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Breaking News: 'Hamas accepts Israel's right to exist'
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As of 30 December 2009, at least 112 out of 192 (58%) sovereign United Nations member states, as well as the Holy See, have formally recognised the state of Palestine as a sovereign state,[107] while a number of others grant some form of diplomatic status to a Palestinian delegation, falling short of full diplomatic recognition. The following are listed in alphabetical order by region.
Africa
* Algeria[108][109]
* Angola[108]
* Benin[108][109]
* Botswana[108]
* Burkina Faso[108][109]
* Burundi[108]
* Cameroon[109]
* Cape Verde[108]
* Central African Republic[108]
* Chad[109]
* Comoros[109]
* Côte d'Ivoire[110]
* Democratic Republic of the Congo[108][111]
* Republic of the Congo[108]
* Djibouti[109]
* Equatorial Guinea[108]
* Egypt[108][109]
* Ethiopia[109]
* Gabon[109]
* Gambia[109]
* Ghana[109]
* Guinea[109]
* Guinea-Bissau[109]
* Kenya[108][112]
* Libya[109]
* Madagascar[108]
* Mali[108][109]
* Mauritania[108][109]
* Mauritius[108]
* Morocco[108][109]
* Mozambique[108][109]
* Namibia[108]
* Niger[108][109]
* Nigeria[108][109]
* Rwanda[108]
* São Tomé and Príncipe[108]
* Senegal[108][109]
* Seychelles[108]
* Sierra Leone[108][109]
* Somalia[108][109]
* South Africa[113]
* Sudan[108][109]
* Swaziland[114]
* Tanzania[108]
* Togo[108][109]
* Tunisia[108][109]
* Uganda[108][109]
* Zambia[108]
* Zimbabwe[108]
North America
* Costa Rica[115]
* Cuba[108]
* Nicaragua[108]
South America
* Ecuador
* Guyana[110]
* Suriname[110]
* Venezuela[116]
Asia
* Afghanistan[109]
* Armenia
* Azerbaijan[109][117][118]
* Bangladesh[109]
* Bhutan[108]
* Brunei[109]
* Cambodia
* People's Republic of China[108][119]
* North Korea[114]
* India[108][119]
* Indonesia[109]
* Kazakhstan[120]
* Kyrgyzstan[110]
* Laos[108]
* Malaysia[109]
* Maldives[109]
* Mongolia[108]
* Nepal[108]
* Pakistan[109]
* Philippines[121]
* Sri Lanka[114][119]
* Tajikistan[110]
* Turkmenistan[109]
* Uzbekistan[118]
* Vietnam[108][122]
Europe
* Albania[109]
* Austria[108]
* Belarus[123]
* Bosnia and Herzegovina[124][125]
* Bulgaria
* Czech Republic[126]
* Greece[119]
* Hungary[108]
* Malta[108][119]
* Moldova
* Montenegro[127]
* Poland[109]
* Romania[108]
* Russia[109]
* Serbia[109]
* Slovakia[128]
* Ukraine[129]
* Vatican City[114]
Western Asia
* Bahrain[109]
* Cyprus[108][130]
* Iran[109]
* Iraq[109]
* Jordan[109]
* Kuwait[109]
* Lebanon[109]
* Oman[109]
* Qatar[109]
* Saudi Arabia[109]
* Syria[109]
* Turkey[109]
* United Arab Emirates[109]
* Yemen[108][109]
Oceania
* Vanuatu[114]
Africa
* Algeria[108][109]
* Angola[108]
* Benin[108][109]
* Botswana[108]
* Burkina Faso[108][109]
* Burundi[108]
* Cameroon[109]
* Cape Verde[108]
* Central African Republic[108]
* Chad[109]
* Comoros[109]
* Côte d'Ivoire[110]
* Democratic Republic of the Congo[108][111]
* Republic of the Congo[108]
* Djibouti[109]
* Equatorial Guinea[108]
* Egypt[108][109]
* Ethiopia[109]
* Gabon[109]
* Gambia[109]
* Ghana[109]
* Guinea[109]
* Guinea-Bissau[109]
* Kenya[108][112]
* Libya[109]
* Madagascar[108]
* Mali[108][109]
* Mauritania[108][109]
* Mauritius[108]
* Morocco[108][109]
* Mozambique[108][109]
* Namibia[108]
* Niger[108][109]
* Nigeria[108][109]
* Rwanda[108]
* São Tomé and Príncipe[108]
* Senegal[108][109]
* Seychelles[108]
* Sierra Leone[108][109]
* Somalia[108][109]
* South Africa[113]
* Sudan[108][109]
* Swaziland[114]
* Tanzania[108]
* Togo[108][109]
* Tunisia[108][109]
* Uganda[108][109]
* Zambia[108]
* Zimbabwe[108]
North America
* Costa Rica[115]
* Cuba[108]
* Nicaragua[108]
South America
* Ecuador
* Guyana[110]
* Suriname[110]
* Venezuela[116]
Asia
* Afghanistan[109]
* Armenia
* Azerbaijan[109][117][118]
* Bangladesh[109]
* Bhutan[108]
* Brunei[109]
* Cambodia
* People's Republic of China[108][119]
* North Korea[114]
* India[108][119]
* Indonesia[109]
* Kazakhstan[120]
* Kyrgyzstan[110]
* Laos[108]
* Malaysia[109]
* Maldives[109]
* Mongolia[108]
* Nepal[108]
* Pakistan[109]
* Philippines[121]
