Democrats Warn: Beware Ron Paul!

[oldsalt]

Lars:

The "Mises Institute" lives in the world of "sunshine and lollypops". Ron Paul has to wear a REPUB smock just so he can fix problem in the REAL world.

Fair tax/Flat tax -- no one cares until the financial bleeding is under control. And Paul has always been 10 years ahead of BOTH parties on the Iraq/Afghan wars, bases abroad, the FED, subsidies, ect.

His constituents seem happy with his whacky "libertarian" nihilistic views..

the mises institute is a bunch of austrian school economists who aren't rational about real world economics.

paul is a yutz who attracts simple minded people with simplistic ideas...

he's also a hypocrite who cries for term limits yet holds on to his government paycheck and who cries about the evils of earmarks but never met an earmark he doesn't like.

i. e. he doesnt meet my blonde ideology. Disssssmissed, dontcha know! Winkey winkey!

 

[jillian]

s'matter, connie... feeling cranky that you got outed?



maybe you need a new name again.

or maybe find somewhere where people can't tell it's you.

 

[oldsalt]

s'matter, connie... feeling cranky that you got outed?



maybe you need a new name again.

or maybe find somewhere where people can't tell it's you.

Bwah! Busted on just pure dumb again.

 

[Avorysuds]

Ron Paul - nice guy.
Winner of the nomination = no.
Sorry...

Like I asked the last guy, do you even bother reading the OP or the links I provided. If so, what the hell does you personal opinion about Ron Paul's electability have to do with the OT of this thread? Please next time you post, stay on topic instead of just talking out of your ass.

Thanks.

It does get really old... Ron Paul is running, if people don't vote for him because they think he has no chance and that's their reason then LOLz at you. Reality is RP is running and is doing better than most, anything is possible just like it was possible he could have won in 2008 but he didn't.

If you like Ron vote for him, if you don't like Ron then don't vote for him but please stop pretending to be able to predict the future when we both know you are making it up on the spot.

 

[jillian]

s'matter, connie... feeling cranky that you got outed?



maybe you need a new name again.

or maybe find somewhere where people can't tell it's you.

Bwah! Busted on just pure dumb again.

yes. you were. and yet you're still here.

 

[Avorysuds]

We need Ron Paul in the Senate to keep both parties honest.

He can do just as well as president. Maybe better because of increased airtime.

I don't think enough people are crazy enough to elect him President.

The american people have gone way beyond crazy and are at insane. Electing the same type of slime ball, status quo, party line politicians every damn time is insane. We're not sane enough to vote for him. When the man who makes the most sense, and has an almost untouchable record, is declared unelectable then we have a problem. Nope, we don't want him, we want someone who won't change a damn thing about the direction the country is headed, that's for us.

Ron Paul makes a lot of sense, but his isolationist foreign policy would be a disaster. He's totally senseless when it comes to the military as well, because our military strength is what makes everything possible in this country.

LOL!

What the fuck are you talking about, do you even know? Can you even defend our current 4 wars and huge amount of useless ass military basses all over the world while WE HAVE NO MONEY?

Or wait, you just became a progressive liberal that5 loves to spend spend spend!?

 

[oreo]

YouTube - ‪Democrats Warn: Beware Ron Paul!‬‏

Here is the article from Democrats.org that my video is referring to. In item number one, it claims as follows:

“Ron Paul admitted that a low flat tax would be ‘punishing to the poor and middle class’—but supports it anyway. In 2007, when a reporter told Rep. Paul that a flat tax would harm the middle class, he replied, ‘Well, I know. That’s why I don’t want it.’ (NBC, Meet The Press, 12/23/2007) But by 2011, the Congressman had flip-flopped, saying he’d like to offer taxpayers the chance to pay a flat rate of 10 percent if they agree to receive no government services in return.”
You Should Know: Five Facts About Ron Paul | Democrats.org

Here’s the truth. See the third item down. As you can see, Dr. Paul was talking in 2007 about a 30% flat tax, not a “low flat tax.”
Ron Paul on Tax Reform

