Why am I a grateful "ex-Conservative"? Here-

[Vox]

All of your posts leaned left-- all the time so why is it you leftist morons always claim to be republicans, independents? No one buys it.. Clowns.

Except, if you were here long enough you'd know that Bucs was as seething right-wing as it possibly got. That's just the truth.

except what actually is "right" vs what a libtard is considering "right" are totally different things.

 

[freedombecki]

All of your posts leaned left-- all the time so why is it you leftist morons always claim to be republicans, independents? No one buys it.. Clowns.

They don't know power usurpation nor what to do about it. It's easy to smear the good guy who stands against the tyranny of the left's push to Communism by showing a united front, and using tools to push stuff like wealth redistribution on people who are unaware or unaccepting that that's precisely what communism or communal living is.

Communism is a fail on so many levels.

 

[freedombecki]

All of your posts leaned left-- all the time so why is it you leftist morons always claim to be republicans, independents? No one buys it.. Clowns.

The testimonial is one of the proven sales tactics that obfuscates reality and sells something people don't know about for a higher price than should be paid. lol

 

[NightFox]

Its been over a year since I decided I was no longer a good fit for the right wing conservative ideology. Everyone on here remembers me from the years past. I was as much of a yellow-rattlesnake flying right winger as anyone could imagine. But I didn't know why. Just because my peers and politicians in this area said I should be. Until I spent some time and really figured my values out. Since separating myself from the right wing, a few things are different that I never thought would be:

- I don't hate taxes. Sure, no one loves paying it. But, with the nonsense no longer clouding my thought, I see it for what it is. I like our roads. Our cops, our firemen, our military...I'm grateful for all of them. I don't have kids in school, but I'm glad we have them. It educates my younger peers, and that is a good thing. Welfare? Sure, it's abused. So is beer and internet. But would I rather those people starve? No. So I pay some taxes that go to welfare, and some gets wasted. That thought just reminds me that I'm lucky enough to not be on welfare, but helping pay for it. That's a good thing. I like buying food and knowing its been inspected and held to standards. I hear about other less fortunate nations and large numbers of people dying from food and pollution..........that could have been prevented with some simple oversight. I do not want to defund or abolish agencies that do these thankless jobs, and I realize my taxes fund that.

- I don't oppose gay marriage or weed; Im neither gay, nor a weed smoker. But, again, without all the people telling me to oppose it just....well, just because I need to........I can clearly see that neither of those harm me or my family. So whose business is it to ban either? Not mine. And not my government's. If you believe in a God, then its between you and your God. But I no longer oppose either. Both are harmless to me and my family. And neither me nor my government has a right to ban something that does no harm. I thought that was a conservative principle at one time.....and still should be.

- I no longer support war unless it is unavoidable. Support the troops, yes, absolutely. But they deserve our best. If we cant afford to take care of them when they return from a war, then we shouldn't be sending them. Again, taxes pay for that. I'm sickened by the war hawk politicians....who have private defense industry lobbyists at dinner with them. Those companies need war to stay in business. Our troops deserve better.



It truly is liberating to just analyze an ideology you adhere to from a distance and deciding for yourself if it is for you. You'll see that you may be doing it just because others tell you that you should.

As I former right winger I approve of most of what you just said. Extremism is pure idiocy!!! Extremist don't live within the first world and surely don't care about most of what goes into being a first world country; military, police, fire, education, etc.

I feel that common sense should be used when thinking about subjects. That's surely missing when you're a extremist.

Common sense independents is what the Country needs in my opinion. People are too competitive and territorial to pick "sides" and then attempt to trick their brain to look at issues with a level head. It's not working, for a lot of people. Message boards is where you can see how prevalent that is.

Well put, I completely agree that Pavlovian Partisan reflex responses and confirmation bias rule the national political discourse, a very unfortunate and very counterproductive state of affairs.

 

[Pete7469]

I'm basically a hard line "rightwinger" like you probably were. I might not agree with your sentiment or what you've posted here, but people who are actually thinking, sometimes change their minds on issues. So enjoy your independence of thought.

