Obviously thinking isn't your strong suitI think he is referring to Leviticus 18:22.
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Obviously thinking isn't your strong suitI think he is referring to Leviticus 18:22.
I certainly can't prove Jesus performed no miracles any more than you can prove he did. Curious that his not all his followers considered him to be God even after seeing him perform miracles. That, as I recall, was the essence of Mark, Jesus kept asking his closest followers who they thought he was.The ones who had firsthand knowledge of the miracles performed by Christ and his resurrection. The ones who had good reason for believing Jesus was God Incarnate. You did say if you had witnessed the miracles firsthand, you would have believed too, right? Because that is literally what I am arguing. The firsthand witnesses who witnessed the miracles performed by Christ realized Jesus was God Incarnate after his resurrection and that’s why they worshipped Jesus as God.
We'll he said, DON"T DO IT.This thread certainly has strayed from the topic of why some Christians find it to be against the words of Jesus to revere any man on earth as "father".
And God forbade homosexual sex, along with adultery and fornication. You aren't dealing with that, except to try and explain it away.No, I made the point that your belief about God the supreme being, whatever it is, determines what you become.
What you strive to be.
If you take the Law literally the image and likeness of God becomes that of a cruel and capricious puerile carnal minded petty tyrant. But if you look and look and keep on looking until you find the deeper implications of the Law the image and likeness of God becomes like that of an ever present dedicated benevolent and loving Father.
Thats why Jesus called God "the Father". Apparently "The Father" remains an unknown God. At least to you and the so called Grand Old Party who sold their souls to a devil for a pocket full of empty promises and brazen lies, some cash, and a false sense of power and authority over those despicable libtard freedom loving unbelievers.
That right there is some good old fashioned decent Christian family values in action.
What blindness!
Jesus was very clear about this. There was nothing ambiguous about it. You aren’t the first person to be shocked by his command."So then tell me, what exactly did Jesus mean by saying "eat my flesh" if not that the subject of kosher Law where "the flesh" of one creature or another is either clean or unclean, is not about food but teaching?"
Tell me how to fulfill the command to eat his flesh without knowing the deeper implications, what he was talking about?
If you saw a teacher opening the eyes of the blind, blind to figurative language, would you think they were God?. Curious that his not all his followers considered him to be God even after seeing him perform miracles.
I disagree. I got paid a lot of money for my thinking. Besides, I wasn’t wrong when I said he was referring to your mental gymnastics in interpreting Leviticus 18:22.Obviously thinking isn't your strong suit
No. If that were the case you’d see me as God.If you saw a teacher opening the eyes of the blind, blind to figurative language, would you think they were God?
I have evidence that he did. You have no evidence that he didn’t. Your argument that unless everyone believed it then it didn’t happen isn’t evidence or even supported by evidence.I certainly can't prove Jesus performed no miracles any more than you can prove he did. Curious that his not all his followers considered him to be God even after seeing him perform miracles. That, as I recall, was the essence of Mark, Jesus kept asking his closest followers who they thought he was.
lol...Funny how your tongue always betrays the secrets of your soul, what you care most about but try to hide.I got paid a lot of money for my thinking.
Actually the topic was about Protestants not believing Catholics are Christians. But yes, it has gone off of those rails.This thread certainly has strayed from the topic of why some Christians find it to be against the words of Jesus to revere any man on earth as "father".
lol...Funny how your tongue always betrays the secrets of your soul, what you care most about but try to hide.
Says the guy who re-writes commands because they offend his sensibilities.When you learn how to read maybe this can be revisited. Until then, purify your own mind and be refined. Or not.
No one can do it for you. Not God, not Jesus, not the angels or saints, not all the eucharists in the world can.
That’s because you don’t understand Mark was intentionally written to explore who Jesus is. Maybe try google to learn more.That, as I recall, was the essence of Mark, Jesus kept asking his closest followers who they thought he was.
No, my criteria would be physical not spiritual.If you saw a teacher opening the eyes of the blind, blind to figurative language, would you think they were God?
We will have to agree to disagree on the value of each others evidence.I have evidence that he did. You have no evidence that he didn’t. Your argument that unless everyone believed it then it didn’t happen isn’t evidence or even supported by evidence.
But yes, as near as I can tell the miracles by themselves were not enough to sway them. It wasn’t until his resurrection that they truly believed. Prior to that there was confusion over who he was.
Yes, we will. But that’s usually how evidence works.We will have to agree to disagree on the value of each others evidence.
So you consider Mark to be allegory but accept the resurrection and miracles to be historically accurate?That’s because you don’t understand Mark was intentionally written to explore who Jesus is. Maybe try google to learn more.
No. I didn’t say that. I said it was intentionally written to explore who Jesus is. It had nothing to do with the miracles performed. It had to do with how the apostles perceived Jesus. Prior to the resurrection they were uncertain. As in who is this guy that is able to do the things he is doing.So you consider Mark to be allegory but accept the resurrection and miracles to be historically accurate?
Thanks for tying to tell me what I believe, but you are wrong. Not only do I believe that God gave commandments I also see clearly the mercy and wisdom of God for doing so for such pitiful creatures lost in abject confusion.You don’t believe God has commanded anything