Why teachers don't want the Bible studied in school.

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Why do MAGA posters hate teachers? Teachers don't set policy or curriculum.

UNIONS.

 

[SweetSue92]

I taught school for 32 years and just retired. And I read the Bible almost every day with very few exceptions.

I laughed out loud at this post. Sure, Jan

 

[SweetSue92]

I don't have a problem with the bible. That being said, I don't want the bible taught in public schools. I also don't want the Koran or the Tanakh taught in public schools. It is the purview of each individual parent to direct the morals of their children. Public schools need to get back in their lane and teach the 3 Rs. The government is NOT moral and never has been.

The Bible is my favorite book ever. That's first.

Second, I DO NOT want the Bible taught to a general population of children by God only knows who. What are we even thinking, that this would be remotely a good idea?

 

[SweetSue92]

I'd rather students in school learn the scientific method instead of fairy tales from a cargo cult.

Gosh, science has given us so many wins, hasn't it?

Like, gosh--

List of withdrawn drugs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Zincwarrior]

A kid could do a paper on that if he wants and get an A+ on it if its well written. But it's not up to a government employees to teach it.

Well according to Texas, it is.

 

[Woodznutz]

Well, separation of church and state doesn't prelude religious education in school, it just precludes the government deciding it. It precludes the government picking what religion you study, or none at all. It would be perfectly possible for schools to have a religious class once a day or every week, etc., so long at it was some outside religious authority teaching the religions elected by and agreed to by the students.

For instance, if 85% of the school were Christian, there'd be no harm in setting aside one class a week during or after school for a minister to come in and teach Christianity to the christian students much like any other subject; what the Separations Clause precludes is for the government itself to be in charge of it, decide or limit it.

The Bible is mostly history. Teach that and leave the religion to the churches.

 

[Woodznutz]

They don't so its an irrelevant question.

We don't know that.

 

[Woodznutz]

I found math class offered more than enough time and motivation for intensive prayer.

Finals will do that as well.

 

[Woodznutz]

I'm not sure I understand or agree, BW. The schools ought to be about EDUCATION. It should allow for some provision for students with religious interests to have experts in the field come in and give them weekly classes much like any college does. Just like they bring in an athletic director to teach gym and hold football games. It is a subject of learning germane to the participants by their own word.

There is no breech of any clause so long as the school (the government) stays out of it, and simply provides the forum (a classroom) for interested students to hold their classes which meet THEIR educational needs and standards as deemed by them!

True. A book as important as the Bible should be at least somewhat familiar to the west.

 

[Woodznutz]

The Bible is my favorite book ever. That's first.

Second, I DO NOT want the Bible taught to a general population of children by God only knows who. What are we even thinking, that this would be remotely a good idea?

Easy fix. Assign a chapter, then discuss it without drawing conclusions. The 'religion' part of the Bible is so vague that even many pastors don't understand it.

 

[Zincwarrior]

We don't know that.

Yea, we do. Your ignorance is striking.

 

[Blaster]

I read the Bible.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Easy fix. Assign a chapter, then discuss it without drawing conclusions. The 'religion' part of the Bible is so vague that even many pastors don't understand it.

Assign a chapter. Detail how all the politicians in the state violate it.

This will end in days.

 

[Woodznutz]

Well, that was a steaming load of nonsense.

Touched a nerve, did it?

 

[Woodznutz]

Assign a chapter. Detail how all the politicians in the state violate it.

This will end in days.

Not every chapter details the sins of the people.

The point of reading the Bible is to dispel much of what people think it says and replace it with what it actually says.

 

[Unkotare]

Touched a nerve, did it?

Just a funny bone.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yea, we do. Your ignorance is striking.

If a teacher moves to an administrative position, it is almost certain that they will support the policies of that administration.

 

[Woodznutz]

The Bible is my favorite book ever. That's first.

Second, I DO NOT want the Bible taught to a general population of children by God only knows who. What are we even thinking, that this would be remotely a good idea?

I suggest just a reading course, no teaching needed. Kids are being taught the 'godawful' truth about our history, why not allow them the Godawful truth about the most important book in the western world?

 

[Hafar1014]

It has nothing to do with the so-called separation of church and state as the schools don't represent the state in the sense of making laws. They object because they fear that some students might take the Bible seriously which would upset their worldview, especially regarding the teaching of the ToE. They also fear that a force other than their own would unduly influence the students thinking and behavior. IOW, they see the Bible as a competitor and a threat to their authority. And in fact, it is.

You cannot impose prayer in the public schools.

 

[Woodznutz]

You cannot impose prayer in the public schools.

It can be done voluntarily.