Zelensky says no peace deal without Kyviv

[Rogue AI]

Putin had his chance to conquer Ukraine three years ago.
He blew it

He no longer has the tanks, artillery or air superiority or logistics to capture Ukraine

Keep believing that. You folks are a hoot!

Because that's a lie. That's why only the news sources designed to fool white wing rubes and to spread russian propaganda say that.

You might want to check the map. That doesn't lie.

 

[0311]

So PBS is a lying right wing new source? Read the article dumbass.

I wouldn't know, I do not watch PBS.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Such a good little MAGA MAGGOT The Ukrainians are a Free and Democratic People, fighting to save their Democracy. But I understand, as MAGA MAGGOT LEMMING you hate American Democracy and to see it destroyed as well. **** off MAGA MAGGOT

Who the **** are you? Must be some European scumbag fighting for democracy all over the universe, right? Too degenerate to be an American. Europeans are levels higher in that respect.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Their “murky essence”?

But you have no trouble with aputin. You’re singing his song.

Of course I am. Why do I have to have any trouble with Putin? He's my hero fighting the evil of this world.

 

[TimFitz]

I've looked into the data.

While the west makes the claims that the elections that were held in Crimea and the Donbas were not legit, the real information on that data?


Is where a majority of those who lived there fled;

How Many Ukrainians Have Been Forcibly Transferred to Russia? – The Daily Sceptic

According to the UN, 2.85 million Ukrainians refugees are residing in Russia, more than in any other country. However, this number cannot be taken at face value, due to allegations of forced population transfers.

dailysceptic.org

The next time you “look into the data” you might try and look at a legitimate reliable source.

Not some right wing blog that makes little effort to hide it’s enthusiasm for conspiracy theories.

 

[Scoutster]

Keep believing that. You folks are a hoot!

You might want to check the map. That doesn't lie.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And yet the Russians slowly still gain ground, and they have far more people to bleed out than Ukraine does.

They had far more people on day one, too.

Yet here we are, 3 years later.

So PBS is a lying right wing new source? Read the article dumbass.

It says they are losing ground around a specific city.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Keep believing that. You folks are a hoot!

You might want to check the map. That doesn't lie.

I did. Look at that new Russian territory Ukraine controls.

 

[martybegan]

They had far more people on day one, too.

Yet here we are, 3 years later.



It says they are losing ground around a specific city.

And here we are with them controlling most of the territory they would ask for in a negotiation.

And the Japanese said they won at Midway, and retreating from Guadalcanal was a "transfer of forces"

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And here we are with them controlling most of the territory they would ask for in a negotiation.

Because they have failed utterly, and have no negotiating power to get what they originally intended to get. Your praise of the incompetent maniac is a bit misplaced.

 

[Scoutster]

They had far more people on day one, too.

Yet here we are, 3 years later.



It says they are losing ground around a specific city.

What else did it say? Would you like me to start quoting from it because there’s multiple issues with Ukraine right now they’re highlighted in the article so try not to minimize it because they’re real. Not to mention. The fact is birth rates are down dramatically, population loss is off the charts. They can’t continue this am indefinitely Russia has way too many more people they can throw at it. I would’ve love for Ukraine to have won I really would, but the reality is they’re not. I don’t see it getting better.

 

[martybegan]

Because they have failed utterly, and have no negotiating power to get what they originally intended to get. Your praise of the incompetent maniac is a bit misplaced.

What praise?

I am talking about what they would ask at the negotiating table, which at a minimum would be the territory they currently possess

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What else did it say? Would you like me to start quoting from it because there’s multiple issues with Ukraine right now they’re highlighted in the article so try not to minimize it because they’re real. Not to mention. The fact is birth rates are down dramatically, population loss is off the charts. They can’t continue this am indefinitely Russia has way too many more people they can throw at it. I would’ve love for Ukraine to have won I really would, but the reality is they’re not. I don’t see it getting better.

There are also issues in Russia. Those.lines have gone back and forth for a long time. With sufficient assistance, Ukraine can hold the line. Without it, they can't.

 

[Rogue AI]

I did. Look at that new Russian territory Ukraine controls.

The one being encircled by Russian forces? Yeah, good job, that's 50,000 Ukrainian troops who will never return home unless they surrender. The Kursk gambit failed the minute Russia decided not to pull troops from the front and instead moved troops from the interior to expel the invaders.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The one being encircled by Russian forces?

The one that was already encircled by Russian forces, when it was taken? That one?

The gambit worked, insomuch as refocusing Russian forces away from Ukraine.

You sure do have a high opinion of the failed army that has embarrassed itself with its incompetence in 3 years of war. Look at your map again. Look at it and ask yourself how such a large war machine has acheived such paltry gains.

 

[Rigby5]

For some reason, Trump attacks Canada and Mexico while handing Putin part of Ukraine without demanding anything in return

Sorry, but I think you have this backwards.
In 1991, the US wanted Gorbachev to release East Germany, and to take Russian nukes out of the Ukraine.
Russia did that, but got Sec of State Baker to promise "no eastern expansion of NATO".
And Baker lied.
We added over a dozen eastern expansion of NATO countries into old Warsaw Pact countries, in total violation of our promises and treaties, such as the Budapest Memorandum.
Putin deserves all of the Ukraine.
The Ukraine is historically not just part of Russia, but Kyiv used to be the capital of Russia.

 

[rightwinger]

Sorry, but I think you have this backwards.
In 1991, the US wanted Gorbachev to release East Germany, and to take Russian nukes out of the Ukraine.
Russia did that, but got Sec of State Baker to promise "no eastern expansion of NATO".
And Baker lied.
We added over a dozen eastern expansion of NATO countries into old Warsaw Pact countries, in total violation of our promises and treaties, such as the Budapest Memorandum.
Putin deserves all of the Ukraine.
The Ukraine is historically not just part of Russia, but Kyiv used to be the capital of Russia.

An expansion of NATO 35 years ago was not necessary

Putin’s aggression makes it obvious further expansion is necessary
Ukraine needs an assurance of safety

 

[Rigby5]

The one that was already encircled by Russian forces, when it was taken? That one?

The gambit worked, insomuch as refocusing Russian forces away from Ukraine.

You sure do have a high opinion of the failed army that has embarrassed itself with its incompetence in 3 years of war. Look at your map again. Look at it and ask yourself how such a large war machine has acheived such paltry gains.

I disagree.
Russia was never fighting the Ukraine.
It has always been the latest US weapons Russia had to take on.
Russia has been handicapped by these US weapons, so that it can't use planes, helicopters, ships, or missiles.
So Russia has been forced to fight almost entirely with tanks, which slowed down the whole war incredibly.

 

[Rogue AI]

The one that was already encircled by Russian forces, when it was taken? That one?

The gambit worked, insomuch as refocusing Russian forces away from Ukraine.

You sure do have a high opinion of the failed army that has embarrassed itself with its incompetence in 3 years of war. Look at your map again. Look at it and ask yourself how such a large war machine has acheived such paltry gains.

That isn't what happened. Russia did not pull any troops from Ukraine to Kursk, they moved interior troops to Kursk. That whole thing is a colossal failure by Ukraine.

What are you doing on the interwebs? You clearly should be in the Ukrainian high command as you seem to have it all figured out.

The map still shows consistent Russian advancement. Seems whoever it is up to seems to like advancing more and more week after week. You should address Russian high command with your issues about their pacing.

 

[Scoutster]

Can Ukraine face another year of war? - BBC News

Many of its soldiers are tired and exhausted after three years of fighting. The question – can the country endure another year of war?

www.bbc.com