | Español
• Mexico: Merida | Español
• Mexico: Monterrey | Español
• Mexico: Nogales | Español
• Mexico: Nuevo Laredo
• Mexico: Puerto Vallarta
• Mexico: Tijuana | Español
• Mexico: VPP El Bajio | Español
• Mexico: VPP Chiapas-Tabasco | Español
• Netherlands Antilles: Curacao
• Nicaragua: Managua | Español
• Panama: Panama City | Español
• Paraguay: Asuncion | Español
• Peru: Lima | Español
• Suriname: Paramaribo
• Trinidad & Tobago: Port of Spain
• Uruguay: Montevideo | Español
• Venezuela: Caracas | Español
• U.S. Mission to the ICAO
• U.S. Mission to the OAS
• U.S. Mission to the U.N.-New York

EAST ASIA AND PACIFIC

• Australia: Canberra
• Australia: Melbourne
• Australia: Perth
• Australia: Sydney
• Brunei: Bandar Seri Begawan
• Burma: Rangoon
• Cambodia: Phnom Penh | Khmer
• China: Beijing | ä¸*文版
• China: Chengdu | ä¸*文版
• China: Guangzhou | ä¸*文版
• China: Shanghai | ä¸*文版
• China: Shenyang | ä¸*文版
• China: Wuhan | ä¸*文版
• China: VPP Kunming | ä¸*文版
• China: VPP Lhasa | ä¸*文版 | Tibetan
• China: VPP Zhengzhou (ä¸*文版)
• Fiji: Suva
• Fiji: VPP Tonga
• Hong Kong and Macau | ä¸*文版
• Indonesia: Jakarta | Bahasa
• Indonesia: Surabaya
• Indonesia: APP Medan | Bahasa
• Japan: Tokyo | 日本語
• Japan: Fukuoka | 日本語
• Japan: Nagoya | 日本語
• Japan: Osaka/Kobe | 日本語
• Japan: Sapporo | 日本語
• Japan: Naha, Okinawa | 日本語
• Korea: Seoul | 한êµ*어
• Korea: Busan | 한êµ*어
• Laos: Vientiane
• Malaysia: Kuala Lumpur | Bahasa Malaysia
• Republic of the Marshall Islands:
Majuro
• Federated States of Micronesia:
Kolonia
• Mongolia: Ulaanbaatar | МОНГОЛ
• New Zealand: Wellington
• Papua New Guinea: Port Moresby
• Republic of Palau: Koror
• Philippines: Manila
• Philippines: VPP Mindanao
• Samoa: Apia
• Singapore
• Thailand: Bangkok | ภาษาไทย
• Thailand: Chiang Mai
• Timor-Leste: Dili
• Vietnam: Hanoi | Tièng Viêt
• Vietnam: Ho Chi Minh City | Tièng Viêt
• U.S. Mission to ASEAN
• Taiwan**


EUROPE AND EURASIA

• Albania: Tirana | Shqip
• Armenia: Yerevan | Հայերեն
• Austria: Vienna | Deutsch
• Azerbaijan: Baku | Azeri
• Belarus: Minsk | па-беларуску
• Belgium: Brussels | Français | Nederlands
• Bosnia & Herzegovina: Sarajevo | B/H/S
• Bulgaria: Sofia | Български
• Croatia: Zagreb | Hrvatski
• Cyprus: Nicosia
• Czech Republic: Prague | česky
• Denmark: Copenhagen
• Denmark-Greenland: VPP Nuuk
• Estonia: Tallinn | Eesti keeles | Pycckuú
• Finland: Helsinki | Finnish
• France: Paris | Français
• France: Bordeaux | Français
• France: Lille
• France: Lyon | Français
• France: Rennes | Français
• France: Toulouse | Français
• France: Marseille | Français
• France: Strasbourg | Français
• France: VPP Monaco
• Georgia: Tbilisi | ქართულად
• Germany: Berlin | Deutsch
• Germany: Düsseldorf | Deutsch
• Germany: Frankfurt | Deutsch
• Germany: Hamburg | Deutsch
• Germany: Leipzig | Deutsch
• Germany: Munich | Deutsch
• Greece: Athens
• Greece: Thessaloniki
• Hungary: Budapest | Magyarul
• Iceland: Reykjavik
• Ireland: Dublin
• Italy: Rome | Italiano
• Italy: Florence | Italiano
• Italy: Milan | Italiano
• Italy: Naples | Italiano
• Italy: VPP San Marino
• Kosovo: Pristina | Shqip | Srpski
• Latvia: Riga | Latviski | Pycckuú
• Lithuania: Vilnius
• Luxembourg
• Macedonia: Skopje | Shqip | Македонски
• Malta: Valletta
• Moldova: Chisinau | Română | Pycckuú
• Montenegro: Podgorica
• The Netherlands: The Hague
• The Netherlands: Amsterdam
• Norway: Oslo
• Poland: Warsaw | Polski
• Poland: Krakow | Polski
• Portugal: Lisbon | Português
• Portugal: Ponta Delgada, Azores | Português
• Romania: Bucharest
• Russia: Moscow | Pycckuú
• Russia: St. Petersburg | Pycckuú
• Russia: Vladivostok | Pycckuú
• Russia: Yekaterinburg | Pycckuú
• Serbia: Belgrade | Srpski
• Slovakia: Bratislava | Slovenská
• Slovenia: Ljubljana
• Spain: Madrid | Español
• Spain: Barcelona | Español | Catalá
• Sweden: Stockholm
• Switzerland: Bern
• Switzerland: VPP Liechtenstein
• Turkey: Ankara | Türkçe
• Turkey: Adana
• Turkey: Istanbul
• Ukraine: Kyiv | Українська
• United Kingdom: London
• United Kingdom: Belfast
• United Kingdom: Edinburgh
• United Kingdom: VPP Cardiff
• The Vatican
• U.S. Mission to International
Organizations in Vienna
• U.S. Mission to the EU
• U.S. Mission to NATO
• U.S. Mission to the OECD
• U.S. Mission to the OSCE | Pycckuú
• U.S. Mission to the UN-Geneva
• U.S. Mission to the UN-Rome
• U.S. Mission to UNESCO



MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA

• Algeria: Algiers | Français | عربي
• Bahrain: Manama
• Egypt: Cairo
• Egypt: APP Alexandria
• Iran: Virtual Embassy Tehran | فارسی
• Iraq: Baghdad | عربي
• Iraq: Basrah
• Iraq: Erbil
• Iraq: Kirkuk
• Israel: Tel Aviv
• Jerusalem | عربي
• VPP Gaza | عربي
• Jordan: Amman | عربي
• Kuwait: Kuwait City | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Lebanon: Beirut | عربي
• Libya: Tripoli | عربي
• Morocco: Rabat | Français
• Morocco: Casablanca
• Oman: Muscat | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Qatar: Doha | عربي
• Saudi Arabia: Riyadh | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Saudi Arabia: Dhahran
• Saudi Arabia: Jeddah | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Syria: Damascus | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Tunisia: Tunis | Français | عربي
• United Arab Emirates: Abu Dhabi
• United Arab Emirates: Dubai
• Yemen: Sana'a | الصفØ*Ø© العربية

CENTRAL AND SOUTH ASIA

• Afghanistan: Kabul | دری | پشتو
• Bangladesh: Dhaka
• Bangladesh: VPP Chittagong
• Bangladesh: VPP Jessore
• Bangladesh: VPP Sylhet
• India: New Delhi
• India: Chennai
• India: Hyderabad
• India: Kolkata
• India: Mumbai
• India: VPP Bangalore
• Kazakhstan: Astana | Русский | Қазақша
• Kazakhstan: Almaty | Русский
• Kyrgyz Republic: Bishkek | Кыргызча | Русский
• Nepal: Kathmandu
• Pakistan: Islamabad
• Pakistan: Karachi
• Pakistan: Lahore
• Pakistan: Peshawar
• Sri Lanka: Colombo
• Sri Lanka: VPP Maldives
• Tajikistan: Dushanbe | Русский
• Turkmenistan: Ashgabat | Türkmen dilinde | Русский
• Uzbekistan: Tashkent | Русский | O'zbekcha

I know what you're thinking....Al Queda can't attack in some of those places. It's not like they ever did anything in London or New York or any place like that.






There was Marine FAST detachment less than an hour away. They were primed and ready to go, and they would have quite handily done the job. Your attempt at confusing the issue fails.

Yes, there are a lot of missions in the area, buty fortunately we no longer live in the age of sail, so MOST of those missions you listed are reachable within two hours from the quick reaction forces that are based in the Med and Diego Garcia etc.

She doesn't want to hear that my friend. All she wants to do is defend that fuck and his State Department and tell us that they were dead no matter what.

Apparantly she has very little faith in our armed services. Armed services that have been fighting these dirtbags since 9-11.
 
Oh...okay so we should do what exactly to make sure it "doesn't happen again"? 24/7 Combat air patrol over our embassies.. A few armored pieces inside the compounds.... a company of marines at each location....Harrier jump jets ready to take off...or the idea you guys had a of an AC-130 for crowd control (great idea there).

Here is a list:
AFRICA

• Africa Regional Services - Paris
• Angola: Luanda | Português
• Benin: Cotonou
• Botswana: Gaborone
• Burkina Faso: Ouagadougou | Français
• Burundi: Bujumbura
• Cameroon: Yaounde | Français
• Cameroon: VPP Septentrion
• Cape Verde: Praia | Português
• Central African Republic: Bangui
• Chad: N'Djamena | Français
• Democratic Republic of the Congo:
Kinshasa | Français
• Republic of the Congo: Brazzaville | Français
• Côte d’Ivoire: Abidjan | Français
• Republic of Djibouti: Djibouti
• Equatorial Guinea: Malabo
• Eritrea: Asmara
• Ethiopia: Addis Ababa
• Gabon: Libreville
• Ghana: Accra
• Guinea: Conakry | Français
• Guinea-Bissau VPP
• Kenya: Nairobi
• Lesotho: Maseru
• Liberia: Monrovia
• Madagascar: Antananarivo
• Malawi: Lilongwe
• Mali: Bamako | Français
• Mauritania: Nouakchott | Français | عربي
• Mauritius: Port Louis
• Mauritius: VPP Seychelles
• Mozambique: Maputo | Portuguese
• Namibia: Windhoek
• Niger: Niamey
• Nigeria: Abuja
• Rwanda: Kigali
• Senegal: Dakar | Français
• Sierra Leone: Freetown
• Somalia: VPP Somalia
• South Africa: Pretoria
• South Sudan: Juba
• Sudan: Khartoum
• Swaziland: Mbabane
• Tanzania: Dar es Salaam
• Tanzania: VPP Zanzibar
• The Gambia: Banjul
• Togo: Lome
• Uganda: Kampala
• Zambia: Lusaka
• Zimbabwe: Harare
• U.S. Mission to the African Union
• U.S. Mission to the UN Environmental Program
(UNEP)


