White identity vs Jewish identity

[DudleySmith]

You’ve got to be kidding me!
There was no one else around at the time!

Well, a few asteroid worshippers and assorted animists, but yes well over two thirds would be Christian or Jewish, mostly Jewish in the case of Medina.

 

[Indeependent]

Visit a Jewish book store and tell me Jews are hiding anything.
There are enough English translations to take up 10 lifetimes.

lol Jews can't even agree on who is Jewish and who isn't. I'll stick with the originalists' views; all I've read of the assorted crank and racist spins tells me they're the most honest and backed up by writings than any of the later Babylonian fictions.
[/QUOTE]
The original is the Torah.
I’m sure you are aware of that.
God counts the 12 Tribes many times and warns against disobeying the rabbis who are the leaders of your generation.
Most Reform and Conservative ignore the verse about only listening to the leaders of their generation.
Deuteronomy is a very important book.

 

[Indeependent]

Visit a Jewish book store and tell me Jews are hiding anything.
There are enough English translations to take up 10 lifetimes.

lol Jews can't even agree on who is Jewish and who isn't. I'll stick with the originalists' views; all I've read of the assorted crank and racist spins tells me they're the most honest and backed up by writings than any of the later Babylonian fictions.
[/QUOTE]
There is at least a 30+% conversion rate away from Judaism for those who choose to make their own decisions.
The end of Deuteronomy discusses this phenomenon and states that God will bring them back at the end of time.

 

[surada]

Well, a few asteroid worshippers and assorted animists, but yes well over two thirds would be Christian or Jewish, mostly Jewish in the case of Medina.

The population of the Arabian peninsula was tiny and the Jews were a minority of immigrants from Jericho.

 

[JoeMoma]

What are you talking about?

Muhammed "marring" a Jewish widow and a Christian widow.

 

[surada]

Muhammed "marring" a Jewish widow and a Christian widow.

Thanks.. Excuse my typo.

 

[JoeMoma]

Thanks.. Excuse my typo.

Mine too.

 

[Quasar44]

fncceo
Yes but where did ashkenazi settle before the Frankish kingdom??
It was in Italy in the time of Rome and before that ??

 

[mga138]

I know one guy who said white identity makes much more sense then Jewish identity because it is human nature the ability to recognize others by their appearance and to recognize foreigners and kin. Humans are visible beings while Jewish identity is conditioned and artificial. I agree about the first part but not the second part because Jewish identity might be learned or conditioned it is similar as to how you learn to speak or your own name and birthdays to know who you are since humans are self conscious beings it is also natural and not artificial.

Jews are not fully white--Ashkenazi Jews are ethnically mixed, about 40 percent White (Western European) and about 60 percent Middle Eastern/Levant. They are Caucasians, and are superficially similar to whites, but can be considered a distinct group.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You’ve got to be kidding me!
There was no one else around at the time!

As I recall, he created the widows.

Jews had lived in Iraq for some 2600 years, but the origin of this mass Muslim movement was in 627. At that time, Mohammed, defending Medina, judged the Jewish tribe to be guilty of aiding the Meccan attackers, and oversaw such acts as the beheading of 900 captives of the Banu Qurayzah tribe, he watched the bodies thrown into a pit.(… in his 1895 biography of Muhammad ("Mahomet and Islam", London, 1895, p. 151), which relied entirely on the original Muslim sources, the scholar Sir William Muir observed:

"The massacre of the Banu Coreiza was a barbarous deed which cannot be justified by any reason of political necessity the indiscriminate slaughter of the whole tribe cannot be recognized otherwise than as an act of monstrous cruelty?")
http://www.andrewbostom.org/loj//content/view/38/27/

a. The extermination of the Jews of Medina represents the iconic moment in Islam, just as the Sermon on the Mount is the iconic moment of Christianity, or the parting of the Red Sea is for the Jews. Edwin Black in his book, “ The Farhud: The Roots of the Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust.”

 

[surada]

As I recall, he created the widows.

