Has the FBI lost credibility in recent news events?

Has the FBI lost credibility?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 62.7%
  • No

    Votes: 21 35.6%
  • Dunno, I live under a rock

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • Total voters
    59
Parkland, Fla was a REPEAT of their history. The new FBI Director came right out and admitted the FBI did not follow their procedures and F*-ed up....

...right on the heels of several other extremely public F*-ups.....

Comey, the traitor - FIRED
McCabe - the traitor - FIRED
Strzok - the traitor - incredibly 're-assigned' but stil with the FBI instead of being FIRED

Just like what they did for Hillary, Abedin, Mills...the same has been done for them - none of them are in jail where they should be for their proven crimes.
 
Flynn borke the law by lying to FBI (YOU ADMIT AS MUCH) and him being investigated was 100% appropriate, while Trump's interference in the investigation was 100% inappropriate, as per evidence.

You keep claiming that Flynn breaking the law was justification for him being investigated; yet we all know now Flynn was doing nothing illegal

No, we know he lied to FBI, which is illegal, a crime that he has PLED GUILTY TO.

I know it.

You know it...but you are also crazy enough to try to simultaneously know it AND say shit that is DIRECTLY CONTRADICTORY to that knowledge.

My only explanation of this phenomenon is that you have a serious mental deficiency.
Bwuhahahaha.....I see you are too stupid to understand, no matter how slowly I type.

Flynn's crime was being STUPID...!

No it wasn't, being stupid is not a crime (otherwise you'd be cruelly hanged).

Lying to FBI is a crime. Flynn lied to FBI.

He did so not out of gross stupidity, but because he thought that telling the truth was worse.
He didn't know they have him on tape and did suspect that talking to Russians about sanctions can land him in legal or at least political problems.
 
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Every government agency is a corrupt bag of shit.

Not quite "all of them".. In the 90s, I shipped the whole DC for research contracts for our signal/image processing group. MOST of these agencies are just contract managers. Not a whole mess of internal innovation and competence. But the ones that you should keep a wary eye on are the 3 lettered Intel Agencies.

They were NEVER a threat to the Amer. public in the 90s. Entirely focused and RESTRICTED to FOREIGN surveillance and programs. But since 9/11, these awesome scary bastions of competence are now aimed at YOU.. Thanks to PATRIOT Act and the fears following 9/11.. And a bunch of servile Congress Critters who LIKE having those awesome powers to use for political, financial or extra-legal exploits...
 
So the FBI fired McCabe, not Trump?

Gowdy on McCabe's Firing: He 'Undercut His Credibility All by Himself'


Rep. Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.) said former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe "undercut his credibility all by himself" while discussing his firing on "Fox News Sunday."

Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired McCabe on Friday, over an unreleased internal report alleging McCabe directed FBI officials to speak to the press about a Clinton Foundation investigation and then misled investigators, according to CNN. President Donald Trump tweeted McCabe's dismissal was a "great day for democracy."

The firing drew outrage from Trump administration critics, who felt it was part of an effort to impeach McCabe as a witness in special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. McCabe released a statement that his firing was an attempt to affect his credibility.

"Oh, Andy McCabe has undercut his credibility all by himself," Gowdy said after host Chris Wallace read part of McCabe's statement. "He didn't need any help doing that, and I find it richly ironic that he is lamenting that those are attacking the FBI when he himself does the exact same thing. It was the FBI who said he made an unauthorized disclosure and then lied about it."




"That wasn't President Trump," he added. "It wasn't me. It wasn't the crazy House Republicans. It was his own fellow FBI agents that said he leaked and then lied about it, so if he's got credibility issues, he need look no further than himself."

Gowdy added he would reserve full judgment on the matter and the proportionality of the punishment until the Justice Department's Inspector General's report, but he said agency members didn't get to choose when to tell the truth.

"Make no mistake. The FBI is who recommended that he be fired. It wasn’t crazy House Republicans and it wasn’t the Trump administration," Gowdy said. "It was his own fellow bureau agents."
 
Every government agency is a corrupt bag of shit.

Not quite "all of them".. In the 90s, I shipped the whole DC for research contracts for our signal/image processing group. MOST of these agencies are just contract managers. Not a whole mess of internal innovation and competence. But the ones that you should keep a wary eye on are the 3 lettered Intel Agencies.

They were NEVER a threat to the Amer. public in the 90s. Entirely focused and RESTRICTED to FOREIGN surveillance and programs. But since 9/11, these awesome scary bastions of competence are now aimed at YOU.. Thanks to PATRIOT Act and the fears following 9/11.. And a bunch of servile Congress Critters who LIKE having those awesome powers to use for political, financial or extra-legal exploits...

Er.....um......unless your last name is Clinton or Obama.
 
So the FBI fired McCabe, not Trump?