THE AMERICAS

• Argentina: Buenos Aires | Español
• Bahamas: Nassau
• Barbados: Bridgetown
• Belize: Belmopan
• Bermuda: Hamilton
• Bolivia: La Paz | Español
• Brazil: Brasilia | Português
• Brazil: Rio de Janeiro | Português
• Brazil: Recife | Português
• Brazil: São Paulo | Português
• Canada: Ottawa
• Canada: Calgary
• Canada: Halifax
• Canada: Montreal
• Canada: Quebec
• Canada: Toronto
• Canada: Vancouver
• Canada: Winnipeg
• Chile: Santiago | Español
• Colombia: Bogota | Español
• Costa Rica: San Jose
• Cuba: U.S. Interests Section | Español
• Dominican Republic: Santo Domingo| Español
• Ecuador: Quito | Español
• Ecuador: Guayaquil | Español
• El Salvador: San Salvador | Español
• Guatemala: Guatemala City | Español
• Guatemala: VPP Xela
• Guyana: Georgetown
• Haiti: Port-au-Prince | Français
• Honduras: Tegucigalpa | Español
• Honduras: VPP San Pedro Sula | Español
• Jamaica: Kingston
• Mexico: Mexico City | Español
• Mexico: Ciudad Juarez | Español
• Mexico: Guadalajara | Español
• Mexico: Hermosillo | Español
• Mexico: Matamoros | Español
• Mexico: Merida | Español
• Mexico: Monterrey | Español
• Mexico: Nogales | Español
• Mexico: Nuevo Laredo
• Mexico: Puerto Vallarta
• Mexico: Tijuana | Español
• Mexico: VPP El Bajio | Español
• Mexico: VPP Chiapas-Tabasco | Español
• Netherlands Antilles: Curacao
• Nicaragua: Managua | Español
• Panama: Panama City | Español
• Paraguay: Asuncion | Español
• Peru: Lima | Español
• Suriname: Paramaribo
• Trinidad & Tobago: Port of Spain
• Uruguay: Montevideo | Español
• Venezuela: Caracas | Español
• U.S. Mission to the ICAO
• U.S. Mission to the OAS
• U.S. Mission to the U.N.-New York

EAST ASIA AND PACIFIC

• Australia: Canberra
• Australia: Melbourne
• Australia: Perth
• Australia: Sydney
• Brunei: Bandar Seri Begawan
• Burma: Rangoon
• Cambodia: Phnom Penh | Khmer
• China: Beijing | ä¸*文版
• China: Chengdu | ä¸*文版
• China: Guangzhou | ä¸*文版
• China: Shanghai | ä¸*文版
• China: Shenyang | ä¸*文版
• China: Wuhan | ä¸*文版
• China: VPP Kunming | ä¸*文版
• China: VPP Lhasa | ä¸*文版 | Tibetan
• China: VPP Zhengzhou (ä¸*文版)
• Fiji: Suva
• Fiji: VPP Tonga
• Hong Kong and Macau | ä¸*文版
• Indonesia: Jakarta | Bahasa
• Indonesia: Surabaya
• Indonesia: APP Medan | Bahasa
• Japan: Tokyo | 日本語
• Japan: Fukuoka | 日本語
• Japan: Nagoya | 日本語
• Japan: Osaka/Kobe | 日本語
• Japan: Sapporo | 日本語
• Japan: Naha, Okinawa | 日本語
• Korea: Seoul | 한êµ*어
• Korea: Busan | 한êµ*어
• Laos: Vientiane
• Malaysia: Kuala Lumpur | Bahasa Malaysia
• Republic of the Marshall Islands:
Majuro
• Federated States of Micronesia:
Kolonia
• Mongolia: Ulaanbaatar | МОНГОЛ
• New Zealand: Wellington
• Papua New Guinea: Port Moresby
• Republic of Palau: Koror
• Philippines: Manila
• Philippines: VPP Mindanao
• Samoa: Apia
• Singapore
• Thailand: Bangkok | ภาษาไทย
• Thailand: Chiang Mai
• Timor-Leste: Dili
• Vietnam: Hanoi | Tièng Viêt
• Vietnam: Ho Chi Minh City | Tièng Viêt
• U.S. Mission to ASEAN
• Taiwan**


