Yukon Glaciers

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There are people on this thread that have been flap yapping about a cooling trend for many years. Yet, by every measure, we are warming, and doing so rapidly. One of the best measures of whether we are warming or cooling is glaciers. They reflect long term trends.

 
There are people on this thread that have been flap yapping about a cooling trend for many years. Yet, by every measure, we are warming, and doing so rapidly. One of the best measures of whether we are warming or cooling is glaciers. They reflect long term trends.


If we are warming, why is it this year, the temperature is 10 degrees colder than it was this time last year? Go ahead, if you want to save the planet take the first step to heal it. If enough of you deniers of actual science remove yourselves, pretty soon their aren't any lunatics left and the planet is saved...

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Being a bit silly there, Toddster. When enough of the Himalayan glaciers recede far enough, agriculture for a lot of asian land is doomed. But that only affects a portion of humanity. No, we are not doomed by global warming, but our children and grandchildren will inherit a much poorer world than the one we have. If that is the legacy you like, fine.
 
Being a bit silly there, Toddster. When enough of the Himalayan glaciers recede far enough, agriculture for a lot of asian land is doomed. But that only affects a portion of humanity. No, we are not doomed by global warming, but our children and grandchildren will inherit a much poorer world than the one we have. If that is the legacy you like, fine.

How does Asian agriculture do when their glaciers are advancing?
 
There are people on this thread that have been flap yapping about a cooling trend for many years. Yet, by every measure, we are warming, and doing so rapidly. One of the best measures of whether we are warming or cooling is glaciers. They reflect long term trends.


That’s nothing. Glacier Bay glacier in Alaska receded 60 miles in 70 years.

IN THE 19Th CENTURY.
 
Being a bit silly there, Toddster. When enough of the Himalayan glaciers recede far enough, agriculture for a lot of asian land is doomed. But that only affects a portion of humanity. No, we are not doomed by global warming, but our children and grandchildren will inherit a much poorer world than the one we have. If that is the legacy you like, fine.
Who the hell are you to claim today’s climate is optimum?
 
Fortunately, I think we have the technology to adjust and continue to feed the world. Whether the countries of the world can cooperate enough to let that happen is another matter.
The climate change is going to affect what areas of the globe are arable and produce abundant crops. That is already causing huge migration of peoples from one country to another and causing a lot of social and political instability.
Instability socially and environmentally are not a good combination.
We should be getting it together, not pulling out of international agreements to work toward solutions. We will need the solutions, and if we wait, it will be too late.
 
There are people on this thread that have been flap yapping about a cooling trend for many years. Yet, by every measure, we are warming, and doing so rapidly. One of the best measures of whether we are warming or cooling is glaciers. They reflect long term trends.


That’s nothing. Glacier Bay glacier in Alaska receded 60 miles in 70 years.

IN THE 19Th CENTURY.



No shit we already had this argument a few times with old dementia..


Glaciers have been melting since the last fucking ice age.



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Fortunately, I think we have the technology to adjust and continue to feed the world. Whether the countries of the world can cooperate enough to let that happen is another matter.
The climate change is going to affect what areas of the globe are arable and produce abundant crops. That is already causing huge migration of peoples from one country to another and causing a lot of social and political instability.
Instability socially and environmentally are not a good combination.
We should be getting it together, not pulling out of international agreements to work toward solutions. We will need the solutions, and if we wait, it will be too late.

That is already causing huge migration of peoples from one country to another and causing a lot of social and political instability.

Where are huge numbers of people migrating because of global warming harming food production?
 
Fortunately, I think we have the technology to adjust and continue to feed the world. Whether the countries of the world can cooperate enough to let that happen is another matter.
The climate change is going to affect what areas of the globe are arable and produce abundant crops. That is already causing huge migration of peoples from one country to another and causing a lot of social and political instability.
Instability socially and environmentally are not a good combination.
We should be getting it together, not pulling out of international agreements to work toward solutions. We will need the solutions, and if we wait, it will be too late.

That is already causing huge migration of peoples from one country to another and causing a lot of social and political instability.

Where are huge numbers of people migrating because of global warming harming food production?
The melting glaciers are forcing Guatemalans to migrate, doncha know? :spinner:
 
There are people on this thread that have been flap yapping about a cooling trend for many years. Yet, by every measure, we are warming, and doing so rapidly. One of the best measures of whether we are warming or cooling is glaciers. They reflect long term trends.


That’s nothing. Glacier Bay glacier in Alaska receded 60 miles in 70 years.

IN THE 19Th CENTURY.



No shit we already had this argument a few times with old dementia..


Glaciers have been melting since the last fucking ice age.



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You notice Ol Fraud concentrates on the one region retreating an ignores the 29-55 regions that are not or or are increasing in the Northern Hemisphere....
 