On the auto bailouts, the relevant question is: compared to what? Compared to letting a competent company take over its assets, the option that the politically driven bailout foreclosed? See also Dan Ikenson’s article.
Opposing view: Bailouts beget more bailouts - USATODAY.com

On gold, recessions, and the economy, see this article and this article, as well as the relevant portion of this resource page.
Life with the Fed: Sunshine and Lollipops? - Thomas E. Woods, Jr. - Mises Daily
Smashed Yglesias by Thomas E. Woods, Jr.
In Defense of Ron Paul | Tom Woods

On Social Security, the Constitution, and the Supreme Court, see John Attarian, “The Roots of the Social Security Myth.”
http://mises.org/pdf/asc/essays/attarian.pdf

Finally, on the distinction between default and not raising the debt ceiling, see the work of economist Robert P. Murphy, as well as his recent article “The Case Against Raising the Debt Ceiling.”
Auction Off the State - Robert P. Murphy - Mises Daily
The Case against Raising the Debt Ceiling - Robert P. Murphy - Mises Daily


Democrats.org on Ron Paul | Tom Woods

Considering that 45% of the working class in America pays no federal income tax what-so-ever--is that Ron Paul needs to be punished for making too much sense.

 

[Shogun]

Ron Paul will become the Ralph Nader of the libertarian side of politics.


watch.

 

[uscitizen]

Rion Paul has been in the Senate for a while and neither party is honest. He failz.

 

[Steelplate]

You know what?

I have no problem with Libertarianism. In fact... if all all things were equal, that would be the political process I would embrace.

But unfortunately, all things are not equal. Things are heavily skewed towards those with power and skewed against those without.

I am totally for a compromise between my liberal agenda and the Libertarian agenda. Let's level the playing field and establish it in a sustainable fashion.... THEN we can incorporate the Libertarian philosophy.

Because as it stands right now... small business is at an extreme disadvantage towards big business.

Without a degree of Socialism, Capitalism becomes the dictatorship. Without Capitalism.. Socialism becomes the dictatorship.... balance is the key... ALWAYS!!!!

 

[Contumacious]

We need Ron Paul in the Senate to keep both parties honest.

He can do just as well as president. Maybe better because of increased airtime.

I don't think enough people are crazy enough to elect him President.

The american people have gone way beyond crazy and are at insane. Electing the same type of slime ball, status quo, party line politicians every damn time is insane. We're not sane enough to vote for him. When the man who makes the most sense, and has an almost untouchable record, is declared unelectable then we have a problem. Nope, we don't want him, we want someone who won't change a damn thing about the direction the country is headed, that's for us.

Ron Paul makes a lot of sense, but his isolationist foreign policy would be a disaster. He's totally senseless when it comes to the military as well, because our military strength is what makes everything possible in this country.

I agree 1000%.

Who gives a shit if the fucking Chinese try to repossess the Pentagon.

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.

 

[uscitizen]

He can do just as well as president. Maybe better because of increased airtime.



The american people have gone way beyond crazy and are at insane. Electing the same type of slime ball, status quo, party line politicians every damn time is insane. We're not sane enough to vote for him. When the man who makes the most sense, and has an almost untouchable record, is declared unelectable then we have a problem. Nope, we don't want him, we want someone who won't change a damn thing about the direction the country is headed, that's for us.

Ron Paul makes a lot of sense, but his isolationist foreign policy would be a disaster. He's totally senseless when it comes to the military as well, because our military strength is what makes everything possible in this country.

I agree 1000%.

Who gives a shit if the fucking Chinese try to repossess the Pentagon.

.

.

Well if they paid for it. That would be libertarian policy.

 

[Contumacious]

Lars:

The "Mises Institute" lives in the world of "sunshine and lollypops". Ron Paul has to wear a REPUB smock just so he can fix problem in the REAL world.

Fair tax/Flat tax -- no one cares until the financial bleeding is under control. And Paul has always been 10 years ahead of BOTH parties on the Iraq/Afghan wars, bases abroad, the FED, subsidies, ect.

