Zone1 Why is it so tough to believe in God?

[hobelim]

30 years as a therapist and a graduate degree in psychology allows me to see a victim. Grow a spine.

Whoop di do. Now thats desperation. Pathetic and funny. You should be embarrassed. But thanks for the laughs.

wow. I can only wonder how many lives you fucked up with your "therapy".

I graduated cuma sum laude from the very prestigious NYC school of hard knocks. Nya na nana naa. Grow a set of balls. It is written. "No one whose balls have been crushed can be a member of the assembly of the Lord."

ITS THE LAW

 

[Hafar1014]

Whoop di do. Now thats desperation. Pathetic and funny. You should be embarrassed. But thanks for the laughs.

wow. I can only wonder how many lives you fucked up with your "therapy".

I graduated cuma sum laude from the very prestigious NYC school of hard knocks. Nya na nana naa. Grow a set of balls. It is written. "No one whose balls have been crushed can be a member of the assembly of the Lord."

ITS THE LAW

Its Summa cum laude Balls without a brain are just hanging out

 

[hobelim]

Its Summa cum laude Balls without a brain are just hanging out

"Cuma sum laude" is a Latin phrase meaning "with highest praise."

 

[Hafar1014]

"Cuma sum laude" is a Latin phrase meaning "with highest praise."

Summa cum laude is a Latin phrase meaning "with highest praise. You spelled it wrong and reversed the words

 

[hobelim]

Summa cum laude is a Latin phrase meaning "with highest praise. You spelled it wrong and reversed the words

If thats all u hav to sae u really don hav much do yah. Professor. Oh yeah. 30 years as a therapist. I forgot. I'm very impressed. So here it is posted again with corrections to assuage your very delicate sensibilities sissy boy.

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30 years as a therapist and a graduate degree in psychology allows me to see a victim. Grow a spine.

Whoop di do. Now thats desperation. Pathetic and funny. You should be embarrassed. But thanks for the laughs.

wow. I can only imagine how many lives you fucked up with your "therapy".

I graduated summa cum laude from the very prestigious NYC school of hard knocks. Nya na nana naa. Grow a set of balls. It is written. No one whose balls have been crushed can be a member of the assembly of the Lord.

ITS THE LAW
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Ta da! Feelling any bettter? No? Thaats a shame.

But I did make some spelling errors for you to point out, so that might make you feel better. I hope it works!

 

[BreezeWood]

Yes, Jesus did know their fate from the beginning ...

not so sure anymore, their certainty may have been their achilles heel ... never trust judaism. you are wrong, that would not be in their book but for being recorded during the events - they felt forsaken is sadder than betrayed as not a rebuke of the heavens. was not a prayer, jesus never prayed for anything.

jesus was a pushover.

So take heart! As it is written, on whatever it is they write upon, judgment will come upon all the world like a trap.

it's written - final - judgement will come when good vs evil, one side or the other triumphs completely over the other ... only a few keep humanity from extinction.

 

[hobelim]

it's written - final - judgement will come when good vs evil, one side or the other triumphs completely over the other ... only a few keep humanity from extinction.

A few give ample warning to the intelligent before the harvest comes, an extinction level event, so a few survive.

When the sun shines it shines on the good and the bad. When it rains it rains on the good and the bad.

 

[Meriweather]

I don’t jump to one. You treat ‘spiritual’ answers as valid by default, but without a way to test or distinguish them from wishful thinking, competing traditions, or human psychology, there’s no way to know they’re true. That’s the entire problem.

This post started with the wrong premise and reached the wrong conclusion. Shrug.

 

[hobelim]

This post started with the wrong premise and reached the wrong conclusion. Shrug.

Great response. Very clever. You post something irrelevant to truth that was presented to you, you crafty devil!

Maybe no one will notice the obfuscation that shows how faithless you really are. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

 

[forkup]

This post started with the wrong premise and reached the wrong conclusion. Shrug.

You wouldn't mind pointing out what was wong about my premise wouldn't you, my shrugging girl, instead of simply asserting it? And while you are at it answer the question, not "conclusion" I posed at the end.

 

[forkup]

Great response. Very clever. You post something irrelevant to truth that was presented to you, you crafty devil!

Maybe no one will notice the obfuscation that shows how faithless you really are. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

I'm pretty sure that ship has sailed.

 

[Quantrill]

not so sure anymore, their certainty may have been their achilles heel ... never trust judaism. you are wrong, that would not be in their book but for being recorded during the events - they felt forsaken is sadder than betrayed as not a rebuke of the heavens. was not a prayer, jesus never prayed for anything.

(John 17:1-26)

Quantrill

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I understand your need to deflect from what you believe.

