Dems at it again

Social program - a detailed outline of state activity which follows and implements a specific social welfare policy. A social program outlines the funds to be spent and the purposes for which they will be spent.

Just like a lot of those New Deal programs FDR implemented.

:rofl:


Yet a welfare policy is not an employment policy... soldiers are employees... not social program recipients... your lazy bum welfare junkies are the social program recipients
 
Yet a welfare policy is not an employment policy... soldiers are employees... not social program recipients... your lazy bum welfare junkies are the social program recipients

Sorry, you are incorrect. Bennies to the retired military is a social program. Choke on it.
 
Sorry, you are incorrect. Bennies to the retired military is a social program. Choke on it.

stubborn little lib....

comprehension must be so hard for you

just like in the private sector... you obtain benefits from employment... many benefits come from prolonged employment for a company/employer... those many times include retirement bennies such as healthcare, pension, etc...

they are not receiving something for nothing... they are receiving compensation for providing a service as an employee...

with a social program, employment and/or service is not a requirement
 
That's cause they got no game and they know it.

What I'm finding amusing is watching libertarians trying to differentitate military medince from socialized medicine, or for that matter, trying to explain why the military isn't a form of socialism.


A government TAKES TAXES from people. Uses those taxes for the military and that's not another example of socialism how, exactly?

No wonder they want to change the subject.

They want the socialism they want, and that they call okay.

The socialism they don't like they damn.


I think it goes deeper than that. The right sees national defense as the one legitimate duty of government. They don't care if it bankrupts us. They don't care whether soldiers are cared for when they come back since they're supposed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps in a John Wayne kind of way. But they don't see it in the same light as other government provided services.

So I think it's a bit more than wanting the type of socialism they want.

However, they AREN'T looking at the issue rationally in terms of the long term survival of our society and the dangers of the huge and growing disparity between the haves and have nots.
 
stubborn little lib....

comprehension must be so hard for you

just like in the private sector... you obtain benefits from employment... many benefits come from prolonged employment for a company/employer... those many times include retirement bennies such as healthcare, pension, etc...

they are not receiving something for nothing... they are receiving compensation for providing a service as an employee...

with a social program, employment and/or service is not a requirement

All social programs, stubborn little rightie?
 
Dance libertopians dance!

Either socialism is a specific thing with a clearly understood definition, or it's not.

Since we have whining crybabies complaining about social security, and calling that welfare, I have no problem pointing out that the military is (according to their twisted definition of things, at least ) also funded though their definition of socialism.

It appears we have a number of people whose whole careers were serving the socialist machine, and who are now on socialist military retired welfare complianing that somebody else (doesn't matter who, really, these people's anger is nondifferentiated) is ALSO getting a check from the government.

Oh boo-hoo-hoo cry me an Ayn Rand river

People on Social securuity paid into the system AND paid your socialist military salaries while they were doing it, you big fat whining objectivist babies.

Get over it.
 
Dance libertopians dance!

Either socialism is a specific thing with a clearly understood definition, or it's not.

Since we have whining crybabies complaining about social security, and calling that welfare, I have no problem pointing out that the military is (according to their twisted definition of things, at least ) also funded though their definition of socialism.

It appears we have a number of people whose whole careers were serving the socialist machine, and who are now on socialist military retired welfare complianing that somebody else (doesn't matter who, really, these people's anger is nondifferentiated) is ALSO getting a check from the government.

Oh boo-hoo-hoo cry me an Ayn Rand river

People on Social securuity paid into the system AND paid your socialist military salaries while they were doing it, you big fat whining objectivist babies.

Get over it.


Well alrighty then...if I send you my address will you send me your income?
 
You mean like the WPA? Or welfare to work?

Stubborn little rightie...

TRY THE TERM EMPLOYEE... it may start to give you a clue

As stated before.. I have no problems with social programs sponsored by charities and private organizations.... but it is not the job of government...

I feel good about VOLUNTARILY supporting different programs... not being forced to in an involuntary, Robin Hood-like, socialist control system
 
I think it goes deeper than that. The right sees national defense as the one legitimate duty of government. They don't care if it bankrupts us. They don't care whether soldiers are cared for when they come back since they're supposed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps in a John Wayne kind of way. But they don't see it in the same light as other government provided services.

...

You got it! those "other government provided services" are simply not a legitimate duty of government in my book.

All that aside, if taking my military retirement benefits which I have earned makes me socialist, then so be it. That just means you and the bleeding heart idealists are something else (how does blood sucking tyrants operating under the guise of democracy sound?) .... and those who take what you call welfare are something even worse (pond scum comes to mind).
 
Soldiers are employees? I didn't realize that. Doesn't change the premise that their bennies are a social program.
 
Soldiers are employees? I didn't realize that. Doesn't change the premise that their bennies are a social program.

What the heck do you think soldiers are?

It may not change YOUR premise that their bennies are a social program but is sure shoots a great big gaping hole in that premise as far as I'm concerned. But then we have had this discussion already, haven't we!
 
What the heck do you think soldiers are?

It may not change YOUR premise that their bennies are a social program but is sure shoots a great big gaping hole in that premise as far as I'm concerned. But then we have had this discussion already, haven't we!

Not sure, but most employees don't have to swear to uphold the constitution.

I've no idea why DD is beating this subject to death.
 
it's pretty laughable to call military bennys a social program. Soldiers WORK for their bennys in a high risk environment. What the hell is the equivalent in any single social program?
 
Not sure, but most employees don't have to swear to uphold the constitution.

I've no idea why DD is beating this subject to death.

uh, so does every politician assuming a role in government. Are they not STILL federal employees? Are THEIR bennys nothing more than a social program too?


WOW.


just. WOW.
 

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