* Sri Lanka[114][119]
* Tajikistan[110]
* Turkmenistan[109]
* Uzbekistan[118]
* Vietnam[108][122]
Europe
* Albania[109]
* Austria[108]
* Belarus[123]
* Bosnia and Herzegovina[124][125]
* Bulgaria
* Czech Republic[126]
* Greece[119]
* Hungary[108]
* Malta[108][119]
* Moldova
* Montenegro[127]
* Poland[109]
* Romania[108]
* Russia[109]
* Serbia[109]
* Slovakia[128]
* Ukraine[129]
* Vatican City[114]
Western Asia
* Bahrain[109]
* Cyprus[108][130]
* Iran[109]
* Iraq[109]
* Jordan[109]
* Kuwait[109]
* Lebanon[109]
* Oman[109]
* Qatar[109]
* Saudi Arabia[109]
* Syria[109]
* Turkey[109]
* United Arab Emirates[109]
* Yemen[108][109]
Oceania
* Vanuatu[114]
Marc39
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As of 30 December 2009, at least 112 out of 192 (58%) sovereign United Nations member states, as well as the Holy See, have formally recognised the state of Palestine as a sovereign state,[107] while a number of others grant some form of diplomatic status to a Palestinian delegation, falling short of full diplomatic recognition. The following are listed in alphabetical order by region.
Except, Israel IS Palestine and Israel is a sovereign state, you mental patient.
San Remo Resolution...
The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory, to be selected by the said Powers. The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 8, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people...
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As of 30 December 2009, at least 112 out of 192 (58%) sovereign United Nations member states, as well as the Holy See, have formally recognised the state of Palestine as a sovereign state,[107] while a number of others grant some form of diplomatic status to a Palestinian delegation, falling short of full diplomatic recognition. The following are listed in alphabetical order by region.
Except, Israel IS Palestine and Israel is a sovereign state, you mental patient.
San Remo Resolution...
The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory, to be selected by the said Powers. The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 8, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people...
You forgot:
The boundaries of two new states were laid down within the territory of the Mandate, Palestine and Transjordan.
It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties.
The Court held that the territory of Palestine was not transferred to Great Britain as a consequence of article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne and that residents were citizens of Palestine, not Great Britain.
and made it clear that in the eyes of the mandatory Power, the Jewish National Home was to be founded in Palestine and not that Palestine as a whole was to be converted into a Jewish National Home.
being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine
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And,
Furthermore, the occupation of a territory by armed forces cannot cause
a State to cease to exist. It is in fact recognized that 'no matter how great
may be the authority exercised by the occupying power which, to the extent of
its requirements, is substituted for the authority of the occupied State, the
latter's quality as a State is not affected by this provisional situation
which, by virtue of the Hague Convention No. 4 of 1907, merely has the effect
of suspending the exercise of its sovereignty. When, however, the situation
becomes stable, the ineffectiveness of the State is not always an obstacle to
its legal survival, even in cases where the annexation of its territory has
been recognized. Those States that were annexed by force between 1935 and
1940, like Ethiopia, Austria, Czechoslovakia or Albania, were in 1945 thus not
re-created but considered to have never ceased to exist. This is none the less
an altogether exceptional situation linked to the always specific
characteristics of territorial settlements in the wake of wars' (Hubert
Thierry, Serge Sur, Jean Combacau and Charles Vallee in Droit International
Public, p. 225).