You silly stupid ass, you want to use one day to show a many year trend? God, you people are so fucking stupid.
Lets use the House scenario, as the world is just too fucking big for you idiots. Ready for some science?

In your house you have a heater and A/C and during the winter time, if you dont use your heater, the whole house would get cold? Right? Dont fucking divert off, just say Right.
Now you come into your cold house and you raise the temperature of the house 5 degrees, does only parts of your house warm up, or the whole fucking house? Again, dont divert, just answer. So imagine the World, that you worthless libtards have been saying for the past 18 years, that the world has been warming up, how can my area, be colder today than it was last year. Warming year after year, means WARMING year after year. You idiots will believe what ever your liberal elites tell you, when they drive around in limo's and fly in private jest, and live in mansions that use more energy than a small city. As I said, if you want to save the planet go for it, just take a few other liberals with you, and when the trend really picks up, soon there wont be idiots and global warming anymore.

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Well the OP is correct....glaciers certainly are retreating. But only in some places. In other places, they are expanding as fast as my gorgan used to!:113:. Very well documented in here by Billy, Tommy, SSDD and most notably, Polar Bear.
 
There are people on this thread that have been flap yapping about a cooling trend for many years. Yet, by every measure, we are warming, and doing so rapidly. One of the best measures of whether we are warming or cooling is glaciers. They reflect long term trends.


According to satellite data we've basically been in a holding pattern since 1998. Of course that may not jive with the IPCC's "homogenized" data.
 
After billions of years of variance, the Earth was in perfect balance in 1860. The Glaciers stopped growing or retreating, beaches stopped eroding, and storms were normal.

Then we invented the internal combustion engine and threw the climate of planet Earth into a death spiral. Our lab work shows that by adding 120 PPM of CO2, er, nevermind, I meant to say that if you want evidence of the effects of this deadly CO2, turn on the Weather Channel. Storms, floods, droughts, fires, hurricanes, record low tornado activity, it's all there. All you have to do is surrender your wealth and freedom to a world government. Will that stop global climate warming change? At that point, what difference does it make?
 
There are people on this thread that have been flap yapping about a cooling trend for many years. Yet, by every measure, we are warming, and doing so rapidly. One of the best measures of whether we are warming or cooling is glaciers. They reflect long term trends.


Your Lord and Savior Albert Gorelioni, predicted southern Florida would be entirely underwater by now. Last I checked it isn’t. Could you check for me please?
 
Here's a (partial) list of the
specific glaciers that are growing


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  • India - Record snowfall revives 2,000 glaciers
    17 Feb 11 - Already more snowfall this month than
    1998 record for the entire month. Think you'll see
    this in the mainstream media?

    See India - Record snowfall revives 2,000 glaciers

  • NORWAY
    Ålfotbreen Glacier
    Briksdalsbreen Glacier
    Nigardsbreen Glacier
    Hardangerjøkulen Glacier
    Hansebreen Glacier
    Jostefonn Glacier
    Engabreen glacier (The Engabreen glacier
    is the second largest glacier in Norway. It is a
    part (a glacial tongue) of the Svartisen glacier,
    which has steadily increased in mass since the
    1960s when heavier winter precipitation set in.)

  • Norway's glaciers growing at record pace. The face of the Briksdal glacier,
    an off-shoot of the largest glacier in Norway and mainland Europe, is growing by an
    average 7.2 inches (18 cm) per day. (From the Norwegian daily Bergens Tidende.)
    http://www.sepp.org/controv/afp.html

    Click here to see mass balance of Norwegian glaciers:
    NVE - Norges vassdrags- og energidirektorat

    Choose "English" (at top of the page), choose "Water,"
    then "Hydrology," then "Glaciers and Snow" from the menu.
    You'll see a list of all significant glaciers in Norway.
    (Thanks to Leif-K. Hansen for this info.)
  • CANADA
    Helm Glacier
    Place Glacier

    Glaciers growing on Canada’s tallest mountain
    17 Nov 08 – The ice-covered peak of Yukon's soaring Mount Logan
    may be due for an official re-measurement after readings that suggest
    this country's superlative summit has experienced a growth spurt.
    See Glaciers growing on Canada’s tallest mountain
  • SWITZERLAND
    Silvretta Glacier
  • KIRGHIZTAN
    Abramov
  • RUSSIA
    Maali Glacier (This glacier is surging. See below)
    • GREENLAND See Greenland Icecap Growing Thicker
      Greenland glacier advancing 7.2 miles per year!
      The BBC recently ran
      a documentary, The Big Chill, saying that we could be on the verge of an ice
      age. Britain could be heading towards an Alaskan-type climate within a decade,
      say scientists, because the Gulf Stream is being gradually cut off. The Gulf
      Stream keeps temperatures unusually high for such a northerly latitude.
      One of Greenland’s largest glaciers has already doubled its rate of advance,
      moving forward at the rate of 12 kilometers (7.2 miles) per year. To see a
      transcript of the documentary,
      go to BBC - Science & Nature - Horizon - Big Chill


