Energy Independence in 92 Square Miles

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    I've posted this on other boards, and the story is a few years old, but I recently saw some other news about this project, so it's still going strong.


    Energy Independence in 92 Square Miles


    Give Ausra CEO Bob Fishman a 92-by-92-mile expanse of desert land -- an area less than one-tenth the size of Nevada -- and he could power the entire United States. Fishman doesn’t control that much land, of course, and transporting electricity all over the country would get tricky. But that doesn’t make the power of Ausra’s solar technology any less mind-boggling.

    While most older solar setups depend on pricey photovoltaic panels, Ausra’s installations boast mass-produced mirror clusters that focus the sun’s rays onto water-filled tubes. When the water begins to boil, it produces enough steam to turn an array of turbines. Fishman estimates electricity generated this way will cost 10 to 12 cents per kilowatt-hour -- on par with power from polluting sources such as coal, and 50% less than photovoltaic power. “Photovoltaic is constrained because it uses high-grade silicon,” he says. “We’re using everyday materials -- just steel, glass, and water.”

    VC extraordinaire Vinod Khosla invested $25 million in Ausra last year, and Kleiner, Perkins, Caulfield, & Byers kicked in another $15 million, a colossal vote of confidence that has proven contagious. In November 2007, Pacific Gas & Electric signed a 20-year power purchasing agreement with the company that will generate more than $1 billion in revenue (Ausra’s first California plant is slated to be up and running by 2010), and Ausra officials are in talks with utilities in Florida and Nevada to cement similar deals. “I don’t think it’s out of the question for us to get 30% of the national grid within 20 years,” Fishman says.
     
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    More stupidity, press releases of dreams passes for proof in your mind, you beleive everything you read in a press release? This is why we have our problems, the gulliable and naive beleive all they read.

    I actually worked for the company or I should say a smaller company bought by the Giant French Company that owns this company. The Saleman for the Solar side of the business is a convicted drug dealer, caught selling Cocaine to a minor, he spent over a year in prison. He will say anything to anyone, he does not care, I watched him sell a contract for nuclear work over the phone, regardless of if we could do the work in the time he said, he under cut the competition with a pure lie. Which is what you need to sell Solar.

    Your article is very old, three years. where is the 92 square miles of Solar, if the claim was true why was it not built? Further they will use natural gas to produce the energy to boil the medium to power the turbines that turn the generators. Why use Solar at all, simple, they have convinced the public Solar is clean and worth the very expensive price.

    Of course you have to shove it down the throats of Californians first, which is easy, having a very large illegal mexican voting block that is under educated makes that easy to pass. Having the rest of the population that uses three year old press releases as a source of their knowledge guarantees the measures pass.

    Of course you must give the electricity to the poor at a cheap rate, so they have no idea of the true cost, and of course the other rate payers end up paying the bill of the poor.

    The date of the press release from your "article".

    More recent news is of a company that failed, failed to show that their idea works. That does not matter, just let Obama dump billions and billions of our money into the solar money pit and it will work, just read the press release, it says it works. Yet after three years it was not built.

    Financing woes shrink Ausra's big solar plans | Green Tech - CNET News

    Of course now this company has been bought by Areva, a giant corporation is France, by owning this company they meet the EU's laws to trade carbon credits, another huge scam.
     
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    Ausra, this must be a great Solar Company, Al Gore and Bill Clinton passed laws and authorized and financed the studies promoting the global warming fraud, as well as gave grants, tax subsidies, and free research to these Solar Companies.

    And now we find out its because Al Gore is invested in Green Technology, I thought Dick Cheney used his position to advance Halliburton, it seems when Democrats accuse Republicans, its only because they are guilty of the crime themselves.

    Al Gore invested in the fraud, AUSRA

    Gore Admits Financial 'Stake' In Advancing Global Warming Hysteria

     
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    Other than a few people like T. Boone Pickens and Ted Turner, state and federal land is the only options for large areas of land. That takes time.

    Why would they need natural gas to boil when they have lenses and mirrors and the sun?

    Illegals cannot vote.

    You talk a lot of shit. :lol:
     
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    How does a lack of financing have anything to do with whether the technology works?
     
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    It is just one indication. You can make electricity with potatoes yet banks do not finance Potatoe Power Plants, why?

    Of course we can dump a Trillion dollars into the banks, which we did, we dumped over a Trillion dollars into foreign banks, as we know Obama demands green energy, somehow Areva just found the funds to buy Altura, which failed in past, is it possible that a condition on bailing out European banks is they give loans to buy failed Green Energy Companies, is that possible at all?

    Yes, this is all the housing crisis, every bank in Europe was destroyed by just a portion of our housing market, yet we see that these European banks have invested billions in Green Energy.

    I say it here and now, the U.S. Housing market is the scapegoat, our energy policy has caused us to go bankrupt, our energy policy has destroyed the USA. We are bleeding, the GOP pinky in the Deficit will not help, Trillions of dollars is being given to the European Union, and everywhere we look we see the single largest government investment in a single, proven failed, industry, the Green Energy Industry.

    California has not balanced its budget in years, this year alone we owe an extra 24 billion dollars, last year it 20 billion dollars, the year before it was 20 billion dollars, etc., etc..

    California was not investing in housing, they did invest in Green Energy, direct grants, loans, subsidies, tariffs, laws, rules, regulations, fines, enforcement, new agencies to address global warming and energy.

    Instead of concentrating on the industry that is proven, the entire World has pursued something that has failed repeatedly, Green Energy. We are told its housing, pure bullshit. It is Energy, so I can not prove it. Big deal, which is worth more on Wall Street. Housing or Energy.

    Housing or Energy, which is the more important commodity thus more likely to destroy the World's economy. Its houses of course, that is all anyone speaks of, just wait until Peak Housing Theory is revealed, watch the price of houses skyrocket.

    Oh wait, we had Peak House Theory, it was in Southern California's newspapers all through the housing boom, let me paraphrase, "No more land to build houses". I saw the articles all the time, look what happened.

    Energy is causing the financial collapse, not houses.
     
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    If the technology was as good as it sounds, the investors would beat a path to their door.

    Its not, so they have'nt.
     
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    In this case, its the other way around, the failed businesses are demanding the doors be beaten open through the force of government.
     
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    Why would the U.S. dedicate 92 square miles of land when they won't allow a single drilling rig with a 5 acre footprint?
     

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