Granting Props to President Obama where due

[CryGlennCry]

I give Obama credit for making me feel like a 3rd grader being lectured to by a mean teacher every time he gives a speech. He doesn't talk to people. He lectures them.

Yeah, I miss the ole' days when I was SMARTER than my president!

You might not realize that the image you posted was photoshopped, but your ignorance is amusing.

If you DID know it was photoshopped, then you just exposed yourself as being dishonest.

So, which is it? Are you dishonest or just woefully gullible?

EVERYONE knows it's ps'ed, dummy.
But the point isn't lost on you is it?

 

[Liability]

Yeah, I miss the ole' days when I was SMARTER than my president!

You might not realize that the image you posted was photoshopped, but your ignorance is amusing.

If you DID know it was photoshopped, then you just exposed yourself as being dishonest.

So, which is it? Are you dishonest or just woefully gullible?

EVERYONE knows it's ps'ed, dummy.
But the point isn't lost on you is it?

I don't know that EVERYONE knows it. If you knew it, but used it as "evidence" for your cheap-ass commentary without acknowledging that it was a photoshopped fraud, then you were just being dishonest.

There was no "point" to your putrid post.

You expressed an imbecilic commentary. You aren't smarter than a third grader or President Bush. Hell, you may not even be smarter than Pelousy.

 

[MaggieMae]

More?

More than what?

More than what we might have had if an even more radical Marxist had run for the Presidency and won?

More than had an actual Liberal won. Obama has plenty of Conservative views and most of the time did exactly what Bush did. Except when Bush did it, it was excused as "protecting our freedoms and us citizens" while when Obama does it it's "Socialism and taking away our rights."

I would prefer to address that point by way of examples of whatever it is you have in mind. As for me, I have supported a few of the things done by President Obama which happen to be more or less along the lines of SOME of the things done by President Bush. I generally supported PResident Bush on issues of national security, but I often disageed with him on issue of domestic programs, spending, etc. So, if I prasied President Bush for some position (the PATRIOT Act, for example) then to the extent President Obama has shared those positions, I have praised President Obama too.

By the way, President Obama IS an actual liberal.

And before you ask, this is coming from a Liberal who really no longer supports Obama. His so called change is just more of the same.

No. It certainly is not -- except on a few matters. Too few.

Obama is liberal on some things, but not others. Because of the state of the economy, he really hasn't had the opportunity to prove that yet. A couple of things that come to mind are his goals on education, specifically forcing changes in the way teachers are tenured and a position that affirmative action should embrace ALL kids who have the grades but not the means to get into college, not just blacks.

On the health care issue, although he has said in the past that a universal plan is ideal in a perfect society, it would be too costly. He has attempted to bring about a change in the monopolistic health care industry, while not breaking the code and performance by free markets. On health care, Pelosi is the true liberal, and Max Baucus has proven he's nothing but an appeaser. Ironically, it's Obama who is attempting to stay in the middle.

 

[Liability]

More than had an actual Liberal won. Obama has plenty of Conservative views and most of the time did exactly what Bush did. Except when Bush did it, it was excused as "protecting our freedoms and us citizens" while when Obama does it it's "Socialism and taking away our rights."

I would prefer to address that point by way of examples of whatever it is you have in mind. As for me, I have supported a few of the things done by President Obama which happen to be more or less along the lines of SOME of the things done by President Bush. I generally supported PResident Bush on issues of national security, but I often disageed with him on issue of domestic programs, spending, etc. So, if I prasied President Bush for some position (the PATRIOT Act, for example) then to the extent President Obama has shared those positions, I have praised President Obama too.

By the way, President Obama IS an actual liberal.

And before you ask, this is coming from a Liberal who really no longer supports Obama. His so called change is just more of the same.

No. It certainly is not -- except on a few matters. Too few.

Obama is liberal on some things, but not others. Because of the state of the economy, he really hasn't had the opportunity to prove that yet. A couple of things that come to mind are his goals on education, specifically forcing changes in the way teachers are tenured and a position that affirmative action should embrace ALL kids who have the grades but not the means to get into college, not just blacks.

On the health care issue, although he has said in the past that a universal plan is ideal in a perfect society, it would be too costly. He has attempted to bring about a change in the monopolistic health care industry, while not breaking the code and performance by free markets. On health care, Pelosi is the true liberal, and Max Baucus has proven he's nothing but an appeaser. Ironically, it's Obama who is attempting to stay in the middle.

