Why do the U.S. support Ukraine which has Nazi laws?

[frigidweirdo]

Again and again, users come to this thread and – without reading its first post – allege that Ukrainian laws are normal and that there are such laws in every country (see the post of user frigidweirdo below).

But when I ask these users whether they know, for example, any US laws, which divide US citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights, these users ignore my question.

Please read the first post of this thread before making such “smart” statements.

Problem is you even said yourself in one OP that the Ukrainian constitution says everyone is equal.

Then you say something about: "These laws provide that only Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars and two other small Crimean Turkic peoples have the right to be taught in Ukraine with use of their native languages in all grades of secondary school."

The Law on the Indigenous Peoples of Ukraine. What does it bring to national minorities? – Centre for Analysis of the Radical Right

www.radicalrightanalysis.com

"The law defines indigenous people, fixes which peoples are recognised as indigenous and what benefits they receive in the cultural, educational, informational and political spheres."

Does America have this? Yes.

Native Americans can have their reservations which have different laws. They can have casinos.

"It should be said at the outset that the Ukrainian legislator took the text of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples as a basis. "

Yeah, they took this text from the UN, so not only is the US a nazi state, but the UN is a nazi body too.

Rights of indigenous peoples in Russian law

Article on human rights of indigenous peoples in Russia

www.umu.se

"In Russia, there exist legal norms providing for the protection of indigenous small-numbered peoples’ rights."

Uh oh, even in Russia they have such laws.
So Russia is fighting to de-Nazify the Ukraine while, according to your flawed logic, it is a nazi state itself.

 

[Mushroom]

Thanks for your Analysis, Baghdad Bob.

You mean, like the insane claim that "80% of SS Camp Guards were Ukrainian"?

Around 95% were Germans. This should be obvious in the fact that all camp guards were members of the SS. There were nowhere near enough foreigners to hold more than a few posts in the SS. And those predominantly came from Hungary, Romania, and Slovokia.

In fact, the only sizeable SS group at all from Ukraine was the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division SS (First Galacian). And they only existed for a little over a year, from April 1943 until the unit was effectively destroyed in the Soviet Lvov Offensive. And they served almost exclusively in Slovokia and Yugoslavia, not in Poland were most of the camps were located. And it was a Waffen SS unit, not an SS guard unit. In general, the Foreign Legions of the Waffen SS were little more than foreign cannon fodder to the Germans.

This can especially seen in this unit. As part of their formation, they could only be used against "Bolshevik" forces, and never the other Allied Powers. And secondly, that each unit would have a chaplain. Which only 2 other Waffen SS units had at all (one from Bosnia, the other from France).

That is the problem with that individual, and a great many others. They just spout off something they completely make up, and expect others to accept it without question. Challenge them to prove their claims, and they generally either ignore it or attack you.

 

[Mushroom]

How did Ukrainians, the tiny smattering that had survived Stalin's genocide, get from Ukraine to German occupied territory?

Now granted, I think most of those claims about them being death camp guards and the rest are nothing but coprolite. But your question is actually rather obvious I would think even if it was not a load of crap.

The Germans controlled most of Ukraine from early 1941 until late 1943 - early 1944. However, there was never much satisfaction with the Germans either. They continued the Soviet policies like Collectivization, killed around 6 million Ukrainians themselves, and forced millions into other occupied territories as slave labor. They were as hated by the Ukrainians after the war as the Soviets were.

 

[Ringo]

They were as hated by the Ukrainians after the war as the Soviets were.

How can you be such a stupid idiot? Is it hereditary or have you been taught this?

 

[Ringo]

 

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[Mushroom]

How can you be such a stupid idiot? Is it hereditary or have you been taught this?

So, you have absolutely nothing to respond with. No facts, no history, just your anger with nothing else.

Dismissed. Come back when you actually have something to respond to other than you do not like facts.

 

[Ringo]

So, you have absolutely nothing to respond with. No facts, no history, just your anger with nothing else.

No, I just don't sit down to play chess with a pigeon.

 

[Ringo]

With english subs

 

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[Ringo]

Putin, they say, is not real!!!
Intelligence is considered the brain of the army. Everywhere except Ukraine.
The head of the intelligence department of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry said that it was not Putin who flew to Tehran, but his double

 

[georgephillip]

Does the following sound credible?

Scott Ritter: The Fantasy of Fanaticism

"First, Ukraine is requesting 1,000 artillery pieces and 300 multiple-launch rocket systems, more than the entire active-duty inventory of the U.S. Army and Marine Corps combined.

"Ukraine is also requesting 500 main battle tanks — more than the combined inventories of Germany and the United Kingdom.

"In short, to keep Ukraine competitive on the battlefield, NATO is being asked to strip its own defenses down to literally zero."

 

[Ringo]

Corruption concerns involving Ukraine are revived as the war with Russia drags on

Since the start of the war with Russia, the Biden administration has mostly ignored Ukraine's corruption history. Questions resurfaced about its suitability as a recipient of massive infusions of aid.

www.npr.org

 

[Ringo]

DONETSK, July 28 - RIA Novosti. Ukrainian terrorists used banned anti-personnel mines "Lepestok" during strikes on Donetsk, the headquarters of the territorial defense of the DPR said.
Earlier, the representative office of the National Assembly in the CCS reported three shelling of Donetsk by Ukrainian troops on Thursday night. 4 civilians killed, many wounded. As a result of the shelling, the water supply to the city was stopped.
"The VFU (armed formations of Ukraine - ed.) attacked the Kiev and Kuibyshev districts of Donetsk, many mines "Lepestok" were thrown under the feet of the residents of the city," the headquarters of the Defense Ministry reported.

In 2005, Ukraine ratified the Ottawa Convention, which prohibits the use, accumulation and production of anti-personnel mines. Thus, Kiev violates its international obligations.
The antipersonnel high explosive mine (Antipersonnel High Explosive mine-1) "Lepestok" is designed to damage the legs and is triggered when a person steps on it. It is installed on the ground by remote means of mining. The special insidiousness of the mine for civilians is that because of its unusual shape and small size, people who are not familiar with it may not see danger in it. The mine is almost an exact copy of the American mine BLU-43/B Dragontooth.

 

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[Ringo]

Brainwashing through all channels.

 

[Ringo]

Ruslan Onishchenko, the commander of the Neo-Nazi Tornado battalion, was released from prison by the Zelensky regime, alongside thousands of other criminals. Onishchenko was previously condemned to 10 years imprisonment for rape, torture and murder of civilians. Condemned in fashist Ukraine! That tell you a lot about this thug...