No, Sessions, Trump's political appointee fired McCabe, after months of Trump's very public demands that he do so before McCabe could retire:

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So the FBI fired McCabe, not Trump?

No, Sessions, Trump's political appointee fired McCabe, after months of Trump's very public demands that he do so before McCabe could retire:

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It was the FBI's recommendation.
FBI disciplinary office recommends firing ex-deputy director Andrew McCabe days before his retirement

It WAS NOT FBI recommendation that he be fired without pension or even a chance for appeal. THAT is entirely Trump's idea, executed by his AG.

Sessions and Trump could not give less shit that McCabe leaked on Hillary, in fact under different circumstance they would pet him on the head for that. This was nothing but a convenient excuse.

You may recall exactly same play on Comey. When Trump fired him he officially used Rosenstein's recommendation to do so based on Comey's mistreatment of Clinton. Of course no one believed that nonsense so he went on TV and fessed up that firing was actually about "the Russia thing"
 
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1. No it wasn't, being stupid is not a crime (otherwise you'd be cruelly hanged).

2. Lying to FBI is a crime. Flynn lied to FBI.

1. Being stupid is a crime.....or leads to one. The only crime Flynn is guilty of is lying to the FBI about something that was not even illegal....which is stupid.

Nothing about doing so, however, has anything to do with non-existent Russian collusion and is, if anything, evidence the Mueller Witch Hunt should never have been started.

The only thing Mueller accomplished by 'taking down Flynn' was to prove he was stupid and protected the American people from a stupid man serving in a Cabinet position.


2. Lying to the FBI is OBVIOUSLY not a 'crime' because evidence shows both Hillary aides Abedin and Mills lied to the FBI and, just like Obama/Holder/Lynch/Mueller/Comey/Strzok/Lynch did with Hillary, they were protected from indictment and criminal charges for their crimes.

This is DIRECT EVIDENCE of the criminal bias by the FBI in this case.

Lying to the FBI if you are connected to Trump in any way is obviously illegal.
 
I'd like to know if the IG recommend that McCabe be fired, or if the IG simply said it could be a fire-able offense....

Sessions made the decision, not the IG, we know that part already....that is their protocol, it is up to the AG to decided if a person's lifelong career of good vs the bad things is fair in their firing....

so far, on all the inspector general's reprts with people doing things that they could be fired for, the AG's have weighed them, and NOT fired them but reprimanded or demoted them, if the years of good and dedicated service were there, when on a person at the level of McCabe....?

So if the IG found really really really egregious stuff on Mccabe, then it would be justified....we just do not know yet, cuz the report from the IG is not completed enough yet, for us to see....

Just as a heads-up ... The IG did recommend McCabe's firing.

That occurred after the IG reported to the OPR (Office of Professional Responsibility, also associated with the Justice Department).
Both the OPR and the Inspector General's office recommended McCabe's firing.

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So the FBI fired McCabe, not Trump?

No, Sessions, Trump's political appointee fired McCabe, after months of Trump's very public demands that he do so before McCabe could retire:

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It was the FBI's recommendation.
FBI disciplinary office recommends firing ex-deputy director Andrew McCabe days before his retirement

It WAS NOT FBI recommendation that he be fired without pension or even a chance for appeal. THAT is entirely Trump's idea, executed by his AG.

Sessions and Trump could not give less shit that McCabe leaked on Hillary, in fact under different circumstance they would pet him on the head for that. This was nothing but a convenient excuse to go after him.

You started out suggesting Trump told Sessions to fire McCabe. Now when you find out it was the FBI that made the recommendation, you change it to "the FBI didn't recommend he get fired without a pension". WTF is wrong with you, dumbass.
 
It WAS NOT FBI recommendation that he be fired without pension or even a chance for appeal.

You bet it was NOT!

The FBI protected Hillary from indictment.

The FBI protected Huma and Mills from indictment.

The FBI protected seditious / treasonous Strzok from indictment / being fired.

The FBI had ever intention of protecting seditious / treasonous McCabe, allowing his criminal arse to slide out the door without being fully held accountable.

The IG is the 1st one who reportedly cited his illegal actions in their report and suggested he should be fired.

Now it is being reported that Democrats in the House are contemplating hiring his ass, even after his sedition / treason has been exposed, so that he can retire and suckle off tax payers he tried to betray.
 
So the FBI fired McCabe, not Trump?

No, Sessions, Trump's political appointee fired McCabe, after months of Trump's very public demands that he do so before McCabe could retire:

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It was the FBI's recommendation.
FBI disciplinary office recommends firing ex-deputy director Andrew McCabe days before his retirement

It WAS NOT FBI recommendation that he be fired without pension or even a chance for appeal. THAT is entirely Trump's idea, executed by his AG.

