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Does the OP not understand we were founded as a Christian nation?
The US Constitution disagrees with you on that.
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Does the OP not understand we were founded as a Christian nation?
We were founded as a Christian nation.
"In God we trust"
"One nation under God"
I think on this statement of yours most liberals would disagree with you.dvng.22.11.19 #5,679
It is not the argument, it’s the thirteen centuries or so of allegedly successful White European Christian behavior the petitioners to the court on Dobbs were seeking to impose on modern American women according to Saint Ding of Schlafly Nation in the following post.
dvng.22.01.27-#617 I don’t see how that changes the fact that we were founded as a Christian nation based upon Christian values and principles. Not religious dogma per se but the successful behaviors which Western Civilization was built upon.Is there anyone here who have expressed a conclusion that Dobbs has nothing to do with religion who can make a case that the Queen of Republican white Christian Family Values and nationalism was not religiously motivated to oppose abortion rights for her entire life.
Phyllis Schlafly endorsed Trump in 2015. She served up white Evangelicals and right wing Catholic voters to Trump probably givinh the man with shitty family values the real opportunity to become POTUS.
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump used a brief address before the funeral Mass to paint himself as the heir to the values of the Eagle Forum, which Schlafly founded in 1972.Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and his wife, Melania Trump, pause at the casket of Phyllis Schlafly before a funeral Mass on Saturday."In all of her battles, she never strayed from the one guiding principle. She was for America, and it was always, always America First," Trump said. "She never stopped fighting for the fundamental idea that the American people ought to have their needs come before anything or anyone else."nf.23.10.02 #1
(1964). Drs. Greenhill and Friedman write in their 1974 obstetrical textbook, “The term conception refers to the union of the male and female pronuclear elements of procreation from which a new living being develops . . . [T]he zygote thus formed represents the beginning of a new life.
We were a nominal nation of Christians (90% were unchurched) that founded a secular government.We were founded as a Christian nation.
"In God we trust"
"One nation under God"
lo and behold Saint Libbyvonh in POST lbbyvnh.23.11.11 #47 cutteth and pasteth and sayeth no more:
It seems the only folks wailing about reproductive rights are those to stupid not to use birth control in the first place.Saint ding disagreed with this.
NotfooledbyW said: True religious freedom means that people seeking essential reproductive rights care are able to make decisions based on their own beliefs and circumstances, not the religious views of whichever majority might be voted into power giving those politicians the power to make health and family planning decisions a function of the government, not individuals in the privacy of their homes and doctors offices. nf.22.07.18 #2,352
Saint Dvng had not explained why or what is not agreeable.
More like I showed what level you debate at.Saint ding disagreed with this.
NotfooledbyW said: True religious freedom means that people seeking essential reproductive rights care are able to make decisions based on their own beliefs and circumstances, not the religious views of whichever majority might be voted into power giving those politicians the power to make health and family planning decisions a function of the government, not individuals in the privacy of their homes and doctors offices. nf.22.07.18 #2,352
Saint Dvng had not explained why or what is not agreeable.
It seems the only folks wailing about reproductive rights are those to stupid not to use birth control in the first place.
AbortionI will happily concede your point, as you as you give us the name of a birth control methos that is 100% effective.
Oh, what a silly post....as if disagreement over taking a human life is controversial but 'reasonable' and 'regulated' is no problem at all. !!Dobbs also allows the voters to force the state to recognized reasonably regulated abortion regulations with which 70% of America agrees.
lennypartiv said: Let's hope these predictions come true. We need something to save America. These dark connections need to be exposed.---In the message posted on Monday, Green said God indicated he would "expose" these connections to the White House, which she said involves "the Red Dragon" [seemingly China], Iran, Iraq, Ukraine and Canada.---MSNlnnyprtv.23.11.02 #1lennypartiv said: Does the OP not understand we were founded as a Christian nation?lnnyprtv.23.11.03 #20
Do you have any historically recorded reality that the United States’ foundation was ordained by the Judeo Christian God who has a Son named Jesus who you have to believe gave his life by dying on a cross to save you Saint Lennypartiv from this thing called original sin, and if you don’t believe Jesus saves humans from original sin you will burn in hell for all eternity.
I cannot find anything about that God or any of His Holy brand of Christianity in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution.
Membership In America Percentage of population that belongs to a church: 1776 17% 1850 34 1860 37 1870 35 1890 45 1906 51 1916 53 1926 56 195259 1980 62 1995 65* *Estimated. Source: "The Churching of America: 1776-1990" by Roger Finke and Rodney Stark and Gallup Organization data“
The US has never been or is now a Christian Nation just because it has a Christian majority since 1906.
No American has any obligation or duty to believe in original sin and that only a belief in Jesus Christ as Son of God will your sins be forgiven by God.
It’s a BIG LIE that America was founded as a Christian Nation.
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Abortion
Abstainance is proven 100%. Effective as is abortion.I will happily concede your point, as you as you give us the name of a birth control methos that is 100% effective.
Abstainance is proven 100%. Effective as is abortion.
Only the woman has complete control of the second. If she doesn’t avail herself of it, her choice, her responsibility
Not my circus, not my clowns.And abstinence is such an effective means of birth control. Yes, abstaining from sex will prevent pregnancy. But preventing sex is far more difficult.