Furthermore, the occupation of a territory by armed forces cannot cause
a State to cease to exist. It is in fact recognized that 'no matter how great
may be the authority exercised by the occupying power which, to the extent of
its requirements, is substituted for the authority of the occupied State, the
latter's quality as a State is not affected by this provisional situation
which, by virtue of the Hague Convention No. 4 of 1907, merely has the effect
of suspending the exercise of its sovereignty. When, however, the situation
becomes stable, the ineffectiveness of the State is not always an obstacle to
its legal survival, even in cases where the annexation of its territory has
been recognized. Those States that were annexed by force between 1935 and
1940, like Ethiopia, Austria, Czechoslovakia or Albania, were in 1945 thus not
re-created but considered to have never ceased to exist. This is none the less
an altogether exceptional situation linked to the always specific
characteristics of territorial settlements in the wake of wars' (Hubert
Thierry, Serge Sur, Jean Combacau and Charles Vallee in Droit International
Public, p. 225).
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You forgot:
Dummy, you're mentally retarded. I have fogotten nothing, moron.
The boundaries of two new states were laid down within the territory of the Mandate, Palestine and Transjordan.
Wrong, dummy. The Mandate only establishes a Jewish state. There are no provisions, nor, any intent, to establish a non-JEwish state, moron.
It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties.
You just made this gibberish up, shit-for-brains. Don't pretend you know what you're talking about because your brain is non-functioning.
The Court held that the territory of Palestine was not transferred to Great Britain as a consequence of article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne and that residents were citizens of Palestine, not Great Britain.
Wrong, dummy. You just invented this bullshit, too.
and made it clear that in the eyes of the mandatory Power, the Jewish National Home was to be founded in Palestine and not that Palestine as a whole was to be converted into a Jewish National Home.
Wrong, dummy. All of Palestine, including Eastern Palestine, now, Jordan, was earmarked for the Jewish homeland in the original Palestine Mandate. The Mandate makes no distinction with the West Bank, moron.
You are clueless.
being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine
Does not negate the Jewish homeland in Palestine, nor, does it establish a non-Jewish state, shithead. Furthermore, political rights are specifically not granted, dummy.
Once, again, you look like the dumb shit that you are.
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And,
Furthermore, the occupation of a territory by armed forces cannot cause
a State to cease to exist. It is in fact recognized that 'no matter how great
may be the authority exercised by the occupying power which, to the extent of
its requirements, is substituted for the authority of the occupied State, the
latter's quality as a State is not affected by this provisional situation
which, by virtue of the Hague Convention No. 4 of 1907, merely has the effect
of suspending the exercise of its sovereignty. When, however, the situation
becomes stable, the ineffectiveness of the State is not always an obstacle to
its legal survival, even in cases where the annexation of its territory has
been recognized. Those States that were annexed by force between 1935 and
1940, like Ethiopia, Austria, Czechoslovakia or Albania, were in 1945 thus not
re-created but considered to have never ceased to exist. This is none the less
an altogether exceptional situation linked to the always specific
characteristics of territorial settlements in the wake of wars' (Hubert
Thierry, Serge Sur, Jean Combacau and Charles Vallee in Droit International
Public, p. 225).
Shit brain, you're cutting and pasting irrelevant information to appear that you know what you're talking about, which you do not.
The West Bank is not sovereign Arab territory and cannot be occupied, dummy.
Toronado3800
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Good lord. I disagree almost entirely but haven't called anyone dummy!
Rush has really dumbed down political conversations in America.
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This whole discussion about if Palestine, Israel, or Taiwan, is really a country politically is interesting. Seems the military situation is the only thing which is keeping Taiwan effectively independent.
Rush has really dumbed down political conversations in America.
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This whole discussion about if Palestine, Israel, or Taiwan, is really a country politically is interesting. Seems the military situation is the only thing which is keeping Taiwan effectively independent.
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The flaw in logic present in your argument is the same used by Zionists to justify Israel's collective punishment of Palestinians. The argument runs thus:I see no logic problem. My opinion is a world with a strong Israel and weaker "Muslim" countries is a better place.
Prop. 1: Muslims do things I don't like
Prop. 2: Most Palestinians are Muslims
Conc: Palestinians are bad and Israel should punish them.
