Zone1 Where in The Bible does it state that "Christians" will be "Raptured Up" before The Tribulation?

[hobelim]

If that is True, then The Scriptures have Lied about happens when One Dies, & that is "Sleep", nor do they Know Anything.

According to revelation every fish in the sea died. Fish a known metaphor for a Christian.

Judging by the silly things Christians say they are dead, in a deep sleep, and know nothing. You all have no understanding at all about what you profess to believe. You are all just throwing darts in every direction, taking wild guesses, and missing the target completely.

"There are dead people everywhere. Walking around like regular people. They can't see each other. They only see what they want to see. They don't know that they are dead."

According to scripture the DEAD IN CHRIST will be the first to rise. So lets stop pretending that any of you know what you are talking about. You are fooling no one but yourselves.

THE DEAD KNOW NOTHING.

If any of you schnooks had any faith at all you would have renounced the work of the devil as soon as you were taught to practice idolatry and risen from your graves eons ago and ascended into hebbin where Jesus has been hanging out behind thick clouds for millennia.

Seriously. How is even possible to believe in something you don't understand and can't explain rationally? You all claim to believe in the resurrection but remain in the comfort of your tomb, teeming with unclean creatures - swine that do not ruminate, vultures, maggots, foul and loathsome creepy things that creep - filled with corruption and dead mens bones.

Can't you smell that smell?

But don't get me wrong. Its a beautiful religion as long as you don't mind missing out on life.

Damn.

 

[hobelim]

Rev 13:14 He deceives my own people who dwell on the earth because of the signs he was granted to do in front of the beast; saying to those who dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who had the sword wound and lived.
Rev 13:15 It was given to him to give breath to it, to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause as many as wouldn’t worship the image of the beast to be killed.
Rev 13:16 He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, to be given marks on their right hands, or on their foreheads;
Rev 13:17 and that no one would be able to buy or to sell, unless he has that mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

BTW, the great tribulation that Christians are shitting themselves over has been raging for their whole lives and began when Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity in 325ce with Mithraism, the secret Babylonian MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman government and military, and conjured from the depths of a Roman hell the Antichrist, a false substitute counterfeit Jesus, a mangod whose reality defying supernatural "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally doesn't correspond to any real living being ever in existence.

Instead of saying, "Jesus is God", you might as well have 666 tattooed on your forehead.

You are a truth seeker?

 

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BTW, the great tribulation that Christians are shitting themselves over has been raging for their whole lives and began when Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity in 325ce with Mithraism, the secret Babylonian MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman government and military, and conjured from the depths of a Roman hell the Antichrist, a false substitute counterfeit Jesus, a mangod whose reality defying supernatural "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally doesn't correspond to any real living being ever in existence.

Instead of saying, "Jesus is God", you might as well have 666 tattooed on your forehead.

You are a truth seeker?

Cool story but the worshiping of Jesus as God began about 300 years before that after he rose from the dead.

 

[Quantrill]

You avoided the question. Jesus is not in the OT. Prove he is. Show me mention of his name in the OT . Put up or shut up.

I've already showed you original sin, proved it in the Old Testament, and you don't believe it. You just come up with some bullshit allegory whereby you make it say whatever you want.

Now you say, prove it by the Old Testament.

I tell you what I will do. I will prove you are full of shit and prove the devil in the Old Testament. Which I have proved by the way already.

(Job 38:6-12) "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD....And the LORD said unto Satan...Then Satan answered the LORD....And the LORD said unto Satan....So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD."

(Zechariah 3:1-2) "And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the LORD said unto Satan, the LORD rebuke thee, O Satan...."

(Rev. 12:7-9) "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

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[Quantrill]

Thats what we call heresy. So someone wrote something maybe he lied because Christians persecuted Jews for centuries. They were violent oppressive an intolerant.

I backed up what I said. You provide nothing but 'you'.

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[Hafar1014]

I backed up what I said. You provide nothing but 'you'.

Quantrill

Heresay is not "backed up" its just someone's opinion

 

[Hafar1014]

I've already showed you original sin, proved it in the Old Testament, and you don't believe it. You just come up with some bullshit allegory whereby you make it say whatever you want.

Now you say, prove it by the Old Testament.

I tell you what I will do. I will prove you are full of shit and prove the devil in the Old Testament. Which I have proved by the way already.

(Job 38:6-12) "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD....And the LORD said unto Satan...Then Satan answered the LORD....And the LORD said unto Satan....So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD."

(Zechariah 3:1-2) "And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the LORD said unto Satan, the LORD rebuke thee, O Satan...."

(Rev. 12:7-9) "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Quantrill

Satan is not the devil its a man who accuses with false accusations. Another distorted translation by Christians.
You never proved original sin either. Show me where the words original sin appear

 

[hobelim]

Cool story but the worshiping of Jesus as God began about 300 years before that after he rose from the dead.

As it is written: Two people jerking off in church; two men sleeping in the same deathbed.

One will be taken, the other left behind.

Toodles!

 

[Quantrill]

Heresay is not "backed up" its just someone's opinion

I supported what I said with the Bible. That is not 'heresay'. That is not my opinon. When I do give my opinion, I say, 'my opinion'.

You should do like wise. When you present bullshit, you should say, 'my bullshit'.

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[Quantrill]

Satan is not the devil its a man who accuses with false accusations. Another distorted translation by Christians.
You never proved original sin either. Show me where the words original sin appear

If the translation is distorted, prove it.

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[Hafar1014]

If the translation is distorted, prove it.

Quantrill

Satan means in Hebrew one who bears false witness
In Hebrew, the word "satan" (שָׂטָן) is a common noun meaning "adversary," "accuser," or "opposer," derived from a verb meaning "to obstruct" or "to oppose". It's not inherently a proper name but a role, sometimes referring to human opponents (like King David or the King of Babylon) and,

in later texts (Job, Zechariah), to a specific supernatural entity, "the satan" (ha-satan), who acts as God's prosecutor. This is the distortion

 

[Hafar1014]

No where, because it doesn't.

Scripture also doesn't say, or promote, the idea that we'll go to heaven (or hell) immediately when we die.

Actually the Old Testament uses the term Sheol as heaven there is no hell. Thats where we all go. IT can be seen as a place of darkness but today we belive we return to God

 

[MarcATL]

Actually the Old Testament uses the term Sheol as heaven there is no hell. Thats where we all go. IT can be seen as a place of darkness but today we belive we return to God

How do we return to God? Who returns to God?

 

[ninja007]

Prove it there is no mention of Jesus on the OT none zero nada zip. There is no devil original sin or fall of man. So prove it put up or shut up

The Top 40 Messianic Prophecies about Jesus - Jews for Jesus

The Hebrew Scriptures were the key by which Jesus understood his vocation and life. We've gathered the 40 most striking messianic prophecies about Jesus here.

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[Quantrill]

Satan means in Hebrew one who bears false witness
In Hebrew, the word "satan" (שָׂטָן) is a common noun meaning "adversary," "accuser," or "opposer," derived from a verb meaning "to obstruct" or "to oppose". It's not inherently a proper name but a role, sometimes referring to human opponents (like King David or the King of Babylon) and,

in later texts (Job, Zechariah), to a specific supernatural entity, "the satan" (ha-satan), who acts as God's prosecutor. This is the distortion

(Job) and (Zechariah) are Old Testament.

Where in the Old Testament did 'Satan' ever refer to a man?

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[Quantrill]

Heresay is not "backed up" its just someone's opinion

The Bible is God's opinion and truth. The Word of God. And, that is not heresay.

It's heresay to you because you don't believe the Bible is the Word of God. You don't even believe your Bible, the Pentateuch, is the Word of God. You don't believe the Bible.

Why waste your time? If I didn't believe the Bible was the Word of God, I would throw it in the trash. It would be useless.

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[luiza]

"Christians" will be "Raptured Up"​

Probably an early spelling error .
Ruptured was meant .

Another quaint invented idea to mystify the cowering Sheeplets .

 

[Hafar1014]

The Bible is God's opinion and truth. The Word of God. And, that is not heresay.

It's heresay to you because you don't believe the Bible is the Word of God. You don't even believe your Bible, the Pentateuch, is the Word of God. You don't believe the Bible.

Why waste your time? If I didn't believe the Bible was the Word of God, I would throw it in the trash. It would be useless.

Quantrill

We are all free to believe what we choose to believe.

 

[Hafar1014]

(Job) and (Zechariah) are Old Testament.

Where in the Old Testament did 'Satan' ever refer to a man?

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Satan is a man who gives false testimony

 

[Hafar1014]

The Top 40 Messianic Prophecies about Jesus - Jews for Jesus

The Hebrew Scriptures were the key by which Jesus understood his vocation and life. We've gathered the 40 most striking messianic prophecies about Jesus here.

jewsforjesus.org

There is no mention of Jesus in the bible