Zalensky rejects peace....Trump halts all weapons shipments

[Zavulon]

Putin did all the provoking, but he didn’t count on uniting Europe so strongly.

You really think so? Putin invaded exactly because of European "unity" with Ukraine.

Russia may never get Kursk back and there’s really no reason to leave an enemy to the rear, like Kaliningrad, so that’s probably gone too. The economy of Russia is in shambles, the second strongest army in the world is now the second strongest army in Ukraine and, given the restless constituent republics, it’s territorial integrity is suspect. Putin needs to solve his own problems at home and stop trying to distract his people with a “Special Military Operation”.

That was funny.

 

[there4eyeM]

What a small man we saw in that news conference? And Zelensky was there, also.

 

[justoffal]

The table is set for what?

Guy, quit pretending Trump is playing four-dimensional chess.

He's just a petty little man who got called on his bullshit today.

Now, yes, the Europeans are going to have to step up the breach, but this really isn't something that is going to benefit the US in the long term.

A European Union that seeks to be the worlds new Third super-power (After the US and China) will not benefit us if they start pursuing their own agendas.

They're going to pursue their own agendas one way or another. It's time for them to grow up and be an actual Nation instead of just a collection of ideologies. You want the status of nation? Prove it defend your own borders. The trade deficit that we run with them is heinous.... Why the hell should we do anything for them when they expect everything for free?

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Trump is a Putin stooge.

BIDEN lies^

 

[Zavulon]

1. If "defeat Russia" means repel Putin's invasion, NATO can enforce a Russian oil boycott so Putin has no money.

No, they can't. And no, even without money (which is simply impossible) Russia will continue to fight. May be, with wide isage of nuclear weapons. Russia definitely prefer local nuclear war to leaving Ukraine, so all you technically can do - is escalate situation to that level.

2. I believe Trump still has serious sanctions on Russia.

No problem. More Trump use dollar as weapon, lesser it is usable as an international currency. More sanctions means sooner dedollarisation.

3. The EU needs to step up support, the US is tapped out.

The EU without US nukes can only knee and gobble.

 

[Mac-7]

1. If "defeat Russia" means repel Putin's invasion, NATO can enforce a Russian oil boycott so Putin has no money.
2. I believe Trump still has serious sanctions on Russia.
3. The EU needs to step up support, the US is tapped out.

This is a disaster for Ukraine and for America

I wish it were possible to roll back all russian gains in the war

No one likes seeing russia benefit territorially from aggression

But without NATO intervention - and the euros are so weak they cant do it without the US - ukraine had no chance of defeating russia

So whats to be done other than accepting less than ideal peace terms?

 

[krichton]

Our mineral rights deal was a benfit to both the US and Ukraine. We were literally offering to set the whole operation up, in return for a cut of the profits. There was no offer that said "we get it all! muhahaha".

And how is this a peace deal? This is a business transaction, nothing more.

In the initial draft proposal, Trump wanted 500 billion in minerals and 50% ownership of Ukraine's resources, etc. Nuff said.

 

[Mac1958]

What a small man we saw in that news conference? And Zelensky was there, also.

It was the Leader of the Free World vs. two middle school bullies.

 

[Mac-7]

Cons prefer human trafficking, hence the red carpet for the Tates.

Thats a side show

And so are you

We have bigger fish to fry

 

[Hollie]

If Trump wanted peace he'd give Ukraine all the weapons they want. Then negotiations would be on an even keel.
Putin would have to make concessions, and Zelensky would have to make concessions. They both need peace soon - not just Zelensky.

Unfortunately, our illegitimate President wants to let Putin rape Ukraine from one end while he rapes Ukraine from the other.

Trump's 'Art of the Deal' is just to F*K over anyone he can.

Somebody pays for the little comedian getting all the weapons he wants.

Leftists have this quaint notion that US taxpayers are an endless well of money to throw at punk dictators.

 

[konradv]

Thats a side show

And so are you

We have bigger fish to fry

MAGA’s hypocrisy is the show and THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!

 

[krichton]

Ukraine cannot defeat russia without direct, boots on the ground NATO intervention

Trump understands that

Libs such as Mac1958 do not

Don't you think, Ukraine would be in a far better situation right now, if the US had no handicapped their ability to use long range weapons for so long? We could have given them a lot more weapons as well. This has hampered Ukraine far more than Russia's fighting capability.

 

[krichton]

Trump hates Zelensky, so therefore does the flock.

This was performative cruelty.

The key line: The orange buffoon saying "this is gonna be great teevee". That's how his head works.

They are ALL repeating the same lie Putin told Trump, and now Trump tells his all his sheep.

 

[Hollie]

MAGA’s hypocrisy is the show and THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!

THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING! as the little comedian was told he didn’t have an entitlement to taxpayer dollars.

He wasn’t dealing with a comatose Joe Biden and the weasel Blinken who he could dictate and give orders to.

 

[Hollie]

They are ALL repeating the same lie Putin told Trump, and now Trump tells his all his sheep.

Aww. You miss the circus atmosphere of the little comedian ordering coma Joe around the White House.

 

[Mac1958]

They are ALL repeating the same lie Putin told Trump, and now Trump tells his all his sheep.

I guess we've learned that, if America were invaded by a foreign power and two of our states were fully occupied, it would be best for us to give in and take whatever deal were offered. Then no one would have to die.

Ya learn something new every day, huh?

 

[Mac-7]

Don't you think, Ukraine would be in a far better situation right now, if the US had no handicapped their ability to use long range weapons for so long? We could have given them a lot more weapons as well. This has hampered Ukraine far more than Russia's fighting capability.

You could be right, I dont know

We are way past that now

At this point I’m speechless

 

[Hollie]

I guess we've learned that, if America were invaded by a foreign power and two of our states were fully occupied, it would be best for us to give in and take whatever deal were offered. Then no one would have to die.

Ya learn something new every day, huh?

You have obviously been comatose the last four years. Foreign powers have literally accepted the Biden / democrat invitation to invade this country. Unfortunately, Americans have died as a result of the Dems/ Socialists promoting and assisting the invasion.

 

[Hollie]

Don't you think, Ukraine would be in a far better situation right now, if the US had no handicapped their ability to use long range weapons for so long? We could have given them a lot more weapons as well. This has hampered Ukraine far more than Russia's fighting capability.

Right. Just give the little comedian whatever he wants. Taxpayer money never ends.

 

[mikegriffith1]

If he's not working towards peace then let him provide his own weapons.

Zelensky wants a peace that will last and therefore wants a security guarantee. Is that so unreasonable? Given Putin's track record for breaking his promises, one can understand why Zelensky wants a security guarantee.

Something tells me he just wants to keep the gravy train going both for himself and his boomerang buck buddies in DC.

Do you really believe that? I hope not.