Criminalizing speech

My point was that there are plenty of inane, obscure laws still on the books that, if enforced, would make Allred's head spin.

To Emma: I got your point.

re: blue laws ...

As a conservative and all that, don't you believe a private business should be allowed to choose if they remain open on Sunday? Why should government force them to close ?

To Emma: Few Americans objected to retail stores doing business on Sundays. It was liberals attacking blue laws that were rarely enforced that made them such hypocrites. The history of the 20th century shows that Socialists simply wanted to replace a Christian society’s blue laws with more stringent laws of their own. They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams not only in writing socialism’s laws but in enforcing them as well.
 
My point was that there are plenty of inane, obscure laws still on the books that, if enforced, would make Allred's head spin.

To Emma: I got your point.

re: blue laws ...

As a conservative and all that, don't you believe a private business should be allowed to choose if they remain open on Sunday? Why should government force them to close ?

To Emma: Few Americans objected to retail stores doing business on Sundays. It was liberals attacking blue laws that were rarely enforced that made them such hypocrites. The history of the 20th century shows that Socialists simply wanted to replace a Christian society’s blue laws with more stringent laws of their own. They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams not only in writing socialism’s laws but in enforcing them as well.

That really doesn't address my question to you ...
 
My point was that there are plenty of inane, obscure laws still on the books that, if enforced, would make Allred's head spin.

To Emma: I got your point.

re: blue laws ...

As a conservative and all that, don't you believe a private business should be allowed to choose if they remain open on Sunday? Why should government force them to close ?

To Emma: Few Americans objected to retail stores doing business on Sundays. It was liberals attacking blue laws that were rarely enforced that made them such hypocrites. The history of the 20th century shows that Socialists simply wanted to replace a Christian society’s blue laws with more stringent laws of their own. They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams not only in writing socialism’s laws but in enforcing them as well.

That really doesn't address my question to you ...

To Emma: I’ll give you the same answer I gave to the other 10,000 clever little liberals I’ve come across in 12 years of posting messages. Every one of them assumed they invented asking questions as a debating technique.

To be precise, I decide which questions I will answer —— if any. Unless I want to elaborate on a theme cunning, and/or loaded, questions go unanswered. If you have something to say —— say it. In Short: I’m not going to make your case for you.

For future reference should you decide to read and respond to my messages. I do not engage in Socratic elenchus either. I say what I have to say and I expect others to do the same.
 
Uhh, I don't get your point.

Unless your point is that "free speech" means liberals aren't allowed to criticize Rush Limbaugh.

Sorry, but where in the 1st amendment does it say you're allowed to say no one is allowed to complain about Rush Limbaugh's speech?

To OooPooPahDoo: You have no business responding if you don’t understand the difference between criminalizing political speech and simply criticizing Rush. I’m not going to explain it to you.


??? Really? Would you kindly just listen to your morning DJ show and not post here in the future?

To OooPooPahDoo: Better still, do not read my messages. Or is it that you do not want anyone reading them?



Nobody has criminalized Rush's speech.
 
Your issue is with the Florida state legislature, not Allred.

To C_Clayton_Jones: My issue is with liberals trying to criminalize speech. So-called hate speech is ludicrous. The most offensive speech requires the most protection. No doubt, liberals will increase hate speech infractions; so I’d make touchy-feely speech a hate crime in order to restore fairness.

Hate crimes are a bigger travesty than is hate speech. A crime is a crime. Codifying “Hate crimes” is discriminatory in that it makes one victim more important than another in the eyes of the law. If ever the slippery slope argument was applicable it is in convicting an accused defendant based on their motive. The recent conviction of Dharun Ravi is a case in point:


The most serious charges — bias intimidation based on sexual orientation, a hate crime — carry up to 10 years in prison each. Legal experts said the most Ravi would probably get all together at sentencing May 21 would be 10 years.

The next excerpt shows that the law is already halfway down the slippery slope:

Ravi was not charged with causing Clementi's death, and the suicide remained largely in the background at the trial, though some witnesses mentioned it and the jury was told Clementi had taken his life. Prosecutors were not allowed to argue directly that the spying led to his death; defense lawyers were barred from saying there were other reasons he killed himself.

Former Rutgers student convicted in webcam case
By GEOFF MULVIHILL | Associated Press – 18 hrs ago

Former Rutgers student convicted in webcam case - Yahoo! News

The entire case stinks to high heaven. Only an idiot would believe that Ravi’s “motive” was not the critical factor in his conviction:

. . . defense lawyers were barred from saying there were other reasons he killed himself.
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The dirtbag has 14 other convictions to worry about. WITNESS TAMPERING, etc. I've posted them enough for hate masters to understand, if that is possible. Ravi convicted himself by the response to the investigation. Not just a "bias crime"; the crud played with the judicial system. Great guy for haters, 15 convictions.
 
