Zone1 Why is it so tough to believe in God?

[Quantrill]

I can't get it. God doesn't give it.



I don't get faith in God.



Know some significance.

God does give it. But not to all.

Yes, you already said that.

What do you mean, 'know some significance'?

Quantrill

 

[pal]

God does give it. But not to all.

Yes, you already said that.

What do you mean, 'know some significance'?

Quantrill

Significance are almost only of Jesus trusty.

I know some.

 

[Meriweather]

Ok. I knocked and no evidence of a god was opened to me.. I asked questions, and no religious person gave me an answer more pertinent than "pray harder". What now?

Jesus was speaking of faith and prayer when he said to ask and it shall be given. If you are asking for evidence, then are asking the wrong being, and are also avoiding asking for what it is he recommends/views as worth asking God for.

In seeking God, are you clear about what you are looking to find? I was very little when I began my quest and all I wanted was to run into God exactly as he was. As I've grown older, it seems people I talk with who are searching for God, have a reason or a hope behind that seeking of what God will do for them. As a little kid, I had no such expectation, I simply wanted to meet God. That is why the Commandment of, "Do not put God to the test" resounds strongly with me. There is no test that contain God or works with God. The best I can explain is that God is self-contained and no test encompasses Him. It's like, that when it comes to God, tests may as well be non-existent.

I suspect those who want nothing from God are the ones who are closest to seeking and finding. It's not easy to want nothing.

To answer your question of, "What now?" I recommend you searching within yourself for the answer to this question: Do you want faith? If you sincerely want faith, then your prayer life begins.

 

[Meriweather]

The last one actually was. And all of them are in this OP. Do you think saying something to one person should be considered invalid when speaking to someone else?

I am merely pointing out that what is presented here is not physical/object evidence, but subjective. Just as you and I can look at the same picture and one of us thinks "beautiful" and the other one thinks "mediocre at best" both opinions are subjective, not objective.

I present my experiences, testimony. Your own opinions may well be at odds with mine. That, too, is subjective. We're both being honest.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Most people who ever lived didn't 'trust Jesus. Hell must be a very crowded place. Please remind about God being loving but still chooses eternal punishment for most of his creations.

You got it bass-ackwards. G-d never chooses Hell, it is US who choose to REJECT His only provision for Salvation.

 

[Meriweather]

God claims are not testable at all.

Here we differ. I believe the Commandments, the Beatitudes, and many teachings are not only testable, but are meant to be tested. Blessed are the peacemakers... is one. Putting God first is another.

 

[Meriweather]

1. I was born and raised Roman Catholic. Broke with it when I was 17 so yes.

I was born and raised Catholic as well, as were my many brothers and sisters. They were totally mystified by the concept of seeking God--a couple because they accepted without question that God is everywhere, therefore so no need to seek.

 

[Slyhunter]

Jesus was speaking of faith and prayer when he said to ask and it shall be given. If you are asking for evidence, then are asking the wrong being, and are also avoiding asking for what it is he recommends/views as worth asking God for.

In seeking God, are you clear about what you are looking to find? I was very little when I began my quest and all I wanted was to run into God exactly as he was. As I've grown older, it seems people I talk with who are searching for God, have a reason or a hope behind that seeking of what God will do for them. As a little kid, I had no such expectation, I simply wanted to meet God. That is why the Commandment of, "Do not put God to the test" resounds strongly with me. There is no test that contain God or works with God. The best I can explain is that God is self-contained and no test encompasses Him. It's like, that when it comes to God, tests may as well be non-existent.

I suspect those who want nothing from God are the ones who are closest to seeking and finding. It's not easy to want nothing.

To answer your question of, "What now?" I recommend you searching within yourself for the answer to this question: Do you want faith? If you sincerely want faith, then your prayer life begins.

Do I want a magical answer to my problems? Yes!
Doesn't make it real.

 

[Slyhunter]

You got it bass-ackwards. G-d never chooses Hell, it is US who choose to REJECT His only provision for Salvation.

Obey, or go to Hell.

 

[rightwinger]

Obey, or go to Hell.

Faith through fear

 

[GMCGeneral]

Obey, or go to Hell.

Obedience is the fruit of submission to G-d Himself. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Faith through fear

The magical threat at the heart of the Abrahamic religions.

If not for this magical threat, none of us would ever have heard of these religions.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Faith through fear

A healthy respect and reverence towards G-d.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A healthy respect and reverence towards G-d.

(An obtuse way of saying, "fear".)

 

[Slyhunter]

Faith through fear

If the only reason you're a follower is because you're afraid, then you're not a true follower.

If the only way you'll do good in this life is because you're afraid of what an Old man in the sky thinks, you still aren't a good person. But if you do good and don't believe you're being judged, or don't care that you are, then you are better than the person who did so through fear.

 

[sparky]

An all loving creator would never stoop to rule by fear......~S~

 

[Slyhunter]

Obedience is the fruit of submission to G-d Himself. Nothing wrong with that.

That is slavery. Do you think slavery is good?

 

[rightwinger]

A healthy respect and reverence towards G-d.

You are so afraid that you won’t even say God

 

[GMCGeneral]

That is slavery. Do you think slavery is good?

Nothing wrong with being a servant of G-d.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are so afraid that you won’t even say God

"They are slaves, and they are glad of their chains." - C Hitchens