Prop. 2: Most Palestinians are Muslims
Conc: Palestinians are bad and Israel should punish them.
Few things are more immoral than massacring civilians. Ethical issues aside, Israel is a diplomatic liability to all of its "allies", especially the United States. America's relationship with one country, which has done nothing substantial to benefit the United States, has soured relations with the governments and citizens of scores of other nations.SO I support Israel because it furthers my interests.
Immoral? I don't think so.
See above.Sure the Jews have claims to the land. Sure the Palestinians do. How do I decide? "The Jews" cause me fewer problems.
You'll excuse me if I don't give your personal opinion on the issue that much weight.Want to change my mind? Get "them" Muslim countries to modernize and maybe I'll consider splitting the holy land up.
"Muslim countries" are irrelevant. There is an illegitimate squatter country, Israel, and the population it oppresses.
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Most of the world hates America until they get into a jam and beg us to bail their asses out. The Islamists are the worst offendors.
"Us"?
It's relatively clear that your loyalty is reserved for a specific country, Zionist, and it is not America.
Dummy, the majority of Americans are Zionists.
The majority of Americans can't point to Israel on a map.
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"Us"?
It's relatively clear that your loyalty is reserved for a specific country, Zionist, and it is not America.
Dummy, the majority of Americans are Zionists.
The majority of Americans can't point to Israel on a map.
Doesn't matter, Habib. The majority of Americans are in favor of Israel over the camel herders who gouge us with high oil prices and who sided with Hitler, Russia and who are terrorists.
The majority of Americans can't point to Israel on a map.
The majority of Americans can't point to anything on a map.
And?
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"Muslim countries" are irrelevant. There is an illegitimate squatter country, Israel, and the population it oppresses.
You are wrong, Habib. Israel is a legitimate, sovereign state, one of few with both League of Nations and UN endorsements. Furthermore, the Israeli settlements are entirely compliant with international law and you cannot factually refute this.
Why don't you get on your camel and blow yourself up?
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The flaw in logic present in your argument is the same used by Zionists to justify Israel's collective punishment of Palestinians.
Habib, you don't even know what collective punishment is. Israel engages in no collective punishment.
You're just an ignorant bedouin. LOL
In fact, the Fakestinians are engaged in collective punishment against Israelis in targeting civilians.
Allah Akbar! LOL
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Dummy, the majority of Americans are Zionists.
The majority of Americans can't point to Israel on a map.
Doesn't matter, Habib. The majority of Americans are in favor of Israel over the camel herders who gouge us with high oil prices and who sided with Hitler, Russia and who are terrorists.
This might have something to do with living a lifetime of propaganda.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziSTY408h6k]YouTube - Off the Charts[/ame]
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The majority of Americans can't point to Israel on a map.
Doesn't matter, Habib. The majority of Americans are in favor of Israel over the camel herders who gouge us with high oil prices and who sided with Hitler, Russia and who are terrorists.
This might have something to do with living a lifetime of propaganda.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziSTY408h6k]YouTube - Off the Charts[/ame]
Dummy, this has far more to do with the deaths of Pallies...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWIDZ7Jpdqg]YouTube - Hamas - "We desire death like you desire life"[/ame]
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Doesn't matter, Habib. The majority of Americans are in favor of Israel over the camel herders who gouge us with high oil prices and who sided with Hitler, Russia and who are terrorists.
This might have something to do with living a lifetime of propaganda.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziSTY408h6k]YouTube - Off the Charts[/ame]
Dummy, this has far more to do with the deaths of Pallies...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWIDZ7Jpdqg]YouTube - Hamas - "We desire death like you desire life"[/ame]
Not another MEMRI. Don't you have a credible source?
Besides, this is off topic of my post.
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Not another MEMRI. Don't you have a credible source?
Besides, this is off topic of my post.
You cannot refute the translation, dummy.
You are right. I can't because I do not speak Arabic like most people in this country. However, when many people translate something and they all say one thing and MEMRI says something else I tend to wonder.
MEMRI is a card carrying member of Israel's BS machine. MEMRI has been caught lying (always in the favor of Israel, of course) too often to be a credible source.
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Not another MEMRI. Don't you have a credible source?
Besides, this is off topic of my post.
You cannot refute the translation, dummy.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ&feature=fvw]YouTube - Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map."[/ame]
The BS machine
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX7rH4egQBU]YouTube - Rumour of the century (wiping Israel off the map)[/ame]
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