EUROPE AND EURASIA

• Albania: Tirana | Shqip
• Armenia: Yerevan | Հայերեն
• Austria: Vienna | Deutsch
• Azerbaijan: Baku | Azeri
• Belarus: Minsk | па-беларуску
• Belgium: Brussels | Français | Nederlands
• Bosnia & Herzegovina: Sarajevo | B/H/S
• Bulgaria: Sofia | Български
• Croatia: Zagreb | Hrvatski
• Cyprus: Nicosia
• Czech Republic: Prague | česky
• Denmark: Copenhagen
• Denmark-Greenland: VPP Nuuk
• Estonia: Tallinn | Eesti keeles | Pycckuú
• Finland: Helsinki | Finnish
• France: Paris | Français
• France: Bordeaux | Français
• France: Lille
• France: Lyon | Français
• France: Rennes | Français
• France: Toulouse | Français
• France: Marseille | Français
• France: Strasbourg | Français
• France: VPP Monaco
• Georgia: Tbilisi | ქართულად
• Germany: Berlin | Deutsch
• Germany: Düsseldorf | Deutsch
• Germany: Frankfurt | Deutsch
• Germany: Hamburg | Deutsch
• Germany: Leipzig | Deutsch
• Germany: Munich | Deutsch
• Greece: Athens
• Greece: Thessaloniki
• Hungary: Budapest | Magyarul
• Iceland: Reykjavik
• Ireland: Dublin
• Italy: Rome | Italiano
• Italy: Florence | Italiano
• Italy: Milan | Italiano
• Italy: Naples | Italiano
• Italy: VPP San Marino
• Kosovo: Pristina | Shqip | Srpski
• Latvia: Riga | Latviski | Pycckuú
• Lithuania: Vilnius
• Luxembourg
• Macedonia: Skopje | Shqip | Македонски
• Malta: Valletta
• Moldova: Chisinau | Română | Pycckuú
• Montenegro: Podgorica
• The Netherlands: The Hague
• The Netherlands: Amsterdam
• Norway: Oslo
• Poland: Warsaw | Polski
• Poland: Krakow | Polski
• Portugal: Lisbon | Português
• Portugal: Ponta Delgada, Azores | Português
• Romania: Bucharest
• Russia: Moscow | Pycckuú
• Russia: St. Petersburg | Pycckuú
• Russia: Vladivostok | Pycckuú
• Russia: Yekaterinburg | Pycckuú
• Serbia: Belgrade | Srpski
• Slovakia: Bratislava | Slovenská
• Slovenia: Ljubljana
• Spain: Madrid | Español
• Spain: Barcelona | Español | Catalá
• Sweden: Stockholm
• Switzerland: Bern
• Switzerland: VPP Liechtenstein
• Turkey: Ankara | Türkçe
• Turkey: Adana
• Turkey: Istanbul
• Ukraine: Kyiv | Українська
• United Kingdom: London
• United Kingdom: Belfast
• United Kingdom: Edinburgh
• United Kingdom: VPP Cardiff
• The Vatican
• U.S. Mission to International
Organizations in Vienna
• U.S. Mission to the EU
• U.S. Mission to NATO
• U.S. Mission to the OECD
• U.S. Mission to the OSCE | Pycckuú
• U.S. Mission to the UN-Geneva
• U.S. Mission to the UN-Rome
• U.S. Mission to UNESCO



MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA

• Algeria: Algiers | Français | عربي
• Bahrain: Manama
• Egypt: Cairo
• Egypt: APP Alexandria
• Iran: Virtual Embassy Tehran | فارسی
• Iraq: Baghdad | عربي
• Iraq: Basrah
• Iraq: Erbil
• Iraq: Kirkuk
• Israel: Tel Aviv
• Jerusalem | عربي
• VPP Gaza | عربي
• Jordan: Amman | عربي
• Kuwait: Kuwait City | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Lebanon: Beirut | عربي
• Libya: Tripoli | عربي
• Morocco: Rabat | Français
• Morocco: Casablanca
• Oman: Muscat | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Qatar: Doha | عربي
• Saudi Arabia: Riyadh | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Saudi Arabia: Dhahran
• Saudi Arabia: Jeddah | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Syria: Damascus | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Tunisia: Tunis | Français | عربي
• United Arab Emirates: Abu Dhabi
• United Arab Emirates: Dubai
• Yemen: Sana'a | الصفØ*Ø© العربية

CENTRAL AND SOUTH ASIA

• Afghanistan: Kabul | دری | پشتو
• Bangladesh: Dhaka
• Bangladesh: VPP Chittagong
• Bangladesh: VPP Jessore
• Bangladesh: VPP Sylhet
• India: New Delhi
• India: Chennai
• India: Hyderabad
• India: Kolkata
• India: Mumbai
• India: VPP Bangalore
• Kazakhstan: Astana | Русский | Қазақша
• Kazakhstan: Almaty | Русский
• Kyrgyz Republic: Bishkek | Кыргызча | Русский
• Nepal: Kathmandu
• Pakistan: Islamabad
• Pakistan: Karachi
• Pakistan: Lahore
• Pakistan: Peshawar
• Sri Lanka: Colombo
• Sri Lanka: VPP Maldives
• Tajikistan: Dushanbe | Русский
• Turkmenistan: Ashgabat | Türkmen dilinde | Русский
• Uzbekistan: Tashkent | Русский | O'zbekcha

I know what you're thinking....Al Queda can't attack in some of those places. It's not like they ever did anything in London or New York or any place like that.






There was Marine FAST detachment less than an hour away. They were primed and ready to go, and they would have quite handily done the job. Your attempt at confusing the issue fails.

Yes, there are a lot of missions in the area, buty fortunately we no longer live in the age of sail, so MOST of those missions you listed are reachable within two hours from the quick reaction forces that are based in the Med and Diego Garcia etc.

She doesn't want to hear that my friend. All she wants to do is defend that fuck and his State Department and tell us that they were dead no matter what.

Apparantly she has very little faith in our armed services. Armed services that have been fighting these dirtbags since 9-11.





Oh, I think she's more nefarious than that my friend...
 
If those embassies ask for extra security, like Benghazi did, then that extra security should be provided.

I'll agree with that to an extent. Also, Benghazi was not the embassy site, it was a consulate.



Bullshit.

They're dead because they were attacked. Had a Beirut style truck bomb been used, we'd just have mroe dead people.

This is where the right wing hate machine goes off the rails every fucking time....If A then B. Equating the dead State department officials to actions taken weeks and months earlier is like saying the cheeseburger you ate in May is the reason you had the stroke in January.


No, that is the bloodlust of the right wing.

No one will be held accountable and none of those fat assed desk jockeys will lose their jobs.