      Greenland Ice Sheet Growing Thicker

      4 Nov 05 - After gathering data for more than ten years, a team of
      Norwegian-led scientists has found that the Greenland Ice Sheet is
      actually growing thicker at its interior.
      See Greenland Ice Sheet Growing Thicker


      Rebellious Greenland Glacier Keeps Growing

      26 July 10 - Berlingske Glacier has steadily grown for the past
      100 years. And yet, it's not counted in the glacier inventory. Why
      haven't we heard about this growing glacier?
      See Rebellious Greenland Glacier Keeps Growing
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    • CHILE
      Pio XI, the largest glacier in South America, grows
      50 meters in height, length and density every day.
      See Pio XI - Largest glacier in Chile - Growing every day
    • NEW ZEALAND
      All 48 glaciers in the Southern Alps have grown during the past year.
      The growth is at the head of the glaciers, high in the mountains, where they
      gained more ice than they lost. Noticeable growth should be seen at the
      foot of the Fox and Franz Josef glaciers within two to three years.(27 May 2003)
      See New Zealand Glaciers Growing

      Fox, Franz Josef glaciers defy trend - New Zealand's
      two best-known glaciers are still on the march

      31 Jan 07 - See Franz Josef Glacier still on the march

      See also Pesky New Zealand Glaciers Growing

      See also: Contrarian New Zealand Glaciers Keep Growing


    • ARGENTINA
      Argentina's Perito Moreno Glacier, the largest glacier in Patagonia,
      is advancing at the rate of 7 feet per day. The 250 km² ice formation,
      30 km long, is one of 48 glaciers fed by the Southern Patagonian Ice
      Field. This ice field, located in the Andes system shared with Chile,
      is the world's third largest reserve of fresh water.
      Perito Moreno Glacier - Wikipedia

    • UNITED STATES
      - Colorado (scroll down to see AP article)
      - Washington (Mount St. Helens, Mt. Rainier* and Mt. Shuksan
      - California (Mount Shasta - scroll down for info)
      - Montana (scroll down for info)
      - Glacier Peak, WA (scroll down for info
      - Alaska (Mt. McKinley and Hubbard).
      http://www.glaciercaves.com/html/anewgl_1.HTM
    • SPAIN
      Glaciers growing in Spain (Pyrinees)

      10 Jan 11 - El glaciar del Infierno (glacier of Hell) has advanced.
      The mainstream media seems to have somehow missed this.

      See Glaciers growing in Spain (Pyrinees)



    • Antarctica growing colder - Ice expanding
      18 Apr 09 - "Ice is expanding in much of Antarctica," says this
      article. In addition, the South Pole has shown "significant cooling
      in recent decades".
      See Antarctica growing colder - Ice expanding



    • Antarctic ice grows to record levels
      13 Sep 07 - While the Antarctic Peninsula area has warmed
      in recent years and ice near it diminished during the Southern
      Hemisphere summer, the interior of Antarctica has been colder
      and ice elsewhere has been more extensive and longer lasting,
      See Antarctic ice grows to record levels



      Oops - West Antarctic Ice Sheet
      not losing ice as fast as we thought

      20 Oct 09 — New measurements by
      GPS Network suggest the rate of ice
      loss of the West Antarctic ice sheet
      has been slightly overestimated.
      See Oops - West Antarctic Ice Sheet not losing ice as fast as we thought
      West_Antarctic_ice_sheet.jpg



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    • Antarctica's Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf is growing
      7 Dec 05 – Scientists Joughin and Bamber re-evaluated the mass balances
      of the ice in Antarctica. "It is clear from the results of this study that the
      Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf is not rapidly, or even slowly, wasting away.
      Quite to the contrary, it is growing."
      See Antarctica's Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf growing



    • Alaska's Hubbard Glacier advancing 7 feet per day!
      10 May 09 – This from climatologist Cliff Harris of the Coeur d’Alene Press.
      It's possible that the glacier could close the fjord by later this summer if the
      current rate speeds up, says Harris.
      See Alaska's Hubbard Glacier advancing 7 feet per day!



    • Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back
      19 Feb 08 - A Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that there is nearly
      a third more ice in Antarctica than usual, challenging the global warming crusaders and
      buttressing arguments of skeptics who deny that the world is undergoing global warming.
      See Most snow cover since 1966
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    • Mount St. Helens’ Crater Glacier Advancing Three Feet Per Day
      25 Jun 07 - See Crater Glacier


    • Against odds, glacier grows in cauldron of Mt. St. Helens
      15 May 08 – See Glacier grows in cauldron of Mt. St. Helens


    • Mount St. Helens glacier (Crater Glacier) growing 50 feet per year
      September 20, 2004 - See Mount St. Helens
    Largest glacier in Argentina advancing
    15 Jun 09 – "Argentina's Perito Moreno glacier is (supposedly) one of only a few ice fields worldwide that have withstood rising global temperatures.”
    See Largest glacier in Argentina advancing

    Perito_Moreno_Glacier.jpg


    Alaska's Hubbard Glacier advancing 7 feet per day!

    10 May 09 – This from climatologist Cliff Harris of the Coeur d’Alene Press.
    It's possible that the glacier could close the fjord by later this summer if the
    current rate speeds up, says Harris.
    See Alaska's Hubbard Glacier advancing 7 feet per day!


    Glaciers growing on Glacier Peak, WA

    16 Oct 08 – Email from reader
    Before I moved to CO in 2005 it was obvious that the glaciers and snow
    had receded and rock was visible in areas all the way to the peak. The glaciers
    and snow are back now ... completely covered in white from top to bottom,
    and this is after the "warm" summer months here in the PNW.
    See Glaciers growing on Glacier Peak, WA
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    Glaciers in Norway Growing Again
    Scandinavian nation reverses trend, mirrors
    results in Alaska, elsewhere, reports the Norwegian Water Resources and Energy Directorate.
    See Glaciers in Norway Growing Again

    Svartisen_Glacier_Norway.jpg


    Glaciers in western Himalayas thickening and expanding
    Arctic ice cover above it’s 30-year average

    23 Nov 08 - A study published by the American Meteorological Society
    found that glaciers are only shrinking in the eastern Himalayas. Further
    west, in the Hindu Kush and the Karakoram, glaciers are "thickening
    and expanding".
    See Glaciers in western Himalayas thickening and expanding
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    Alaskan Glaciers Grow for First Time in 250 years

    16 Oct 08 - High snowfall and cold weather to blame leading
    to the increase in glacial mass.
    See Alaskan Glaciers Grow for First Time in 250 years
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    Growing Alaskan glaciers the start of a new Little Ice Age?

    14 Oct 08 – “Never before in the history of a research project dating back
    to 1946 had the Juneau Icefield witnessed the kind of snow buildup that
    came this year. It was similar on a lot of other glaciers too.
    See Growing Alaskan glaciers the start of a new Little Ice Age?
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    Himalayan Glaciers Not Shrinking
    Glacial Experts Question Theory of Global Warming

    15 Feb 07 - See Himalayan Glaciers Not Shrinking
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    Many people have asked why some glaciers in South America are melting.
    I think it is perfectly understandable. Remember, we have had two of the
    strongest El Ninos on record during the past 21 years. During an El Nino,
    a narrow band of the Pacific Ocean warms by as much as 14 degrees. This
    band of warm water travels east essentially along the equator until it slams
    into South America.

    It seems logical that the increased rainfall caused by El Nino, plus the
    warmer winds blowing across the warmer water, could hasten glacial melt.
    But let me say it again. I do not believe that this is caused by humans, I think
    it is caused by the El Nino phenomenon, which is caused by underwater
    volcanism, which is increasing due to the ice-age cycle.

    With this said, let me point out many glaciers in South America remain
    stable, and some - including the Pio XI Glacier and the Perito Moreno
    Glacier - are growing. The Pio XI Glacier is the largest glacier in the
    southern hemisphere. The Moreno Glacier is the largest glacier in Patagonia.

    I find it curious that news reports do not mention these two glaciers.

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    Contrary to previous reports, Arctic ice did not thin during the 1990s, say
    researchers at the Department of Oceanography at Göteborg University in
    Göteborg, Sweden. http://www.envirotruth.org/images/ice-in-90s.pdf

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    Alaska Glacier Surges -17 Mar 06
    See McGinnis Glacier
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    Look at what's happening on Mt. Baker, in Washington State.
    (Mt. Baker is near Mt. Shukson, where glaciers are now growing.)

    Mt_Baker_2000.jpg


    This is a photo of my friend Jim Terrell taken on
    Mt. Baker, Washington. Jim is more than six feet
    tall. See the black line about six feet above his head?
    That's where the snow from the winter of 1998/99
    stopped melting. Above that, is snow that never
    melted from the winter of 1999/2000. Why isn't
    the media reporting this sort of thing?


    Photo by Mazz Terrell
    19 July 2000

    ..

    Fast forward 11 years and we find...
    Snow still five stories deep on Mt. Baker road

    13 Jul 11 - “Deepest snow I’ve seen since the world-record year 1999, when the highway didn’t open for the summer,” says maintenance supervisor.
    TallSnowWallsWSDOT.jpg

    See Snow still five stories deep on Mount Baker road
 

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