President Obama is a liberal. Period. But that's off topic.

If you want to debate just how liberal President Obama is or isn't, you can always start a new thread. I imagine your thread will be a "hit."

 

[woodjack]

I give Obama credit for making me feel like a 3rd grader being lectured to by a mean teacher every time he gives a speech. He doesn't talk to people. He lectures them.

Yeah, I miss the ole' days when I was SMARTER than my president!

smarter eh? I guess our president was smart on the stimulas package for infrastructure to create 2 million jobs temporay jobs mind you because guess what, you cannot work on construction during the winter months in northern states, real genuis there, summer jobs is what he created. Like thats going to fix anything. heck the list goes on and on on his missteps. but people give him props on ordering the somalia pirates killed, umm from what source are you getting that he ordered that? from what I have seen from his decisions making I doubt it. the special forces got sick of all the pandering and poped them themselves and Obama took the credit, although I am sure he was thinking of trying the special forces instead but decided amercans seemed relieved I can use this. that is more in line with our presidents line of thinking.

Smart eh? I guess he is smart enough to know that surgeons make 10k to 50k per amputation, hell he either lied or wasn't smart enough to realize those numbers are skewed or was just reading from his teleprompter take your pick either way I am smarter then this current president. I can go on and on

or his afgan policy seen he gets credit for that to, geesh he has shut down the airforce operations to try to work diplomatically with killers, real smart there , that is the reason it is blowing up there we are not bombing the bastards anymore we are being more diplomatic, wow genuis

 

[Liability]

Can it be?

Can my conservative bretheren and sister(en) really have only three or four (maybe five) good things to say about President Obama!?

Fuck it. This thread is now declared still-born.

But at least there ARE a couple of good things we, as conservatives, can say about President Obama.

That's more than most libs could manage to grunt out about the superior President, George W. Bush.

 

[Emma]

President Obama is a liberal. Period.

Hardly. He's a centrist.

I disagree with you on #2. But then you knew that

I think he walked into a hell of a mess. The fact he's managed not to snatch himself bald deserves some kudos. I also support his commitment to service, even if you people on the right think it's some nefarious scheme to build an army of Obama brownshirts or whatever.

 

[Emma]

On the personal side, you can see how his eyes light up at the sight of (or when he speaks of) his wife and daughters; they're obviously the center of his universe. I truly believe that in the end that is how he will judge his success in life, not by anything he accomplished politically.

I'm not so sure he's too keen on the dog, though lol.

 

[Chris]

President Obama is a liberal. Period.

Hardly. He's a centrist.

I disagree with you on #2. But then you knew that

I think he walked into a hell of a mess. The fact he's managed not to snatch himself bald deserves some kudos. I also support his commitment to service, even if you people on the right think it's some nefarious scheme to build an army of Obama brownshirts or whatever.

The right has painted themselves into a corner.

All they can do now is make things up.

It's really pathetic.

 

[Huh?]

I like that Obama can at least admit to it when he makes a mistake whereas the one before him, although he made plenty couldn't even think of one when asked...or the one before him that came into our living rooms via the television and flat out lied to us.

 

[DiveCon]

you left out that he allowed the commander in the field(Ships captain) the discretion to do the right thing in the hostage situation with the Somali pirates

 

[garyd]

Correctly characterized Kanye West.

 

[Chris]

Correctly characterized Kanye West.

Republicans are always afraid of people with brown skin.

It's what they do.

That's why they are now the party of Southern whites.

 

[DiveCon]

Correctly characterized Kanye West.

Republicans are always afraid of people with brown skin.

It's what they do.

That's why they are now the party of Southern whites.

so, Obama is a racist?


what a fucked up person you are

 

[Liability]

On the personal side, you can see how his eyes light up at the sight of (or when he speaks of) his wife and daughters; they're obviously the center of his universe. I truly believe that in the end that is how he will judge his success in life, not by anything he accomplished politically.

I'm not so sure he's too keen on the dog, though lol.

Emma:

As we know, we rarely agree. Sometimes. But it's rare.

On the matter of the man and his family, however, I flatly agree. In fact, once upon a time on that other Board, I even noted that I liked that photo op of the future President squished into a bumper car with one of his daughters. The man looked a bit goofy (like any dad in that situation probably should) and he looked like he was quite simply happy. One of his better qualities, imho, is his relationship with the First Family.