To bad they weren't the ones in that consulate. Doubt I would shed a tear for any of em.

I agree with that...your seething hatred prevents you from thinking clearly as this post indicates.

Yup. They are dead because they were attacked. If they had had that extra security they might still be alive. They would probably been able to defend themselves



Oh so your saying if that extra security were given that they would still be dead?? Nice to know what a fortune teller you are. Along with that extra security was the heads up that something was up. Something they could have defended against.
As much as a fortune teller that you are by claiming they'd still be alive.

Lets say we double the height of the fence, triple the guard. If the terrorist still wanted to wax some Americans...you wait until they leave the compound.

Are you saying that the State Department didn't drop the ball? That they didn't ignore those requests for extra security? That the Ambassador didn't send e-mails for extra security because he had thoughts about an impending attack??
No. I'm saying that hindsight is 2020. In one of our clinics in the bad part of town, my boss installed a security fence that will drop down from the ceiling and seal off the front doors. It's a fence that rolls up into the ceiling and when you press a button saying "down" on a control switch that is located in plain view of those passing through the doors, the thing deploys downward. There are other exits but they are several dozen feet or yards away. I don't like having it there, totally free to be pressed by anyone. If someone were to come into the clinic and want to kill people they could press this button and seal off the main exit (and seal off the main conduit for police support). I've made my case to my boss. Supposedly we're getting a lock-out box to put over it. We've been getting one for about 8 months now.

Here is my point. If the shooting happens tomorrow, you're saying that he is responsible for the deaths that result...right? He's ignored my expert reqeusts for this box. The reason is that there are other priorities. We got pay raises last year. Maybe that was a priority to the lock out box. I now have a laptop to go along with my desktop computer. Maybe that was a priority. My assistant got a new desk chair to support her ailing back. Priority?

I guarantee you that after the shooting, there won't be an easily accessible "down button" anywhere in the nation if the story is told of what happened.

I tend to blame the guy pulling the trigger other than the administrators who have to juggle priorities and competing needs across a broad horizon.

Thats not blood lust from the right. Thats me uttering my absolute disgust for this State Department and the absolute uncaring idiots that are running it.

Seething hatred?? Bullshit. Absolute disgust that those four men depended on Barry, Hillary and their State Department to have the're backs. Something that didnt' happen. Four good men are dead and those idiots are trying to sweep it all under the rug.

Oh and BTW I think pretty darned clearly. I know incompetantance when I see it.

Barry's State Department is apparantly one incompetant outfit.


Ahh, the angry little man syndrome. Have a cookie. Sit down with whats-his-face from South Carolina and cry in your beer.
 
I tried....


but this thread with it's huge long lists of ....

how the heck can anybody follow the rantings and ravings of so many lunatics?

What was this thread about in the first place? A comment Hillary made taken out of context?
 
If those embassies ask for extra security, like Benghazi did, then that extra security should be provided.

I'll agree with that to an extent. Also, Benghazi was not the embassy site, it was a consulate.



Bullshit.

They're dead because they were attacked. Had a Beirut style truck bomb been used, we'd just have mroe dead people.

This is where the right wing hate machine goes off the rails every fucking time....If A then B. Equating the dead State department officials to actions taken weeks and months earlier is like saying the cheeseburger you ate in May is the reason you had the stroke in January.


No, that is the bloodlust of the right wing.

No one will be held accountable and none of those fat assed desk jockeys will lose their jobs.

To bad they weren't the ones in that consulate. Doubt I would shed a tear for any of em.

I agree with that...your seething hatred prevents you from thinking clearly as this post indicates.






I don't see "seething hatred". I see justifiable outrage that a act of war was perpetrated on the US and that four US personnel died, apparently needlessly. That there was a attempted coverup of the facts, that we the people were continuously lied to and that because of a corrupt administration there will be no real investigation or even attempt to hold the wrongdoers accountable.

Your pathetic attempt to obfuscate and justify the behavior of the admin merely marks you as a apologist for the government.

I dobut you see an apology...the guy pulling the trigger is responsible.
 
Not a very informed thread start, even for you. Arms dealing is a critical issue here.

Ambassador Stevens Death may Be Result of Arms Deal Gone Bad | Sure News


Perhaps you should try the cooking or needlepoint forums?

Funny you should say that, I think shallow does both at the same time...

stock-photo--drug-syringe-and-cooked-heroin-on-spoon-117216682.jpg
 
Oh...okay so we should do what exactly to make sure it "doesn't happen again"? 24/7 Combat air patrol over our embassies.. A few armored pieces inside the compounds.... a company of marines at each location....Harrier jump jets ready to take off...or the idea you guys had a of an AC-130 for crowd control (great idea there).

Here is a list:
AFRICA

• Africa Regional Services - Paris
• Angola: Luanda | Português
• Benin: Cotonou
• Botswana: Gaborone
• Burkina Faso: Ouagadougou | Français
• Burundi: Bujumbura
• Cameroon: Yaounde | Français
• Cameroon: VPP Septentrion
• Cape Verde: Praia | Português
• Central African Republic: Bangui
• Chad: N'Djamena | Français
• Democratic Republic of the Congo:
Kinshasa | Français
• Republic of the Congo: Brazzaville | Français
• Côte d’Ivoire: Abidjan | Français
• Republic of Djibouti: Djibouti
• Equatorial Guinea: Malabo
• Eritrea: Asmara
• Ethiopia: Addis Ababa
• Gabon: Libreville
• Ghana: Accra
• Guinea: Conakry | Français
• Guinea-Bissau VPP
• Kenya: Nairobi
• Lesotho: Maseru
• Liberia: Monrovia
• Madagascar: Antananarivo
• Malawi: Lilongwe
• Mali: Bamako | Français
• Mauritania: Nouakchott | Français | عربي
• Mauritius: Port Louis
• Mauritius: VPP Seychelles
• Mozambique: Maputo | Portuguese
• Namibia: Windhoek
• Niger: Niamey
• Nigeria: Abuja
• Rwanda: Kigali
• Senegal: Dakar | Français
• Sierra Leone: Freetown
• Somalia: VPP Somalia
• South Africa: Pretoria
• South Sudan: Juba
• Sudan: Khartoum
• Swaziland: Mbabane
• Tanzania: Dar es Salaam
• Tanzania: VPP Zanzibar
• The Gambia: Banjul
• Togo: Lome
• Uganda: Kampala
• Zambia: Lusaka
• Zimbabwe: Harare
• U.S. Mission to the African Union
• U.S. Mission to the UN Environmental Program
(UNEP)


THE AMERICAS

• Argentina: Buenos Aires | Español
• Bahamas: Nassau
• Barbados: Bridgetown
• Belize: Belmopan
• Bermuda: Hamilton
• Bolivia: La Paz | Español
• Brazil: Brasilia | Português
• Brazil: Rio de Janeiro | Português
• Brazil: Recife | Português
• Brazil: São Paulo | Português
• Canada: Ottawa
• Canada: Calgary
• Canada: Halifax
• Canada: Montreal
• Canada: Quebec
• Canada: Toronto
• Canada: Vancouver
• Canada: Winnipeg
• Chile: Santiago | Español
• Colombia: Bogota | Español
• Costa Rica: San Jose
• Cuba: U.S. Interests Section | Español
• Dominican Republic: Santo Domingo| Español
• Ecuador: Quito | Español
• Ecuador: Guayaquil | Español
• El Salvador: San Salvador | Español
• Guatemala: Guatemala City | Español
• Guatemala: VPP Xela
• Guyana: Georgetown
• Haiti: Port-au-Prince | Français
• Honduras: Tegucigalpa | Español
• Honduras: VPP San Pedro Sula | Español
• Jamaica: Kingston
• Mexico: Mexico City | Español
• Mexico: Ciudad Juarez | Español
• Mexico: Guadalajara | Español
• Mexico: Hermosillo | Español
• Mexico: Matamoros | Español
• Mexico: Merida | Español
• Mexico: Monterrey | Español
• Mexico: Nogales | Español
• Mexico: Nuevo Laredo
• Mexico: Puerto Vallarta
• Mexico: Tijuana | Español
• Mexico: VPP El Bajio | Español
• Mexico: VPP Chiapas-Tabasco | Español
• Netherlands Antilles: Curacao
• Nicaragua: Managua | Español
• Panama: Panama City | Español
• Paraguay: Asuncion | Español
• Peru: Lima | Español
• Suriname: Paramaribo
• Trinidad & Tobago: Port of Spain
• Uruguay: Montevideo | Español
• Venezuela: Caracas | Español
• U.S. Mission to the ICAO
• U.S. Mission to the OAS
• U.S. Mission to the U.N.-New York

EAST ASIA AND PACIFIC

• Australia: Canberra
• Australia: Melbourne
• Australia: Perth
• Australia: Sydney
• Brunei: Bandar Seri Begawan
• Burma: Rangoon
• Cambodia: Phnom Penh | Khmer
• China: Beijing | ä¸*文版
• China: Chengdu | ä¸*文版
• China: Guangzhou | ä¸*文版
• China: Shanghai | ä¸*文版
• China: Shenyang | ä¸*文版
• China: Wuhan | ä¸*文版
• China: VPP Kunming | ä¸*文版
• China: VPP Lhasa | ä¸*文版 | Tibetan
• China: VPP Zhengzhou (ä¸*文版)
• Fiji: Suva
• Fiji: VPP Tonga
• Hong Kong and Macau | ä¸*文版
• Indonesia: Jakarta | Bahasa
• Indonesia: Surabaya
• Indonesia: APP Medan | Bahasa
• Japan: Tokyo | 日本語
• Japan: Fukuoka | 日本語
• Japan: Nagoya | 日本語
• Japan: Osaka/Kobe | 日本語
• Japan: Sapporo | 日本語
• Japan: Naha, Okinawa | 日本語
• Korea: Seoul | í•œêµ*ì–´
• Korea: Busan | í•œêµ*ì–´
• Laos: Vientiane
• Malaysia: Kuala Lumpur | Bahasa Malaysia
• Republic of the Marshall Islands:
Majuro
• Federated States of Micronesia:
Kolonia
• Mongolia: Ulaanbaatar | МОНГОЛ
• New Zealand: Wellington
• Papua New Guinea: Port Moresby
• Republic of Palau: Koror
• Philippines: Manila
• Philippines: VPP Mindanao
• Samoa: Apia
• Singapore
• Thailand: Bangkok | ภาษาไทย
• Thailand: Chiang Mai
• Timor-Leste: Dili
• Vietnam: Hanoi | Tièng Viêt
• Vietnam: Ho Chi Minh City | Tièng Viêt
• U.S. Mission to ASEAN
• Taiwan**


EUROPE AND EURASIA

• Albania: Tirana | Shqip
• Armenia: Yerevan | Õ€Õ¡ÕµÕ¥Ö€Õ¥Õ¶
• Austria: Vienna | Deutsch
• Azerbaijan: Baku | Azeri
• Belarus: Minsk | па-беларуску
• Belgium: Brussels | Français | Nederlands
• Bosnia & Herzegovina: Sarajevo | B/H/S
• Bulgaria: Sofia | Български
• Croatia: Zagreb | Hrvatski
• Cyprus: Nicosia
• Czech Republic: Prague | česky
• Denmark: Copenhagen
• Denmark-Greenland: VPP Nuuk
• Estonia: Tallinn | Eesti keeles | Pycckuú
• Finland: Helsinki | Finnish
• France: Paris | Français
• France: Bordeaux | Français
• France: Lille
• France: Lyon | Français
• France: Rennes | Français
• France: Toulouse | Français
• France: Marseille | Français
• France: Strasbourg | Français
• France: VPP Monaco
• Georgia: Tbilisi | ქართულად
• Germany: Berlin | Deutsch
• Germany: Düsseldorf | Deutsch
• Germany: Frankfurt | Deutsch
• Germany: Hamburg | Deutsch
• Germany: Leipzig | Deutsch
• Germany: Munich | Deutsch
• Greece: Athens
• Greece: Thessaloniki
• Hungary: Budapest | Magyarul
• Iceland: Reykjavik
• Ireland: Dublin
• Italy: Rome | Italiano
• Italy: Florence | Italiano
• Italy: Milan | Italiano
• Italy: Naples | Italiano
• Italy: VPP San Marino
• Kosovo: Pristina | Shqip | Srpski
• Latvia: Riga | Latviski | Pycckuú
• Lithuania: Vilnius
• Luxembourg
• Macedonia: Skopje | Shqip | Македонски
• Malta: Valletta
• Moldova: Chisinau | Română | Pycckuú
• Montenegro: Podgorica
• The Netherlands: The Hague
• The Netherlands: Amsterdam
• Norway: Oslo
• Poland: Warsaw | Polski
• Poland: Krakow | Polski
• Portugal: Lisbon | Português
• Portugal: Ponta Delgada, Azores | Português
• Romania: Bucharest
• Russia: Moscow | Pycckuú
• Russia: St. Petersburg | Pycckuú
• Russia: Vladivostok | Pycckuú
• Russia: Yekaterinburg | Pycckuú
• Serbia: Belgrade | Srpski
• Slovakia: Bratislava | Slovenská
• Slovenia: Ljubljana
• Spain: Madrid | Español
• Spain: Barcelona | Español | Catalá
• Sweden: Stockholm
• Switzerland: Bern
• Switzerland: VPP Liechtenstein
• Turkey: Ankara | Türkçe
• Turkey: Adana
• Turkey: Istanbul
• Ukraine: Kyiv | Українська
• United Kingdom: London
• United Kingdom: Belfast
• United Kingdom: Edinburgh
• United Kingdom: VPP Cardiff
• The Vatican
• U.S. Mission to International
Organizations in Vienna
• U.S. Mission to the EU
• U.S. Mission to NATO
• U.S. Mission to the OECD
• U.S. Mission to the OSCE | Pycckuú
• U.S. Mission to the UN-Geneva
• U.S. Mission to the UN-Rome
• U.S. Mission to UNESCO



MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA

• Algeria: Algiers | Français | عربي
• Bahrain: Manama
• Egypt: Cairo
• Egypt: APP Alexandria
• Iran: Virtual Embassy Tehran | فارسی
• Iraq: Baghdad | عربي
• Iraq: Basrah
• Iraq: Erbil
• Iraq: Kirkuk
• Israel: Tel Aviv
• Jerusalem | عربي
• VPP Gaza | عربي
• Jordan: Amman | عربي
• Kuwait: Kuwait City | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Lebanon: Beirut | عربي
• Libya: Tripoli | عربي
• Morocco: Rabat | Français
• Morocco: Casablanca
• Oman: Muscat | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Qatar: Doha | عربي
• Saudi Arabia: Riyadh | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Saudi Arabia: Dhahran
• Saudi Arabia: Jeddah | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Syria: Damascus | الصفØ*Ø© العربية
• Tunisia: Tunis | Français | عربي
• United Arab Emirates: Abu Dhabi
• United Arab Emirates: Dubai
• Yemen: Sana'a | الصفØ*Ø© العربية

CENTRAL AND SOUTH ASIA

• Afghanistan: Kabul | دری | پشتو
• Bangladesh: Dhaka
• Bangladesh: VPP Chittagong
• Bangladesh: VPP Jessore
• Bangladesh: VPP Sylhet
• India: New Delhi
• India: Chennai
• India: Hyderabad
• India: Kolkata
• India: Mumbai
• India: VPP Bangalore
• Kazakhstan: Astana | Русский | Қазақша
• Kazakhstan: Almaty | Русский
• Kyrgyz Republic: Bishkek | Кыргызча | Русский
• Nepal: Kathmandu
• Pakistan: Islamabad
• Pakistan: Karachi
• Pakistan: Lahore
• Pakistan: Peshawar
• Sri Lanka: Colombo
• Sri Lanka: VPP Maldives
• Tajikistan: Dushanbe | Русский
• Turkmenistan: Ashgabat | Türkmen dilinde | Русский
• Uzbekistan: Tashkent | Русский | O'zbekcha

I know what you're thinking....Al Queda can't attack in some of those places. It's not like they ever did anything in London or New York or any place like that.






There was Marine FAST detachment less than an hour away. They were primed and ready to go, and they would have quite handily done the job. Your attempt at confusing the issue fails.

Yes, there are a lot of missions in the area, buty fortunately we no longer live in the age of sail, so MOST of those missions you listed are reachable within two hours from the quick reaction forces that are based in the Med and Diego Garcia etc.

She doesn't want to hear that my friend. All she wants to do is defend that fuck and his State Department and tell us that they were dead no matter what.

Apparantly she has very little faith in our armed services. Armed services that have been fighting these dirtbags since 9-11.

And the next time there are demonstrations outside of one of our embassies....

When do you call the Marines in? What do you tell them to do?
 
I tried....


but this thread with it's huge long lists of ....

how the heck can anybody follow the rantings and ravings of so many lunatics?

What was this thread about in the first place? A comment Hillary made taken out of context?

yes.

they are afraid of a strong woman.

that is why they have to attack her relentlessly.
 
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And the next time there are demonstrations outside of one of our embassies....

When do you call the Marines in? What do you tell them to do?

Hell yes you call in the Marines, whenever a threat, especially in an unstable country where you just bombed the hell out of them. Stop the enemy, by any means, is what you tell them.
 
I tried....


but this thread with it's huge long lists of ....

how the heck can anybody follow the rantings and ravings of so many lunatics?

What was this thread about in the first place? A comment Hillary made taken out of context?

yes.

they are afraid of a strong woman.

that is why they have to attack her relentlessly.

I think they were scared she might have an aneurysm screaming like a Banshee, or maybe the high pitch shrill voice was hurting their ears. Besides, she wasn't going to say anthing else, just more lying. They were smart enough to realize it and quit and the lying liberals can't even accept that they bad mouth them for not being tougher and had they been? The lying left would have bad mouthed them even more. They were right to quit after her obvious lies there was nothing else to be gained. Of course the lying MSM will paint a different story line but that is to be expected.
 
I'll agree with that to an extent. Also, Benghazi was not the embassy site, it was a consulate.



Bullshit.

They're dead because they were attacked. Had a Beirut style truck bomb been used, we'd just have mroe dead people.

This is where the right wing hate machine goes off the rails every fucking time....If A then B. Equating the dead State department officials to actions taken weeks and months earlier is like saying the cheeseburger you ate in May is the reason you had the stroke in January.


No, that is the bloodlust of the right wing.



I agree with that...your seething hatred prevents you from thinking clearly as this post indicates.

Yup. They are dead because they were attacked. If they had had that extra security they might still be alive. They would probably been able to defend themselves



Oh so your saying if that extra security were given that they would still be dead?? Nice to know what a fortune teller you are. Along with that extra security was the heads up that something was up. Something they could have defended against.
As much as a fortune teller that you are by claiming they'd still be alive.

Lets say we double the height of the fence, triple the guard. If the terrorist still wanted to wax some Americans...you wait until they leave the compound.

Are you saying that the State Department didn't drop the ball? That they didn't ignore those requests for extra security? That the Ambassador didn't send e-mails for extra security because he had thoughts about an impending attack??
No. I'm saying that hindsight is 2020. In one of our clinics in the bad part of town, my boss installed a security fence that will drop down from the ceiling and seal off the front doors. It's a fence that rolls up into the ceiling and when you press a button saying "down" on a control switch that is located in plain view of those passing through the doors, the thing deploys downward. There are other exits but they are several dozen feet or yards away. I don't like having it there, totally free to be pressed by anyone. If someone were to come into the clinic and want to kill people they could press this button and seal off the main exit (and seal off the main conduit for police support). I've made my case to my boss. Supposedly we're getting a lock-out box to put over it. We've been getting one for about 8 months now.

Here is my point. If the shooting happens tomorrow, you're saying that he is responsible for the deaths that result...right? He's ignored my expert reqeusts for this box. The reason is that there are other priorities. We got pay raises last year. Maybe that was a priority to the lock out box. I now have a laptop to go along with my desktop computer. Maybe that was a priority. My assistant got a new desk chair to support her ailing back. Priority?

I guarantee you that after the shooting, there won't be an easily accessible "down button" anywhere in the nation if the story is told of what happened.

I tend to blame the guy pulling the trigger other than the administrators who have to juggle priorities and competing needs across a broad horizon.

Thats not blood lust from the right. Thats me uttering my absolute disgust for this State Department and the absolute uncaring idiots that are running it.

Seething hatred?? Bullshit. Absolute disgust that those four men depended on Barry, Hillary and their State Department to have the're backs. Something that didnt' happen. Four good men are dead and those idiots are trying to sweep it all under the rug.

Oh and BTW I think pretty darned clearly. I know incompetantance when I see it.

Barry's State Department is apparantly one incompetant outfit.


Ahh, the angry little man syndrome. Have a cookie. Sit down with whats-his-face from South Carolina and cry in your beer.

Its easy to see those four dead men mean absolutely nothing to you.

It was you who said No one cares I do believe. Yep. Your a winner there chicky. Of course if one of your relatives had been killed in that consulate I think you might have a whole different take on things.

Or if Bush were POTUS you'd be looking at it a little differently. I think you'd be calling him every name in the book and be looking for answers.

Those request for added security were made and ignored even though other embassies and the red cross pulled out because of the threat of violence.

Those were our citizens in that consulate. Our ambassador and our security folks. They are dead because the State Department didn't send added security and certainly didn't take the threats of violence seriously as other countries and the Red Cross did.

Libya consulate: Was security added or taken away? - CBS News

Ahh the I don't give a shit syndrome. You wear it well.
 
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