Why teachers don't want the Bible studied in school.

[Woodznutz]

Really, I have the Encyclopedia of the World's Religions, a complete history of every religion that exists and has existed throughout human time on Earth. It takes moar than just a minute to learn them.

Surveys are abstracts that capture the high points. The common threads that run through most religions don't need much attention.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Gosh, science has given us so many wins, hasn't it?

Like, gosh--

List of withdrawn drugs - Wikipedia

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That has nothing to do with the thread so I have no idea why you are bringing that up.

 

[Moonglow]

Surveys are abstracts that capture the high points. The common threads that run through most religions don't need much attention.

Including Christianity.

 

[Woodznutz]

Including Christianity.

In America it is the moral basics that need to be studied using the domino theory to illustrate its importance.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Most can be surveyed in a short time. The point is to incorporate the knowledge of our religion into our history. Leaving it out leaves a pretty big hole in our historical knowledge. Try studying black history without the 'black church'.

You are talking about a comparative religions class. Thats a massive difference. You know that.

 

[Woodznutz]

You are talking about a comparative religions class. Thats a massive difference. You know that.

That would be a good start.

 

[Zincwarrior]

That would be a good start.

I would be open to that as an optional elective.

 

[Woodznutz]

I would be open to that as an optional elective.

The study of religion is absolutely necessary to prepare our kids for the world that awaits them. Just listen to the speeches at commencement ceremonies all over the country and you'll realize that our kids are not prepared to 'conquer' the world but are in such a weakened moral state that they will soon be conquered by the world.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The study of religion is absolutely necessary to prepare our kids for the world that awaits them. Just listen to the speeches at commencement ceremonies all over the country and you'll realize that our kids are not prepared to 'conquer' the world but are in such a weakened moral state that they will soon be conquered by the world.

Math, Sciences, English, writing, civics, balancing a checkbook, basic philosophy, logistics, economics, all should have a higher priority.

 

[Concerned American]

None, any or all of the above as THEY decide. For instance, let's say the school sets a threshold of at least ten kids all signing up for christian instruction, they might decide it should be general christian ideology, but what if they get 30 kids all interested in learning more about christian faith and 28 of them are Baptist, then they might decide to make the class specific to Baptist faith. The whole point is that:

1. Religion is a legitimate branch of learning.
2. That the school nor government have any say in picking or limiting the class.

I'm not saying that the school must have intensive study, but IF they have the facilities, means and interest, it SHOULD be an option open to consideration by them and for them, so I cannot answer for what they might find best suits them. Point is that if there is strong interest for this in the school district, then to limit or stop them in educating their children and using their facilities paid through their taxes as they see fit, /WOULD/ be a violation of their constitutional right to separation of church and state!


Again, I cannot say you are right or wrong. I can neither agree nor disagree. It might depend on the curriculum, where there is time or space, or pursued once a week after regular class. It is up to the SCHOOL, the students and parents who use that school to decide for themselves how best to use their facilities as any spiritual training would be under the student's and parent's direction and not the school's. Or maybe it wouldn't work there at all in their case--- the point is, it is up to THEM, not me.

I just see it as opening a can of worms. I have no problem with silent prayer or a group of kids who attend the same church saying a prayer before classes, but there can be no accommodation made by the school. It is definitely a deep subject that I feel is better served by not serving.

 

[Concerned American]

The study of religion is absolutely necessary to prepare our kids for the world that awaits them. Just listen to the speeches at commencement ceremonies all over the country and you'll realize that our kids are not prepared to 'conquer' the world but are in such a weakened moral state that they will soon be conquered by the world.

Religious study should not be approached in public education. That is a subject that is strictly within parental discretion. I believe a persons religious preference is a personal choice that should be supported and guided by the parents but the choice is ultimately up to the individual.

 

[Woodznutz]

Math, Sciences, English, writing, civics, balancing a checkbook, basic philosophy, logistics, economics, all should have a higher priority.

That knowledge is important but offers no protection from what awaits them.

 

[Zincwarrior]

That knowledge is important but offers no protection from what awaits them.

That knowledge is far more important. One can understand the minimum about religions with "Watch out for fanatics. They want to kill you."

 

[Unkotare]

World religions are usually one unit in high school History. Deeper study of faith should take place in church/temple/synagogue/mosque. Better yet, meeting people out in the world. And the more places you go and people you meet, the less inclined you will be to the idiotic hate on display in this and many other threads.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It has nothing to do with the so-called separation of church and state as the schools don't represent the state in the sense of making laws. They object because they fear that some students might take the Bible seriously which would upset their worldview, especially regarding the teaching of the ToE. They also fear that a force other than their own would unduly influence the students thinking and behavior. IOW, they see the Bible as a competitor and a threat to their authority. And in fact, it is.

What a steaming pile of hilarious horseshit.

 

[initforme]

Would this not open a can of worms with other religions needing to be taught then? What a mess that would be. How many different books would have to be included?

 

[initforme]

That knowledge is important but offers no protection from what awaits them.

What awaits them?

 

[hadit]

End of this year, eh?

I think it's on the Santa wish list and has been for years.

 

[Woodznutz]

That knowledge is far more important. One can understand the minimum about religions with "Watch out for fanatics. They want to kill you."

It's the "serpent within" that needs to be recognized and controlled. The commandments tell us how to do that. It is noteworthy that what is generally believed to be the Christian religion is actually the old covenant rules. The Bible reveals that true religion is to help others and keep oneself clean from the immorality of the world.

James 1:27, “Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world”.

Most people don't know that this is in there.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It's the "serpent within" that needs to be recognized and controlled. The commandments tell us how to do that. It is noteworthy that what is generally believed to be the Christian religion is actually the old covenant rules. The Bible reveals that true religion is to help others and keep oneself clean from the immorality of the world.

James 1:27, “Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world”.

Most people don't know that this is in there.

Thats excellent if you are a Christian. That is not the purview of public school.