Zalensky rejects peace....Trump halts all weapons shipments

We were, until Trump and Muskrat were elected.
Now Putin can do as he wishes.
Haha no we were never at war with Russia or Ukrainian…they are at war with each other, which they weren’t until Obama’s more flexible with Putin policy that allowed him to invade the first time, and then the election of weak xiden that allowed for a second invasion
 
What peace did Zelensky reject? Or are you just being a good boy and parroting what some **** said on OANN?

Trump offered him away to end hostilities and he rejected it. That is his perogative. Zalensky made a counterproposal and Trump rejected it.
That is also a perogative.

We are under no obligation to continue funding the meat grinder. That simple.
 
Trump basically told Z, 'no mineral deal, no arms.' We are not going to keep spending money on a never-ending war. Zalensky needs to come back hat in hand and apologize for is rude behavior.

Or the Europeans need to step up to the plate.

Trump doesn't look good in all of this, he looked like a petulant child.
 
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I think Zelenskyy is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Yet he has been able to put one over on Biden and the Democrats. But then he (Z) is a one-trick-pony. He wants $$ for arms to fight an apparent non-ending war. He has no foresight or cognitive ability to think like Trump. His stupid, embarrassing display today proves it.
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I've always wondered if Z had some blackmail power on Biden.


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Zelensky is a patriot defending his homeland. Putin is the invading aggressor.
Not as simple as that. The US helped overthrow the government in Ukraine in 2014, and started a civil war against ethnic Russians. All designed to trigger a war with Russia. Morons like you buy into the narrative that poor old Ukraine did nothing and evil nasty Russians invaded them for no reason.
 
Or the Europeans need to step up to the plate.

Trump doesn't look good in all of this, he looked like a petulant child.
He want the one that showed up to someone else’s house begging for more money in sweat pants then insulted the host and attacked the host

Trump wanted to end the bloodshed, z wanted US taxpayer money and their sons and daughters on the ground.
 
No, they can't. And no, even without money (which is simply impossible) Russia will continue to fight. May be, with wide usage of nuclear weapons. Russia definitely prefer local nuclear war to leaving Ukraine, so all you technically can do - is escalate situation to that level.
You keep threatening nuclear war. Bad idea. Sanctions and a Russian oil boycott can show Putin that a battle-scarred Ukraine isn't worth the harm caused to the Russian economy by continuing the war.
No problem. More Trump use dollar as weapon, lesser it is usable as an international currency. More sanctions means sooner dedollarisation.
That's where the economic contest is being waged, place your bets, on BRICS or US Dollar.
The EU without US nukes can only kneel and gobble.
The EU has nukes. France & Britain have about 500.
 
Ukraine is forcing their men to the fight.... they do not have the man power.... so what is happening is Ukraine is conducting a rocket and drone war and that will not be enough with restrictions on where those munitions can be targeted... they have even stopped using the jets we gave them....
This whole response by the Biden administration and their over reaction from day one has cost lives and has destroyed Ukraine the bread basket of Europe....

Okay, guy, I realize that you need to massage Trump's ego, but the reality is, the Ukrainians are very motivated. They know what happens when Russia runs their country.
 
Zelensky has a Plan B, of course. Go to his European buddies in Germany and France, get them to fund his war. Maybe he can get Macron and the German Leader to organize a Grand Armee to invade Russia right before winter? That's a strategery that has been tried before I think.

Europe is rich, no reason they can't fund this. Maybe the Swedes can raise taxes to fund the war.
 
Trump offered him away to end hostilities and he rejected it. That is his perogative. Zalensky made a counterproposal and Trump rejected it.
That is also a perogative.

We are under no obligation to continue funding the meat grinder. That simple.

No obligation, but kind of sensible.
 
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Nuland fuels theory that Western powers killed 2022 peace deal (In Turkey)​

Thanks for that link. I don't recall the MSM making a big deal about the 2022 peace deal.

Putin was still playing hardball with his stipulations, leaving Ukraine undefended.

Its up to the EU now to keep Ukraine in the fight for their independence from Russia.
 
Working towards peace requires willing partners in negotiating fair terms. Unfortunately, the trump/Putin alliance aren't offering any.

Trump just added additional sanctions to Russia so I don't think you know what you're talking about actually.

Zelensky wants a commitment from the US military... The problem is is that doesn't come for free that he already owes us half a trillion.
So Trump has decided not to extend any more credit to him and frankly he doesn't deserve it since he's already disappeared 50% of the aid that was given to him.

If a drug addict asks you for money to go to the store and buy a loaf of bread are you stupid enough to give it to him?
 
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