I wouldn't admit it either.

Can't even make a post without lying, can you?

That's because you have a new god, now. We all know his name.

 

[hobelim]

was not a prayer, jesus never prayed for anything.

It was a psalm. Psalm 22 that Jesus was reciting.

And about Jesus praying.

Jesus went off a stones throw away from his sleeping disciples and prayed to God for this cup to pass him by. The question is who was there to hear and write down what he said in silent prayer to God? No one.

With this in mind try to approach scripture not as history, it isn't, so try learning what the author was trying to say.

Some say Jesus was afraid of being crucified. Maybe so, but the cup he prayed for God to pass him by wasn't the crucifixion. This story shows that Jesus didn't want to SMITE the nations with a curse in a cup of wine.


I have not come to bring peace but a sword.

Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them" Jeremiah 25:15

Take this cup of wine and drink it, all of you. This is a cup of my blood, the blood of the covenant.

From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which TO SMITE THE NATIONS.

"Just art thou, in these thy judgments, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink."

He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.

 

[Quantrill]

And about Jesus praying.

Jesus went off a stones throw away from his sleeping disciples and prayed to God for this cup to pass him by. The question is who was there to hear and write down what he said in silent prayer to God? No one.

With this in mind try to approach scripture not as history, it isn't, but learning what the author was trying to teach.

Such a stupid statement. God was there to hear and write down what Jesus said in prayer. God is the Author of the Bible.

Such a lie you continue to preach.

Quantrill

 

[hobelim]

Such a stupid statement. God was there to hear and write down what Jesus said in prayer. God is the Author of the Bible.

If that was true then God sucks as an author. You might be too religious to believe this but only people write stories to educate other people, even if what they write about is a life changing experience with my God.

Even so your response just goes to show how deadly the curse in a cup of wine that Jesus sent his disciples around the world to preach to the nations was and remains, like the first century equivalent of a thermonuclear option on steroids, a far more devastating abomination causing a worldwide desolation for thousands of years.

He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.

Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them" Jeremiah 25:15


Thanks for proving the truth in what I said. Jesus came to bring a curse in a cup of wine to smite the nations.

Try to remember. You are just a corpse strapped to a gurney being dissected in an open arena to determine the cause of death for the benefit of dedicated medical students. The stench is great! Almost unbearable. So also try to remember that being repulsive isn't a superpower. Its just one of your many character flaws. So carry on! Bottoms up! No one will care if you threaten to set yourself on fire, again and again. You're already burning in hell.

Enjoy! Accursed one.

 

[toobfreak]

Such a stupid statement. God was there to hear and write down what Jesus said in prayer.

God wrote down on paper what Jesus said? Did God use pencil, pen, or fountain pen? Also, do you understand that Jesus is not separate from God, Jesus is a plenary portion of God, so what Jesus knows, God knows because they are really one and the same, just different aspects of the same thing, Jesus is merely in a form that man can relate to here on Earth.

God is the Author of the Bible.

Sure wish you had an inkling of proof of that.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Nonsense, He is a sovereign being, and as such, is not bound by your rules of evidence. That's not how it works.

A God That Is Good for a Goofy Person's Ego

It works for you. You wish you could get away with unrealistic claims by making such wild excuses, just like your imaginary Supreme Power can. Thinking rationally is so stressful for you.

Your God doesn't have to think, either; whatever He says or does is the infallible truth and superior to rational explanations. If you were created in God's image, He must be a drooling idiot.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Many of the religions, especially the Abrahamic religions were created to scare people via superstition in order to control their bad behavior, by convincing them that the invisible being will punish them even "after" their death if they behave badly.

He's making a list,
And checking it twice
He's gonna find out
If you've been naughty or nice
He knows if you've been bad or good
So be good, for goodness's sake

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

An analogy I have used before: There are pioneers/explorers and there are settlers. Some are happily settled in the physical world and have no need to explore beyond the physical into the spiritual. Unbelievers are like settlers who elect to stay where they are and what is familiar and unknowable to them; they see no need to go beyond what is familiar and what they knows. Why travel into the unknown and the unfamiliar? People of belief/faith are the explorers, the pioneer, stepping beyond the physical into the spiritual. They return with the testimony that the spiritual is worthy of exploring. Some will maintain the wilderness of the unknown, incorporeal spiritual is not worth leaving settled, physical knowledge and territory.

Settlers do not truly understand explorers/pioneers--and likewise explorers and pioneer do not truly understand settlers.

Go Away. Find a Choir. Preach to Them.

Irrelevant examples only convince those who are already convinced and are grabbing at straws to make themselves look realistic to those who aren't brainwashed.