Zone1 Where in The Bible does it state that "Christians" will be "Raptured Up" before The Tribulation?

[TruthSeeker112125]

The Crusades were a series of military campaigns launched by the papacy between 1095 and 1291 against Muslim rulers for the recovery and defence of the Holy Land (Palestine), encouraged by promises of spiritual reward. The First Crusade was proclaimed by Pope Urban II at the Council of Clermont on 27 November 1095 in response to a Byzantine appeal for aid against the advancing Seljuk Turks. By this time, the papacy's position as head of the Catholic Church had strengthened, and earlier conflicts with secular rulers and wars on Western Christendom's frontiers had prepared it for the direction of armed force in religious causes. The First Crusade led to the creation of four Crusader states in the Middle East, whose defence required further expeditions from Catholic Europe. The organisation of such large-scale campaigns demanded complex religious, social, and economic institutions, including crusade indulgences, military orders, and the taxation of clerical income. Over time, the crusading movement expanded to include campaigns against pagans, Christian dissidents, and other enemies of the papacy, promoted with similar spiritual rewards and continuing into the 18th century.

The Spanish Inquisition was a powerful institution, established by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella in 1478, to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in Spain by prosecuting heresy, initially targeting conversos (Jewish converts) suspected of secretly practicing Judaism, later expanding to Moriscos (Muslim converts) and others, using controversial methods like secret trials, torture, and public executions (auto-da-fé) until its abolition in 1834, leaving a legacy of fear, forced conversions, and expulsions, though historians debate the scale of its brutality versus propaganda.

Stop dancing around the "Heresy " issue.

What I Call "Heresy" is the "Rabbinic" Written down "Oral Law".

 

[Hafar1014]

I'm Thinking that Modern Day "Talmudic Jews" have zealously been making up for that, especially in Gaza.

Thats self defense

 

[luiza]

Mat 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitudes away, and went into the house. His disciples came to him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the darnel weeds of the field.”
Mat 13:37 He answered them, “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man,
Mat 13:38 the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the children of the Kingdom; and the darnel weeds are the children of the evil one.
Mat 13:39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels.
Mat 13:40 As therefore the darnel weeds are gathered up and burned with fire; so will it be at the end of this age.
Mat 13:41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will gather out of his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and those who do iniquity,
Mat 13:42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.
Mat 13:47 “Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like a dragnet, that was cast into the sea, and gathered some fish of every kind,
Mat 13:48 which, when it was filled, they drew up on the beach. They sat down, and gathered the good into containers, but the bad they threw away.
Mat 13:49 So will it be in the end of the world. The angels will come and separate the wicked from among the righteous,
Mat 13:50 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.”

But absolute zero about "Rupture " or even "Rapture" .

Read the Gospel that Constantine was obliged to ban which includes 114 sayings of Jesus --- all about Manifestation and how everybody can learn it .
Gospel of Thomas .
Nothing about Rupture or Rapture .

 

[luiza]

Thats self defense

Genocide and Infanticide are novel definitions for self defence .

But they love to pretend opposites have identical meanings --- makes scamming so much easier .

 

[Hafar1014]

Genocide and Infanticide are novel definitions for self defence .

But they love to pretend opposites have identical meanings --- makes scamming so much easier .

Thats why Hamas cant use them but they try. Accusations of genocide against Israel are combination of indoctrination and stupidity.
Hamas body armour

 

[luiza]

Thats why Hamas cant use them but they try. Accusations of genocide against Israel are combination of indoctrination and stupidity.
Hamas body armour
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The one thing that History and Life teaches you is that if you wait long enough The Truth is always finally revealed .

The Great Jewish Scam will soon be over .
If any remain in the new state of Judea they can decide whether it was all worth it .

 

[Hafar1014]

The one thing that History and Life teaches you is that if you wait long enough The Truth is always finally revealed .

The Great Jewish Scam will soon be over .
If any remain in the new state of Judea they can decide whether it was all worth it .

There will always be dumb Jeew haters like you who just dont matter. The terror network is badly broken.

 

[luiza]

There will always be dumb Jeew haters like you who just dont matter. The terror network is badly broken.

The Jewish Deep State is all but finished .
Watch how the Chosen ones become the Ridiculed Bums .

 

[Hafar1014]

The Jewish Deep State is all but finished .
Watch how the Chosen ones become the Ridiculed Bums .

After what we have survived youre nothing

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Thats self defense

BULLCRAP.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

But absolute zero about "Rupture " or even "Rapture" .

Read the Gospel that Constantine was obliged to ban which includes 114 sayings of Jesus --- all about Manifestation and how everybody can learn it .
Gospel of Thomas .
Nothing about Rupture or Rapture .

"But absolute zero about "Rupture " or even "Rapture"

" harvest", "they will gather out", "gathered the good", are what "Christianity" calls the "Rapture". Problem is,... It happens at the end of times.

The "Gospel of Thomas" is not a "Spiritually Inspired Book". For Thomas to be true, then the Book of John cannot be True. The Messiah, as a child, did not form pigeons of clay, & bring them to life.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

The Jewish Deep State is all but finished .
Watch how the Chosen ones become the Ridiculed Bums .

The "Biblical Chosen Ones", will be the minority of Believing "Jews", (which Hafar1014 isn't), joined with Believers from The House of Yisrael, & Believing Gentiles/"Foreigners,.... per several Scriptures.

 

[luiza]

"But absolute zero about "Rupture " or even "Rapture"

" harvest", "they will gather out", "gathered the good", are what "Christianity" calls the "Rapture". Problem is,... It happens at the end of times.