Sessions and Trump could not give less shit that McCabe leaked on Hillary, in fact under different circumstance they would pet him on the head for that. This was nothing but a convenient excuse to go after him.

You started out suggesting Trump told Sessions to fire McCabe. Now when you find out it was the FBI that made the recommendation, you change it to "the FBI didn't recommend he get fired without a pension". WTF is wrong with you, dumbass.

Woops!

Time to get out the vagina hats and shout you down.
 
So the FBI fired McCabe, not Trump?

No, Sessions, Trump's political appointee fired McCabe, after months of Trump's very public demands that he do so before McCabe could retire:

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It was the FBI's recommendation.
FBI disciplinary office recommends firing ex-deputy director Andrew McCabe days before his retirement

It WAS NOT FBI recommendation that he be fired without pension or even a chance for appeal. THAT is entirely Trump's idea, executed by his AG.

Sessions and Trump could not give less shit that McCabe leaked on Hillary, in fact under different circumstance they would pet him on the head for that. This was nothing but a convenient excuse to go after him.

You started out suggesting Trump told Sessions to fire McCabe. Now when you find out it was the FBI that made the recommendation, you change it to "the FBI didn't recommend he get fired without a pension". WTF is wrong with you, dumbass.

Retard, Trump through his AG accelerated the process to make sure McCabe was fired before collecting his pension.

Unlike Rosenstein's recommendation to fire Comey, which was made public, this IG report is classified so we cannot discuss what exactly is in it.

No one thinks Comey was fired "by FBI" because Rosenstein wrote that he did Hillary wrong and NO ONE should think that McCabe got fired "by FBI" because he did Hillary wrong.
 
So the FBI fired McCabe, not Trump?

No, Sessions, Trump's political appointee fired McCabe, after months of Trump's very public demands that he do so before McCabe could retire:

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It was the FBI's recommendation.
FBI disciplinary office recommends firing ex-deputy director Andrew McCabe days before his retirement

It WAS NOT FBI recommendation that he be fired without pension or even a chance for appeal. THAT is entirely Trump's idea, executed by his AG.

Sessions and Trump could not give less shit that McCabe leaked on Hillary, in fact under different circumstance they would pet him on the head for that. This was nothing but a convenient excuse to go after him.

You started out suggesting Trump told Sessions to fire McCabe. Now when you find out it was the FBI that made the recommendation, you change it to "the FBI didn't recommend he get fired without a pension". WTF is wrong with you, dumbass.

Retard, Trump through his AG accelerated the process to make sure McCabe was fired before collecting his pension.

Unlike Rosenstein's recommendation to fire Comey, which was made public, this IG report is classified so we cannot discuss what exactly is in it.

No one thinks Comey was fired "by FBI" because Rosenstein wrote that he did Hillary wrong and NO ONE should think that McCabe got fired "by FBI" because he did Hillary wrong.

Comey was fired because he was an exposed corrupt, seditious, treasonous, classified-leaking POS 'Secret Society' loser who obstructed Justice and protected a felon, from whom his wife took a large sum of cash, so she could be on the ballot instead of in a bright-ass orange jump suit with her # on the back on election day...
 
The FBI is fine. It's the criminals they are after that have no credibility. Getting elected to an office does not give anyone credibility contrary to what Cadet Bone Spurs believes. Trump is a criminal.
 
No, Sessions, Trump's political appointee fired McCabe, after months of Trump's very public demands that he do so before McCabe could retire:

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It was the FBI's recommendation.
FBI disciplinary office recommends firing ex-deputy director Andrew McCabe days before his retirement

It WAS NOT FBI recommendation that he be fired without pension or even a chance for appeal. THAT is entirely Trump's idea, executed by his AG.

Sessions and Trump could not give less shit that McCabe leaked on Hillary, in fact under different circumstance they would pet him on the head for that. This was nothing but a convenient excuse to go after him.

You started out suggesting Trump told Sessions to fire McCabe. Now when you find out it was the FBI that made the recommendation, you change it to "the FBI didn't recommend he get fired without a pension". WTF is wrong with you, dumbass.

Retard, Trump through his AG accelerated the process to make sure McCabe was fired before collecting his pension.

Unlike Rosenstein's recommendation to fire Comey, which was made public, this IG report is classified so we cannot discuss what exactly is in it.

No one thinks Comey was fired "by FBI" because Rosenstein wrote that he did Hillary wrong and NO ONE should think that McCabe got fired "by FBI" because he did Hillary wrong.

Comey was fired because he was an exposed corrupt, seditious, treasonous, classified-leaking POS 'Secret Society' loser who obstructed Justice and protected a felon, from whom his wife took a large sum of cash, so she could be on the ballot instead of in a bright-ass orange jump suit with her # on the back on election day...

Yea?

So why did Trump officially say that Comey was fired for screwing Hillary?

Because Trump is a piece of shit liar, that's why moron.


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