Jews had lived in Iraq for some 2600 years, but the origin of this mass Muslim movement was in 627. At that time, Mohammed, defending Medina, judged the Jewish tribe to be guilty of aiding the Meccan attackers, and oversaw such acts as the beheading of 900 captives of the Banu Qurayzah tribe, he watched the bodies thrown into a pit.(… in his 1895 biography of Muhammad ("Mahomet and Islam", London, 1895, p. 151), which relied entirely on the original Muslim sources, the scholar Sir William Muir observed:

"The massacre of the Banu Coreiza was a barbarous deed which cannot be justified by any reason of political necessity the indiscriminate slaughter of the whole tribe cannot be recognized otherwise than as an act of monstrous cruelty?")
http://www.andrewbostom.org/loj//content/view/38/27/

a. The extermination of the Jews of Medina represents the iconic moment in Islam, just as the Sermon on the Mount is the iconic moment of Christianity, or the parting of the Red Sea is for the Jews. Edwin Black in his book, “ The Farhud: The Roots of the Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust.”

Interesting lies and propaganda. You leap from Medina to the Third Reich. Its become fashionable to blame the Arabs for the Holocaust. ALL the Arab States had signed on with the Allies by 1939.

The population of the Arabian Peninsula was tiny even in 1950 AD.. The Jews were NOT a significant population. This was after the burning of the Najran Christians.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Interesting lies and propaganda. You leap from Medina to the Third Reich. Its become fashionable to blame the Arabs for the Holocaust. ALL the Arab States had signed on with the Allies by 1939.

The population of the Arabian Peninsula was tiny even in 1950 AD.. The Jews were NOT a significant population. This was after the burning of the Najran Christians.

Everything you wrote is wrong.
Even you can't be that stupid, so you must be a lying low-life.
Gads, you're scum.


Edwin Black discussed his book, “ The Farhud: The Roots of the Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust.” The lecture was broadcast on C-Span, January 22, 2011.

1. The Farhud, in this case, means the June 1941 Nazi-style pogrom in Baghdad that set the stage for the devastation and expulsion of the Iraqi Jews and ultimately almost a million Jews across the Arab world. But it also means, in the larger sense, the Nazi-Arab alliance, the mutual attempts at genocide of the Jews.

a. When the pogrom did not accomplish the extermination of Iraq’s Jews, the Arabs joined with the Iranians. The name Iran means ‘Aryan,’ and was chosen to support a massive Nazi-dominated infrastructure which was ready to provide oil to the Nazis. "By the early 1930s, Reza Pahlavi's close ties with Nazi Germany began worrying the Allied states.[8] Germany's modern state and economy highly impressed the Shah, and there were hundreds of Germans involved in every aspect of the state, from setting up factories to building roads, railroads and bridges." Germany–Iran relations - Wikipedia

 

[PoliticalChic]

Interesting lies and propaganda. You leap from Medina to the Third Reich. Its become fashionable to blame the Arabs for the Holocaust. ALL the Arab States had signed on with the Allies by 1939.

The population of the Arabian Peninsula was tiny even in 1950 AD.. The Jews were NOT a significant population. This was after the burning of the Najran Christians.

You are and will always be lying scum.


1. Jan. 30, 1933, Adolf Hitler became the newly appointed Chancellor of Germany, Arabs throughout the Mideast petitioned to join the Nazi party.



a. Mein Kampf was rated 4th on the best-seller list among Palestinians in a survey conducted and reported in PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida. Source: Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Fatah), Sept. 2, 1999

b. Books such as Mein Kampf,The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and The International Jew are high on Turkish bestseller lists, and are displayed prominently in the front of bookstores

c. There are even Palestinians whose first name is “Hitler”: Hitler Salah [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Fatah), Sept. 28, 2005], Hitler Abu-Alrab [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Fatah), Jan. 27, 2005], Hitler Mahmud Abu-Libda [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Fatah), Dec.18, 2000.]



2. There were thousands of Muslims who directly joined and aided the Nazi war efforts, forming at least three Waffen SS Divions. “These SS Jihadists assisted the Ustashi Croats in their slaughter of 800,000 Serbs and Jews.” http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Clubs_Handschar_Muslim_Waffen_SS.Islam

a. In Yugoslavia, Muslims and the Catholic Church formed the Ustashe, the most brutal of all Nazi forces: the German Croatian fuehrer, Dr. Ante Pavelic had a basket of 40 pounds of eyes on his desk. The guards in prison camp had a contest to see who could slit more throats in one night: the winner slit 1,350. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem organized these squads.