The "Gospel of Thomas" is not a "Spiritually Inspired Book". For Thomas to be true, then the Book of John cannot be True. The Messiah, as a child, did not form pigeons of clay, & bring them to life.

You have big problems .
As you will find out .

Johnny was a nutty hermit living alone on Patmos .

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

You have big problems .
As you will find out .

Johnny was a nutty hermit living alone on Patmos .

And You need to do some Serious Studying of The Scriptures.

 

[luiza]

And You need to do some Serious Studying of The Scriptures.

Am happy to give lessons and advice .

 

[hobelim]

I Don't accept that Hoebelim, and due to at least ten Scriptures that speak of the dead,..... I truly Believe that my Loved Ones, & Friends that have "Passed on", are indeed "Sleeping" in the grave., awaiting their "Resurrection".

Your loved ones & friends who have "passed on" are not waiting for anything. When Jesus said to the good thief on the cross, "today you will be with me in paradise" he said TODAY, not when you wake up at the end of time itself. Time ended for them on the day they died.

The dead who are sleeping in the grave are the dead that died defying the law of God.

I will tell you something. Try to hear.

In the very day some bastard told you to get down on your knees, admit you were a sinning piece of shit, beg God for forgiveness for being human, and accept the Antichrist as your god and savior your died and descended into the netherworld, Sheol, the realm of the dead.

If you can't grasp how worshipping Jesus as if he was God is idolatry then it is all of you "believers" who need to rise from the dead before time runs out. What are you waiting for?

Where is your "faith"?

 

[hobelim]

So No!... These Prophecies are not speaking of everyday troubles.

So all of the pogroms, persecutions, wars, inquisitions, witch trials, crusades, genocides in Europe Russia, and Asia that began immediately after Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity with Mithraism in 325ce and unleashed the Antichrist on the world whose ruthless brazen atrocities continue to this day on every continent are every day troubles?

The bloody history of the Roman church and all its bastard denominations dedicated to a trinity and false Jesus is not unprecedented? "for there will be great oppression, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be." No wonder the Jewish authors of scripture compared your oblivious state of mind to death, a deep sleep.

Sure, every day troubles during the terrifying reign of the Antichrist (a false counterfeit Jesus and mangod that never existed) except if you bear the mark of the beast. Rome. Numbskull

Those who refuse the mark, maintain allegiance to Jesus and keep Gods commands face persecution daily worldwide. WAKE UP. Geez. "No one can buy or sell without the mark"

So what do believers do TO THIS DAY when someone refuses to worship Jesus as God?

Let them enjoy the "every day troubles" of being execrated? Condemned as anathema?

Thinking of the brotherly love demonstrated by believers brings a tear to my eyes. lol Damn.

 

[DennisPTate]

So all of the pogroms, persecutions, wars, inquisitions, witch trials, crusades, genocides in Europe Russia, and Asia that began immediately after Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity with Mithraism in 325ce and unleashed the Antichrist on the world whose ruthless brazen atrocities continue to this day on every continent are every day troubles?

The bloody history of the Roman church and all its bastard denominations dedicated to a trinity and false Jesus is not unprecedented? "for there will be great oppression, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be." No wonder the Jewish authors of scripture compared your oblivious state of mind to death, a deep sleep.

Sure, every day troubles during the terrifying reign of the Antichrist (a false counterfeit Jesus and mangod that never existed) except if you bear the mark of the beast. Rome. Numbskull

Those who refuse the mark, maintain allegiance to Jesus and keep Gods commands face persecution daily worldwide. WAKE UP. Geez. "No one can buy or sell without the mark"

So what do believers do TO THIS DAY when someone refuses to worship Jesus as God?

Let them enjoy the "every day troubles" of being execrated? Condemned as anathema?

Thinking of the brotherly love demonstrated by believers brings a tear to my eyes. lol Damn.

One of the only logical explanations for "The Inquisition" being allowed would be that perhaps Satan, [whoever "Satan" really is], is working for Jesus much as Satan in the Book of Job would not go past what he was allowed to do to Job?

Near death experiencer Dr. Richard Eby did see an explanation for "The Rapture", or something very much like The Rapture, but it seems as if this "Rapture' took place in what could be thought of as within the context of Applied Multiverse Theory that could well fit with the idea that Ezekiel chapter thirty seven is not limited to being a one time event, but could perhaps happen as often as Moshiach ben David decided that He wants to set in motion new time lines, from any point in space - time, since the creation of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden?

 

[hobelim]

One of the only logical explanations for "The Inquisition" being allowed would be that perhaps Satan, [whoever "Satan" really is], is working for Jesus much as Satan in the Book of Job would not go past what he was allowed to do to Job?

Good point!


Jesus did say to his disciples that, "Satan has been given permission to sift you all like wheat and test your faith" Luke 22:31-32

 

[DennisPTate]

Good point!


Jesus did say to his disciples that, "Satan has been given permission to sift you all like wheat and test your faith" Luke 22:31-32

That is an exceptionally good comment on the Christian scriptures!

But YOU do not identify as a "Christian" do you?


On a somewhat similar general topic I feel that the lectures by former ATheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava fit with Matthew chapter five, six and seven and his 2001 seven minute brush with death corresponds with Matthew chapter four on so many levels that it is spooky!




Quite frankly Rabbi Alon Anava can identify with the idea of being "CRUSHED" as is referred to in Isaiah chapter fifty three on a level that no living Rabbi could explain in two millennia, with the possible exception of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov.