The Science of Morality

[Thunderbird]

How many Christians have murdered those they disagreed with?

If Christians murder they are not better than atheists no matter what they think of their own moral superiority.

And the fact that people have different ideas of what their gods are just proves that gods are made up by people.

People have different ideas about France and baseball and cats and snow. Does that mean none of these things are real?

 

[Blues Man]

People have different ideas about France and baseball and cats and snow. Does that mean none of these things are real?

I can go to France, I can see and touch snow, I have a cat that walks on my keyboard. No one has to convince me with supernatural mumbo jumbo that these things exist and we can all objectively agree they do. That fact that when you say the word "cat" people all tend to think of a similar image tells you this. You emotions that you associate with any of these things are irrelevant.

Can you do any of these things with a god?

Yes this is a materialist view point but this is a material world and all the things you mentioned are material things or at least concepts about material things. A country after all is nothing but a concept applied to an expanse of real estate.

You can point to things we don't understand and come to the conclusion that because we can't understand them that there must be some supernatural agent that is the cause but that assumes that humans are actually capable of understanding absolutely everything and I do not think that is true.

 

[Thunderbird]

I can go to France, I can see and touch snow, I have a cat that walks on my keyboard. No one has to convince me with supernatural mumbo jumbo that these things exist and we can all objectively agree they do. That fact that when you say the word "cat" people all tend to think of a similar image tells you this. You emotions that you associate with any of these things are irrelevant.

Can you do any of these things with a god?

Yes this is a materialist view point but this is a material world and all the things you mentioned are material things or at least concepts about material things. A country after all is nothing but a concept applied to an expanse of real estate.

You can point to things we don't understand and come to the conclusion that because we can't understand them that there must be some supernatural agent that is the cause but that assumes that humans are actually capable of understanding absolutely everything and I do not think that is true.

Wow you completely missed my point.

 

[Blues Man]

Wow you completely missed my point.

Maybe you should rephrase the question then

 

[ding]

Wow you completely missed my point.

He's on a mission.

 

[ding]

If God was not all powerful would His view ”Love they neighbor” be any less valid?

Does God impose His morality or let us choose it?

It's not virtue if one is forced to be virtuous.

 

[ding]

WTF is wrong with you?
Christianity has been the excuse for millions upon millions of murders, for wars, for torture...

I am Buddhist.
Be good for goodness sake

Then you are a very poor Buddhist.

 

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It's worth repeating... From a Darwinian perspective morality exists because it provides a functional advantage that lack of morality doesn't provide. It's the same reason why religion exists and hasn't died out. It provides a functional advantage over atheism.

That's the science.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Many believers in scientism have concluded that ridding the earth of “undesirables“ was necessary to increase mankind’s overall well being. I gave you a list. Here are two more: Ernst Haeckel and Lothrop Stoddard.

You seem to dislike Judaism rather than Christianity. You’ll find most of the passages about stoning and enslaving are in the Old Testament. Of course for Christians the New Testament is paramount. Christ famously opposed stoning the woman caught in adultery.

And why did you ignore all my questions?

Please tell me precisely which animals are “conscious beings”. And when exactly does a child in her mother’s womb become conscious?

And what exactly is “well being”? Is it the absence of suffering? Is it achievement? Is it hedonism?

The Failure of Utilitarian Ethics in Political Economy: Published Paper - Independent Institute

I. IntroductionA normative argument must have a normative premise whether it is explicitly stated or not. As Gordon Clark pointed out in one of his

www.independent.org

What do you think of Ernst Haeckel's 1874 work Anthropogenie, Taf. XI?