 

[surada]

Everything you wrote is wrong.
Even you can't be that stupid, so you must be a lying low-life.
Gads, you're scum.


Edwin Black discussed his book, “ The Farhud: The Roots of the Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust.” The lecture was broadcast on C-Span, January 22, 2011.

1. The Farhud, in this case, means the June 1941 Nazi-style pogrom in Baghdad that set the stage for the devastation and expulsion of the Iraqi Jews and ultimately almost a million Jews across the Arab world. But it also means, in the larger sense, the Nazi-Arab alliance, the mutual attempts at genocide of the Jews.

a. When the pogrom did not accomplish the extermination of Iraq’s Jews, the Arabs joined with the Iranians. The name Iran means ‘Aryan,’ and was chosen to support a massive Nazi-dominated infrastructure which was ready to provide oil to the Nazis. "By the early 1930s, Reza Pahlavi's close ties with Nazi Germany began worrying the Allied states.[8] Germany's modern state and economy highly impressed the Shah, and there were hundreds of Germans involved in every aspect of the state, from setting up factories to building roads, railroads and bridges." Germany–Iran relations - Wikipedia

Any lie to justify what European refugees have done in Palestine.

The Germans working in Iran were NOT Nazis, fool.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Interesting lies and propaganda. You leap from Medina to the Third Reich. Its become fashionable to blame the Arabs for the Holocaust. ALL the Arab States had signed on with the Allies by 1939.

The population of the Arabian Peninsula was tiny even in 1950 AD.. The Jews were NOT a significant population. This was after the burning of the Najran Christians.

." ALL the Arab States had signed on with the Allies by 1939."

You are nothing more than lying scum.




The Arab nations were alllies of the Nazis. In order to join the newly formed United Nations, they finally declared war on Germany....







On May 7, 1945, Germany officially surrendered to the Allies, bringing an end to the European conflict in World War II.



Declaration of war on the axis nations was a requirement for entry to the UN.



1 January 1942 || The name "United Nations" is coined

The Charter was signed on 26 June 1945 by the representatives of the 50 countries.

24 October 1945 || The United Nations officially comes into existence





23 February 1945 – Turkey declared war on Germany and Japan.
24 February 1945 – Egypt declared war on Germany and Japan.
26 February 1945 – Syria declared war on Germany and Japan.
1 March 1945 – Saudi Arabia declared war on Japan.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Any lie to justify what European refugees have done in Palestine.

The Germans working in Iran were NOT Nazis, fool.

4. The promise of a Jewish homeland was memorialized in the Balfour Declaration, but supported by a wide variety of backers. From David Lloyd Georges’ “Memoirs,” p. 724-726: “The Germans were, therefore, engaged actively in courting favour with that [Zionist] Movement… urged, early in 1916, the advantages of promising Jewish restoration to Palestine under an arrangement to be made between Zionists and Turkey, backed by a German guarantee.”

a. This was met with riots and massacres in Palestine in 1920, 1921 as Muslims refused to consider any arrangement which gave Jews an equality in the area.

5. Under sharia, Jews could pray at the Wailing Wall—the last remnant of the Temple—only quietly and never sit, even in the heat. Nor were Jews allowed to separate men from women during prayer: the wall was only available for Jewish visitation with permission and under strict guidelines that would not connote independent worship or ownership of the Wall. In 1928, on Yom Kippur, Jews decided to bring benches and chairs to sit while they prayed, resulting in bloody massacres. On August 15 1929, when Jews again marked a holiday by sitting, and also chanted “the Wall is ours,” the Arabs began yet another in a series of bloody massacres. The massacres in several cities culminated in unspeakable atrocities at Hebron.