Rush gets slammed by the Left all of the time.

He sure does - and for damn good reason.

Slobs like Limbaugh are free to shoot their obnoxious mouths off to their heart's content in this great country - as they should be. Just one thing, however: they should be prepared to suffer the consequences when they do, and "getting slammed by the Left all of the time" is most certainly one of those consequences.
 

To OooPooPahDoo: You have no business responding if you don’t understand the difference between criminalizing political speech and simply criticizing Rush. I’m not going to explain it to you.




To OooPooPahDoo: Better still, do not read my messages. Or is it that you do not want anyone reading them?



Nobody has criminalized Rush's speech.

Of course not. However, the Rush apologists choose to characterize the highly deserved criticism which is being heaped upon this cretin as such.
 
Sandra Fluke made herself a public figure...


that is debatable. are Sarah Palin's children public figures because they went on stage and camera?

Stop being an ass. Rush is a grown man who needs to straighten out his mind. After years of drug use hi addled brain needs cleansing

Fluke is a grown woman, not a child. She let herself be used by Democrats.
 
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Sandra Fluke made herself a public figure...


that is debatable. are Sarah Palin's children public figures because they went on stage and camera?

Stop being an ass. Rush is a grown man who needs to straighten out his mind. After years of drug use hi addled brain needs cleansing

Fluke is a grown woman, not a child. She let herself be used by Democrats.


used ... like a slut, right?
 
that is debatable. are Sarah Palin's children public figures because they went on stage and camera?

Stop being an ass. Rush is a grown man who needs to straighten out his mind. After years of drug use hi addled brain needs cleansing
Fluke is a grown woman, not a child. She let herself be used by Democrats.

used ... like a slut, right?
No, like an idiot.

She'll be discarded once her utility is over, and her best current Dem buds won't return her calls.
 
Fluke is a grown woman, not a child. She let herself be used by Democrats.

used ... like a slut, right?
No, like an idiot.

Sure.

She'll be discarded once her utility is over, and her best current Dem buds won't return her calls.

Discarded .... like a slut?





I have to say, its amusing you think you can actually divine the future cell phone record of someone you don't really even know. Who are her "Dem buds" and how often do they speak now? When will the call frequency decline, at what rate, and how long before it goes to zero? Please, tell us all the details!
 
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My issue is with liberals trying to criminalize speech. So-called hate speech is ludicrous.

Then you have no issue, as no one is attempting to ‘criminalize’ speech, ‘liberals’ in particular. And the Florida State Legislature is hardly ‘liberal.’

Hate crimes are a bigger travesty than is hate speech. A crime is a crime. Codifying “Hate crimes” is discriminatory in that it makes one victim more important than another in the eyes of the law. If ever the slippery slope argument was applicable it is in convicting an accused defendant based on their motive.

Hate crime legislation is Constitutional, where an enhanced sentence may be imposed, as determined by the Supreme Court:

Wisconsin v. Mitchell, 508 U.S. 47 (1993).
 
used ... like a slut, right?
No, like an idiot.

Sure.

She'll be discarded once her utility is over, and her best current Dem buds won't return her calls.

Discarded .... like a slut?
If you'd like to carry on both sides of this, be my guest. You can feel like you "won" easier.
I have to say, its amusing you think you can actually divine the future cell phone record of someone you don't really even know. Who are her "Dem buds" and how often do they speak now? When will the call frequency decline, at what rate, and how long before it goes to zero? Please, tell us all the details!
Does the name "Cindy Sheehan" ring any bells?

Predictably, you will fail to grasp the question.
 
No, like an idiot.

Sure.



Discarded .... like a slut?
If you'd like to carry on both sides of this, be my guest. You can feel like you "won" easier.
I have to say, its amusing you think you can actually divine the future cell phone record of someone you don't really even know. Who are her "Dem buds" and how often do they speak now? When will the call frequency decline, at what rate, and how long before it goes to zero? Please, tell us all the details!
Does the name "Cindy Sheehan" ring any bells?

Predictably, you will fail to grasp the question.

I haven't kept up with Sheehan's cell phone record, nor was I aware she was a law student. But since you are in the know on such things, fill us in.
 
Rush wasn't criminally liable so it's a non-issue from a legal standpoint. Fascists, however, with the cooperation of the liberal media use the issue to silence opposition speech. Note that Media Matters is running radio ads at about $100,000 each to try to intimidate radio stations. We are in deep shit in this Country when the left gets away with this crap.
 

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