 

[Liability]

I like that Obama can at least admit to it when he makes a mistake whereas the one before him, although he made plenty couldn't even think of one when asked...or the one before him that came into our living rooms via the television and flat out lied to us.

What a bullshit post. If President Obama runs for re-election as expected, he is quite unlikely to face that KIND of question from the partisan house organ we laughingly call the media.

But they had no qualms about "asking" that ridiculous "question" of President Bush. What do you imagine any candidate is going to say knowing that any admission of mistake or error will get trumpeted by the partisan liberal media and will become your liberal opponent's campaign ad fodder. {Translation of that absurd press "question" to President Bush: "Pardon me, Mr. President, but we'd like to ask you a set-up gotchya-type question. Would you mind terribly assisting us in our transparent effort to slice and dice you?"}

Your commentary in the quoted post was stupid and useless, not to mention off topic.

 

[Emma]

On the personal side, you can see how his eyes light up at the sight of (or when he speaks of) his wife and daughters; they're obviously the center of his universe. I truly believe that in the end that is how he will judge his success in life, not by anything he accomplished politically.

I'm not so sure he's too keen on the dog, though lol.

Emma:

As we know, we rarely agree. Sometimes. But it's rare.

On the matter of the man and his family, however, I flatly agree. In fact, once upon a time on that other Board, I even noted that I liked that photo op of the future President squished into a bumper car with one of his daughters. The man looked a bit goofy (like any dad in that situation probably should) and he looked like he was quite simply happy. One of his better qualities, imho, is his relationship with the First Family.

I remember your thread on that, and yeah, he looked goofy lol.

Given his background, he could have ended up like so many I know from 'broken homes'. But he's chosen to go the opposite route, and make sure his kids have the father he never had.

 

[veritas]

I give Obama credit for making me feel like a 3rd grader being lectured to by a mean teacher every time he gives a speech. He doesn't talk to people. He lectures them.

I disagree. He speaks like I speak. He's trying to be as accurate and as informative as possible. I think he's overly careful, so sometimes it seems like a lecture, and maybe it is, so he can get as much info out there in the time allotted. And he has an undying adherence to correct sentence structure.......something we have been without for a long time.

 

[Huh?]

I like that Obama can at least admit to it when he makes a mistake whereas the one before him, although he made plenty couldn't even think of one when asked...or the one before him that came into our living rooms via the television and flat out lied to us.

What a bullshit post. If President Obama runs for re-election as expected, he is quite unlikely to face that KIND of question from the partisan house organ we laughingly call the media.

But they had no qualms about "asking" that ridiculous "question" of President Bush. What do you imagine any candidate is going to say knowing that any admission of mistake or error will get trumpeted by the partisan liberal media and will become your liberal opponent's campaign ad fodder. {Translation of that absurd press "question" to President Bush: "Pardon me, Mr. President, but we'd like to ask you a set-up gotchya-type question. Would you mind terribly assisting us in our transparent effort to slice and dice you?"}

Your commentary in the quoted post was stupid and useless, not to mention off topic.

Oh really...how was it off topic?

 

[Liability]

I like that Obama can at least admit to it when he makes a mistake whereas the one before him, although he made plenty couldn't even think of one when asked...or the one before him that came into our living rooms via the television and flat out lied to us.

What a bullshit post. If President Obama runs for re-election as expected, he is quite unlikely to face that KIND of question from the partisan house organ we laughingly call the media.

But they had no qualms about "asking" that ridiculous "question" of President Bush. What do you imagine any candidate is going to say knowing that any admission of mistake or error will get trumpeted by the partisan liberal media and will become your liberal opponent's campaign ad fodder. {Translation of that absurd press "question" to President Bush: "Pardon me, Mr. President, but we'd like to ask you a set-up gotchya-type question. Would you mind terribly assisting us in our transparent effort to slice and dice you?"}

Your commentary in the quoted post was stupid and useless, not to mention off topic.

Oh really...how was it off topic?

Ok. Fair reply. PARTLY off topic. The bullshit about President Bush and the accurate comment about the lying President Clinton are not observations by a conservative (if you are one) of some GOOD things concerning President Obama.

But, still, you are partly right. You DID partly stick to the topic. I gotta give you that much.