 

[Stephanie]

You have no personal responsibility in not being an ass hole to anyone who doesn't agree with your politics.

If that's not a problem to you, good on ya. But - nobody wants to be around a douchebag like that.

Bucs is nothing but cordial to people on here - yet you find him somehow worthy of this childish ridicule. "Noone takes him seriously."

You really had a need to report that? Read it back to yourself and pretend you don't sound like a seventh grade bully boy.

hummm, now who posted this?

And all you ever do is post in people's threads of the opposite persuasion to add little neener neener clown shit. Grow the **** up.

look in mirror and laugh at yourself

I posted it, I'd post it again. Try reading it over, let it simmer.

My point was, you scumbags are being assholes to a guy who was not an asshole to you, simply because of what "side" you imagine he's on. It's sad, and it's immature. I'm sorry you don't like yourself and the way that you behave.

but it's ok you running all over the board being scumbags to others...got it
bucs was never a conservative and that is what I commented on, you don't like...tough shit

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Like Starkey, bucs labors under the fundamental misconception that we take him seriously and are therefore capable of emulating them and embracing the Nanny State

You have no personal responsibility in not being an ass hole to anyone who doesn't agree with your politics.

If that's not a problem to you, good on ya. But - nobody wants to be around a douchebag like that.

Bucs is nothing but cordial to people on here - yet you find him somehow worthy of this childish ridicule. "Noone takes him seriously."

You really had a need to report that? Read it back to yourself and pretend you don't sound like a seventh grade bully boy.

Bucs is a paid shill, he's like David Brock who pretended to be a "Conservative" just so he could make a big production of coming home to the Nanny State. I don't find him credible at all and he's very much like Starkey who is the USMB Gold Standard for poseurs.

 

[Pete7469]

A liberal thinks that a conservative wants to "run" women's bodies.
In reality - they feel that the unborn are just as valuable as the born, and want their lives protected under the law like all other citizens. There's nothing dubious about wanting that.

A conservative thinks that a liberal is "pro killing babies."
In reality - they feel that the woman should have the right to choose, yes or no, and that the situation when it arises is a very deep and complex one. They don't "Want death," they "want choice," and perhaps do not feel the same as conservatives about the unborn being as fully human as the born. There's nothing dubious about wanting that.

It's not good vs. evil.

It's not-evil arguing vs. not evil --- by only seeing the other side's p.o.v. in a negative and non-understanding light, out of both spite and partisan blinding.

Outside of discussing politics, in ANY OTHER FACET OF LIFE whether it be fixing cars, baseball, cooking, decorating, etc etc - - - - - - people are not so arrogant and childish about their beliefs. There is room for disagreement.

I'd like to see a study.

I don't want to start a debate about abortion, but I wanted to point out that Margret Sanger DID want death.

Like the advocates of Birth Control, the eugenists, for instance, are seeking to assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit.

The Mother of Planned Parenthood | TooManyAborted.com

Now I'll grant you that the average moonbat is commited to the "choice" issue, but it seems apparent to me that the elites of liberalism are interested in "managing" the "human resource", and these people are indeed evil.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You have no personal responsibility in not being an ass hole to anyone who doesn't agree with your politics.

If that's not a problem to you, good on ya. But - nobody wants to be around a douchebag like that.

Bucs is nothing but cordial to people on here - yet you find him somehow worthy of this childish ridicule. "Noone takes him seriously."

You really had a need to report that? Read it back to yourself and pretend you don't sound like a seventh grade bully boy.

Bucs is a paid shill, he's like David Brock who pretended to be a "Conservative" just so he could make a big production of coming home to the Nanny State. I don't find him credible at all and he's very much like Starkey who is the USMB Gold Standard for poseurs.

No, you're making that up.

How do I know?

B/c before bucs changed his tune, I used to have some discussions with him back in the day. He was hard headed and far right.

And did you bother to go back and look?

No.

Are you in here claiming he was never conservative?

Yes.

So - without any due diligence, you're here just to comment arrogantly because you JUST CANT IMAGINE someone leaving your "side."

Stop being such a low life.

Do research, you wont look so ******* dumb next time.

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