His constituents seem happy with his whacky "libertarian" nihilistic views..

the mises institute is a bunch of austrian school economists who aren't rational about real world economics.

Yes, indeed.

Ms Jill, we are intellectual bosom buddies.

Who gives a shit about Free Market economics?

I like Fascist and socialist Economics - the government bureaucrats use the HK416 to persuade the masses . That weapon is far more effective.

As always, Heil Hitler.

 

[Steelplate]

He can do just as well as president. Maybe better because of increased airtime.



The american people have gone way beyond crazy and are at insane. Electing the same type of slime ball, status quo, party line politicians every damn time is insane. We're not sane enough to vote for him. When the man who makes the most sense, and has an almost untouchable record, is declared unelectable then we have a problem. Nope, we don't want him, we want someone who won't change a damn thing about the direction the country is headed, that's for us.

Ron Paul makes a lot of sense, but his isolationist foreign policy would be a disaster. He's totally senseless when it comes to the military as well, because our military strength is what makes everything possible in this country.

I agree 1000%.

Who gives a shit if the fucking Chinese try to repossess the Pentagon.

.

.

Our military is what makes everything possible? Do you realize what you are saying? That we are the "New Age" Roman Empire.... and if any other county tries to exercise their right to their own independence... may they suffer the wrath of our Empire!!!!

But the real truth is...This is a global economy that needs more diplomacy than muscle. We need to realize that our independence and financial abilities to purchase those frivolities that our own companies produce is key to global growth. After all... who gives a shit what the latest and greatest "smartphone" can do, if we can't afford to buy it? Who gives a shit how many miles per gallon the Chevy Volt has... if we can't afford to purchase one?

As far as I'm concerned... the new Chevy Camaro ought to be twice as expensive(along with the huge SUV's) and the Volt half as expensive. Let the wealthy... who can afford a gas guzzling Sports car or an OFF road people hauler pay for the price of a car that would benefit a huge chunk of the population. But that's not the way it works... is it? It's always the product that COULD benefit the most people that are priced out of the "people's" means.

This is Corporatism in a nutshell.

 

[flacaltenn]

SteelPlate:

As far as I'm concerned... the new Chevy Camaro ought to be twice as expensive(along with the huge SUV's) and the Volt half as expensive. Let the wealthy... who can afford a gas guzzling Sports car or an OFF road people hauler pay for the price of a car that would benefit a huge chunk of the population. But that's not the way it works... is it? It's always the product that COULD benefit the most people that are priced out of the "people's" means.

This is Corporatism in a nutshell.

You're understanding of "corporatism" is disturbingly backwards. And so is your prescription for determining pricing with TOTAL DISREGARD to actual cost of goods. I don't know whatthehell the political label for all that is.. But you are new species..

From Wikipedia...

Corporatist types of community and social interaction are common to many ideologies, including: absolutism, capitalism, conservatism, fascism, liberalism, progressivism, reactionism, socialism, and syndicalism

So all that includes everything from Mussolini to Lenin.

But I DO KNOW that when corporations are PRIVATELY HELD, but essentially CENTRALLY DIRECTED (as in govt) -- THAT is National Socialism under Mussolini. And THAT is what you would need to make Camaros and Volts invert their price..

 

[uscitizen]

We seem to be the only colonial empire left on earth.
How many other countries has as many "protectates", etc as we do?

 

[Steelplate]

SteelPlate:

As far as I'm concerned... the new Chevy Camaro ought to be twice as expensive(along with the huge SUV's) and the Volt half as expensive. Let the wealthy... who can afford a gas guzzling Sports car or an OFF road people hauler pay for the price of a car that would benefit a huge chunk of the population. But that's not the way it works... is it? It's always the product that COULD benefit the most people that are priced out of the "people's" means.

This is Corporatism in a nutshell.

You're understanding of "corporatism" is disturbingly backwards. And so is your prescription for determining pricing with TOTAL DISREGARD to actual cost of goods. I don't know whatthehell the political label for all that is.. But you are new species..

