Ukraine faces losing dignity or US support with Trump’s plan to end war, Zelensky says

[Hafar1014]

Its also why Poland is going berserk getting more tanks and artillery than God.

Poland is in NATO and Russia would last two weeks if NATO attacked them

 

[Rogue AI]

Ukraine is not landlocked.
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Way to miss the point. Try reading comprehension.

 

[Marener]

Poland is in NATO and Russia would last two weeks if NATO attacked them

Poland was already attacked by Russia.

Poland rail explosion: PM says blast was 'unprecedented act of sabotage' - BBC News

Authorities say the blast happened on a line leading to the border with Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

 

[Zincwarrior]

Way to miss the point. Try reading comprehension.

Try using the English language properly.

 

[Rogue AI]

Try using the English language properly.

Your inability to read is not my problem.

 

[marvin martian]

Just about everyone on the planet other than Russians and their Trump cult fellow travelers.

Moscow’s intentions are very clear. And there isn’t a govern,ent in Western Europe thst has any delusions about it. your empty claims notwithstanding.

“If Putin is not decisively defeated in Ukraine, he will surely go further in his mission to “return” lost Russian lands. The list of former Russian imperial possessions that could potentially become targets is extensive and includes Finland, the Baltic States, Poland, Belarus, Moldova, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and the nations of Central Asia. Nor can future Russian attacks on the former Warsaw Pact countries of Central Europe be entirely ruled out. If this sounds far-fetched, it is important to remember that almost nobody in Ukraine believed a Russian invasion was even remotely possible until it actually happened.”

Putin admits Ukraine invasion is an imperial war to “return” Russian land

By abandoning all pretense and comparing himself to Peter the Great, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin has confirmed that he is waging an old-fashioned imperial war of conquest with the goal of annexing Ukrainian land.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

I used to oppose it, but now I'm starting to come around to your proposal to have every last man, woman, and child in Ukraine fight to the death to protect Zelensky's and Biden's money laundering operations.

It solves the problem, right?

 

[dudmuck]

Biden escalated the war, and never moved towards peace.

Just support more of the same stupid war. Keep sacrificing Ukrainian Christian soldiers.

 

[Hafar1014]

Overthrowing Venezuela isnt war. Its smart policy to keep China away from our region, stop drugs and financial support fir terror. All opposed by democrats. Where the hell are they coming from

 

[sartre play]

Are some of you naturally this stupid or did you develop it over years? Here is a news flash for unless the U.S or other European nations put troops on the ground in Ukraine Russia is not going to be fully driven out and even without outside troops in Ukraine Russia is never going to fully take over the country. Now as we all know few if any here will support sending in American troops and Europe won’t send in troops so your options are continue the fighting for god knows how long or try and reach a negotiated deal and any deal will unfortunately involve Ukraine having to give up some territory that sucks but that is the reality. I have not heard any better options from the keyboard Rambo’s and maybe if the vegetable in chief Biden had taken some action while Putin was building his forces up on Ukraines for nearly a year before invading we might not have this mess.

There is a lot of blame being passed around. One question needed answering.
Shouldn't any country be allowed to run its self?
Not necessary for it to be one we like,
As long as it is not the one known for starting wars, or
trying to rule other smaller country's.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

 

[Couchpotato]

FireFly

What exactly are you disagreeing with?

 

[FireFly]

 

[Seymour Flops]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/21/europe/ukraine-war-trump-plan-zelensky-intl

Zelensky: I will not betray Ukraine​

Trump appears to be giving Russia almost everything it wants, with much of the text resembling the maximalist positions Moscow held during talks in Istanbul in 2022, shortly after the invasion and when its forces held more of Ukraine.

Basically, trump is giving Putin everything he wants and putting a gun to Zelensky's head and saying, "Take it or else. No one should be surprised. trump's number one concern, ALWAYS, is what benefits trump. In this case, he wants a peace deal, even if it means giving Putin everything he wants. We all know he is playing for next year's peace prize. Obama got one. He hates Obama. Now he needs one.

It is a strange form of dignity that Zelensky claims to be protecting. Young people dying, families being bombed out of their homes, resources drained in an already strained economy. So that he can hold dignified meetings with world leaders, secure in his position as his country's dictator, having ended elections.

Like most Americans, I do not understand that European mindset, which has brought them centuries of war. This is a European problem, that needs solving by Europeans.

The gun to Zelensky's head is a European gun, not at all controlled by Donald Trump. Zelensky will hold out until the last U.S. dollar runs out if we let him.

 

[TimFitz]

Hardly, I'm correctly pointing out how idiotic you loons sound when you make these claims. Putin is not some political newb. He has been there for years and done none of what you loons claim. Puts your lies in perspective.

Putin made the claim himself. You;Re just trying to pretend he didn’t.

your beloved fuhrer has been trying to hand Ukraine to Putin on a plate ever since Russia attacked.

 

[TimFitz]

Your inability to read is not my problem.

No, ut you supposition is ridiculous.
There is only one landlocked country on the Western border of Russia.

Belorussia, which is a Russian client state. Putin didn’t need to invade. indeed, Putin used it as part of his staging areas for the Ukraine invasion.

 

[TimFitz]

It is a strange form of dignity that Zelensky claims to be protecting. Young people dying, families being bombed out of their homes, resources drained in an already strained economy. So that he can hold dignified meetings with world leaders, secure in his position as his country's dictator, having ended elections.

Like most Americans, I do not understand that European mindset, which has brought them centuries of war. This is a European problem, that needs solving by Europeans.

The gun to Zelensky's head is a European gun, not at all controlled by Donald Trump. Zelensky will hold out until the last U.S. dollar runs out if we let him.

If Russia bordered the United States and invaded Canada, you’d understand very clearly.

You don’t know any history, and can’t seem to be able to read a map.

NOONE anywhere in Europe is in any doubt as to the Russian threat.

You, and your beloved fuhrer support Russian conquest and expansionism.

You want the Iron Curtsin to ring back down. Just as Putin intends.

 

[Zavulon]

If Russia bordered the United States and invaded Canada, you’d understand very clearly.

You don’t know any history, and can’t seem to be able to read a map.

NOONE anywhere in Europe is in any doubt as to the Russian threat.

It is simply not true. Even in Germany, the most popular party is AfD, and they denied "Russian threat". They do understand Russian logic and they can live with Russians.

 

[TimFitz]

It is simply not true. Even in Germany, the most popular party is AfD, and they denied "Russian threat". They do understand Russian logic and they can live with Russians.

AfD is not the most popular party in Germany.

They are pro Russian. And keep close ties with the Kremlin, citing as an outlet for Russian propoganda in Germany.

 

[Zavulon]

AfD is not the most popular party in Germany.

They are pro Russian. And keep close ties with the Kremlin, citing as an outlet for Russian propoganda in Germany.

Now, when the result of suicidal policy of Mertz became more and more obvious, it is. At least according YouGov polls.

AfD overtakes CDU/CSU in latest YouGov poll

The far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) has moved ahead of the conservative CDU/CSU bloc for the first time, according to YouGov’s regular “Sunday Question” poll, Kazinform News Agency correspondent reports.

qazinform.com