6. On August 23 and 24, 1929, Hebron became a bloody nightmare. House to house, Arab mobs went, bursting into every room looking for hiding Jews. Religious books and scrolls were burned or torn to shreds. The defenseless Jews were variously beheaded, castrated, their breasts and fingers sliced off, and in some cases their eyes plucked from their sockets. Infant or adult, man or woman—it mattered not. The carnage went on for hours, with the Arab policemen standing down—or joining in. Blood ran in streamlets down the narrow stone staircases outside the buildings. House to house, room by room, the savagery was repeated.

a. Not a single victim was simply killed. Each was mutilated and tortured in accordance with their identities, the specific information provided by local Arabs. The Jewish man who lent money to Arabs was sliced open and the IOUs burned in his body. The Jewish baker’s head was tied to the stove and then baked. A Jewish scholar who had studied Koranic philosophy for years was seized, his cranium cut open, and his brain extracted. Another man was nailed to a door. Some sixty-seven Jews were brutally murdered.

This was the state of relations- long before Hitler ever gained power. Rather than an anomaly, this was one a along line of ongoing massacres.




You are, and will always be, lying scum.

 

[surada]

." ALL the Arab States had signed on with the Allies by 1939."

You are nothing more than lying scum.


The Arab nations were alllies of the Nazis. In order to join the newly formed United Nations, they finally declared war on Germany....







On May 7, 1945, Germany officially surrendered to the Allies, bringing an end to the European conflict in World War II.



Declaration of war on the axis nations was a requirement for entry to the UN.



1 January 1942 || The name "United Nations" is coined

The Charter was signed on 26 June 1945 by the representatives of the 50 countries.

24 October 1945 || The United Nations officially comes into existence





23 February 1945 – Turkey declared war on Germany and Japan.
24 February 1945 – Egypt declared war on Germany and Japan.
26 February 1945 – Syria declared war on Germany and Japan.
1 March 1945 – Saudi Arabia declared war on Japan.

Hitler had some notion of control all the oil production from the Caspian to the Persian Gulf... Called it Plan Orient. In the mid 1930s he sent German envoys all over the Arab world.. They didn't last long before the Arabs expelled them..

Your lies are really shabby.

The Nazis considered the Arabs "mud people" just like the Jews.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler had some notion of control all the oil production from the Caspian to the Persian Gulf... Called it Plan Orient. In the mid 1930s he sent German envoys all over the Arab world.. They didn't last long before the Arabs expelled them..

Your lies are really shabby.

The Nazis considered the Arabs "mud people" just like the Jews.

Let readers of our individual posts judge you.

 

[irosie91]

Any lie to justify what European refugees have done in Palestine.

The Germans working in Iran were NOT Nazis, fool.

for those who do not know----in the limited mind of Surada
"european refugee" is synonymous with JEW who purchased
land in Palestina (aka Judea) during the time of the Ottoman
Empire----aka OTTOMAN CALIPHATE (ask erdogan) In fact
jews from many parts of the world have been engaged in attempts
to buy land in Judea (palestine) for the past, in excess of, 1000
years. The problem is that ACCORDING TO SHARIAH LAW----any
land upon which muslims have raped, pillaged and murdered is
MUSLIM LAND FOREVER -----and cannot "LEGALLY" be owned
by a jew. I have this information from close friends.. One was a
shiite muslim from New Dehli who INSISTED that all of India is
part of the MUGHAL EMPIRE. (CALIPHATE) He was a surgeon with a good memory----he was EDUCATED in India----and could quote the
same islamo-nazi propaganda that surada spits by rote

 

[Juicin]

I know one guy who said white identity makes much more sense then Jewish identity because it is human nature the ability to recognize others by their appearance and to recognize foreigners and kin. Humans are visible beings while Jewish identity is conditioned and artificial. I agree about the first part but not the second part because Jewish identity might be learned or conditioned it is similar as to how you learn to speak or your own name and birthdays to know who you are since humans are self conscious beings it is also natural and not artificial.

Jewish identity is maternal descent

Basically all of Eurasia uses paternal descent.

"pure" blood was never a thing, Europeans weren't even white until very recently. And we warred with literal other species like neaderthals. We are not adapted to be gauging eachother on skin tone

If it were true we'd section off by hair and eyecolor too. Which we don't do.