From Wikipedia...

Corporatist types of community and social interaction are common to many ideologies, including: absolutism, capitalism, conservatism, fascism, liberalism, progressivism, reactionism, socialism, and syndicalism

So all that includes everything from Mussolini to Lenin.

But I DO KNOW that when corporations are PRIVATELY HELD, but essentially CENTRALLY DIRECTED (as in govt) -- THAT is National Socialism under Mussolini. And THAT is what you would need to make Camaros and Volts invert their price..

Really? That's what you think?

I guess it depends on what your(as a country's) priorities are... performance vs. Economy.

Let's face it... the Volt has the latest and greatest technology.... the Camaro is just the latest version of the same old/same old. Who gives a shit whether you get stopped at the same red light 1/4 mile away?

Don't get me wrong.. the Camaro... the Challenger, the Mustang... are really cool looking cars.... But personally... I like my 2008 Scion XB. It gets 28 MPG... which is not terribly bad... and hauls all my PA equipment when our group has a gig.

The Volt is the early stage of a revolution.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

We need Ron Paul in the Senate to keep both parties honest.

He can do just as well as president. Maybe better because of increased airtime.

I don't think enough people are crazy enough to elect him President.

The american people have gone way beyond crazy and are at insane. Electing the same type of slime ball, status quo, party line politicians every damn time is insane. We're not sane enough to vote for him. When the man who makes the most sense, and has an almost untouchable record, is declared unelectable then we have a problem. Nope, we don't want him, we want someone who won't change a damn thing about the direction the country is headed, that's for us.

Ron Paul makes a lot of sense, but his isolationist foreign policy would be a disaster. He's totally senseless when it comes to the military as well, because our military strength is what makes everything possible in this country.

Name one of his policies that are isolationist. And remember, non-interventionist =/= isolationist. And honestly, do you enjoy the thought of 5000+ american soldiers dead and over a trillion dollars wasted on some shit hole countries? Is that you idea of a good foreign policy?

 

[flacaltenn]

The latest/greatest technology in cars SteelPlate was the introduction of hybrid electric designs. The Volt simply threw out the balance between having an ICE as an auxillary charger. Nothing new there at all. It's dirtier than your Scion if you consider the power source, but let's not get distracted.

What i think? I think it's it's lunacy to subsidize stuff that corporations are making anyway. GE paid no taxes because the GREEN lobby gives them $100 tax credit for freakin' dishwashers? Does that push the foreskin of innovation and technology or help the planet's "fever". NO~!

But that's the prescription we get from EITHER monopoly party. The only difference is WHICH winners and losers they chose to shovel money to.. It should STOP. How many DEMs do you know that hate corporate subsidies but are FIRST IN LINE to gripe and moan about "how little solar/wind" get? Who do you think Big Solar and Big Wind ARE anyway? BP OIL for crying out loud is one of the largest INSTALLERS of Solar panels.. It's all a cruel hoax on the supporters of the current 2 parties. It's a charade to make us believe that there exist REAL competition between REAL heartfelt political solutions.

I'd rather debate a busload of committed Socialists ANYDAY -- then fart around with this sophomoric REP/DEM feuding..

 

[Wacky Quacky]

He can do just as well as president. Maybe better because of increased airtime.



The american people have gone way beyond crazy and are at insane. Electing the same type of slime ball, status quo, party line politicians every damn time is insane. We're not sane enough to vote for him. When the man who makes the most sense, and has an almost untouchable record, is declared unelectable then we have a problem. Nope, we don't want him, we want someone who won't change a damn thing about the direction the country is headed, that's for us.

Ron Paul makes a lot of sense, but his isolationist foreign policy would be a disaster. He's totally senseless when it comes to the military as well, because our military strength is what makes everything possible in this country.

I agree 1000%.

Who gives a shit if the fucking Chinese try to repossess the Pentagon.

.

.

Our current foreign and debt policies are what's allowing that to happen.