Why are you against universal health care?

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

That is like saying that eating too much does not cause obesity, but not exercising enough does. Actually, eating too much and not getting exercise both contribute to obesity.

Republicans like to cut taxes for the rich and spend more on the military. Beginning with the Reagan administration both actions have contributed to the rise in the national debt.

We have a spending problem not a revenue problem.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Wrong: insurance is not exactly voluntary either .

It is. I choose to associate with the company and the other people who have policies.

Universal Health care my not be voluntary,

And that makes all the difference.

Damn, you're stupid and short sighted.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Horseshit!

Providing healthcare is widely considered a legitimate and essential government function,...

For people who believe government exists to provide people the means to exercise their rights, sure.

Those better versed in the legitimate function of government understand governments are instituted to secure - that is, protect - those rights from those who would violate them.

See, you have exactly the same right to health care as you do a gun.

 

[M14 Shooter]

We have a spending problem not a revenue problem.

It takes a very special breed of person to see how many tax dollars US government receives each year and thing we have a revenue problem.

 

[Lockback]

Why are you opposed to universal healthcare for all Americans?

Because it's stupid and doesn't work?

 

[Eman623]

I'm for universal Healthcare.

I'll pay for mine, you pay for yours, and everyone else pays for their own. So universal!

 

[dblack]

We have a spending problem not a revenue problem.

But voters have no incentive to reduce spending if they aren't paying the bill. I'm for smaller government, and I think the only way to get there is to actually tax people for the services rendered. If everyone, across the board, saw tax hikes every time Congress decided to hand out free shit, people might vote differently.

 

[Grover]

No one on their right mind wants the federal government to manage health care for the entirety of the US.

Do you think the insurance companies are any better?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Do you think the insurance companies are any better?

My insurance company paid out 3 million dollars and never denied anything for my care over a three-year period. Anthem BC/BS is the best!

 

[SaxonJackson]

Why are you opposed to universal healthcare for all Americans?

Because Socialism is theft, for starters. And because I don't want to wait 6 months to have my broken arm repaired.

 

[Hector12]

We have a spending problem not a revenue problem.

That is an ideological statement, not a factual one.

 

[there4eyeM]

Many services are currently provided collectively. Basic healthcare would be a logical extension.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Republicans like to cut taxes for the rich and spend more on the military. Beginning with the Reagan administration both actions have contributed to the rise in the national debt.

That is an ideological statement, not a factual one.

 

[Woodznutz]

Horseshit!

Providing healthcare is widely considered a legitimate and essential government function, though the extent and method vary; governments ensure access, regulate markets, protect vulnerable populations (like through Medicare/Medicaid in the U.S.), and fund services, balancing public well-being with market-based approaches, reflecting a global view that health is a human right and a public good.

Arguments for Government Role

• Public Health & General Welfare: Governments have a broad mandate to ensure "general welfare" and protect citizens, which extends to public health, seeing healthcare as a necessity, like clean water, rather than a luxury.
• Human Rights: Many view healthcare as a fundamental human right, obligating governments to ensure universal access, even if services are privately delivered.
• Market Failures: Markets alone often fail to provide equitable or affordable care for everyone, necessitating government intervention to expand coverage and control costs, as seen with the ACA.
• Ensuring Access: Governments fund programs (Medicare, Medicaid) and enact laws (EMTALA) to guarantee care for vulnerable groups, the elderly, and those in emergencies.

Roles of Government in Healthcare

• Purchasing & Providing: Funding and delivering care (e.g., VA, military, Medicaid).
• Regulating: Overseeing quality, safety, and markets for pharmaceuticals, insurance, and providers.
• Supporting: Investing in research, workforce development, and public health infrastructure.

What is the role of the citizenry, to "sin so that grace can abound"?

 

[dblack]

Do you think the insurance companies are any better?

Well, I reject your premise that someone else must "manage" my health care. Life not a choice between submitting to government or submitting to corporations.

The modern liberal mentality truly is that of a slave. Can you really imagine no other alternative??

 

[dblack]

Many services are currently provided collectively. Basic healthcare would be a logical extension.

Logical? I suppose it depends on your goal. If the ubiquitous state (totalitarian government) is what you're after, definitely. It's the next "logical extension". Then the government would need to get control of the food supply, housing - and eventually, all employment.

 

[M14 Shooter]

What is the role of the citizenry

In their world?
To toil for the state.

 

[Mac-7]

Why are you opposed to universal healthcare for all Americans?

Because its too expensive

How about government healthcare for catastrophic illinesses?

But everything else paid out of pocket or through private insurance?

 

[dblack]

That is an ideological statement, not a factual one.

Pretty much any interesting statement is. Facts are boring.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

First off, I think it's important to note liberal democrats are retarded, foolish, and are unable to think critically.

Second, they point to countries who have UH to suggest we're in the same boat, when in fact we're clearly not. We're much bigger, and are at a greater threat of immigration.

Third, Lib. democrats are quick to approve of "free" benefits so long as it doesn't cost them anything.

Fourth, they often have very poor work ethics. Speak of critical thought, they don't seem to notice that effort=benefits. Benefits for "free" = laziness and dependence, and boy, lib. democrats sure love dependence, and rewarding laziness.

And finally, for example. I worked for an insurance agency that was govt. We had a monopoly on worker's comp for the State. We nearly dragged the State down in debt as we operated well in the red. The State opened the door to private WC, and that agency hired a great CEO, who when privatized, the agency immediately began operating in the black, bigly, and they still do today.