Zone1 Where in The Bible does it state that "Christians" will be "Raptured Up" before The Tribulation?

[Hafar1014]

How do we return to God? Who returns to God?

Its a figure of speech

 

[Quantrill]

We are all free to believe what we choose to believe.

Certainly are.

Quantrill

 

[Hafar1014]

Certainly are.

Quantrill

And for us thats true. You do know I like to mess with you but I d respect your devotion

 

[Quantrill]

Satan is a man who gives false testimony

No, Satan is an angel of the Cherubim class. He is the highest angel and still is in rank to all the angels. That includes the angels of God who did not rebel.

Quantrill

 

[Hafar1014]

No, Satan is an angel of the Cherubim class. He is the highest angel and still is in rank to all the angels. That includes the angels of God who did not rebel.

Quantrill

Its better to rule in Hell then serve in Heaven

 

[Hafar1014]

Its mistranslation it says any who dont believe in Jesus will get a rupture. A spiritual kick in the balls

 

[Quantrill]

Its better to rule in Hell then serve in Heaven

What makes you think anyone is ruling in Hell? God is Ruler over Hell also. All in the Lake of Fire are serving God also. Just not in the way they want.

Quantrill

 

[Hafar1014]

The Romans killed him and violent genocidal Christians the religion of peace persecuted Jews for 2000 years

Christians persecuted Jews fir the next 2000 years in the name of a god of peace and love. You remember the Spanish Inquisition. The Merchant Of Venice.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Prove it there is no mention of Jesus on the OT none zero nada zip. There is no devil original sin or fall of man. So prove it put up or shut up

"There is no devil original sin or fall of man."

You do the same Hafar, .... Prove that Via The Scriptures.

And Sir, since this is My Topic, Quantril is Free to Speak, whereas You are becoming a "Real Pain".

 

[Hafar1014]

"There is no devil original sin or fall of man."

You do the same Hafar, .... Prove that Via The Scriptures.

And Sir, since this is My Topic, Quantril is Free to Speak, whereas You are becoming a "Real Pain".

I dont have to prove what isnt written in the first place. Thats because Im right and you cant prove otherwise.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Thats what we call heresy. So someone wrote something maybe he lied because Christians persecuted Jews for centuries. They were violent oppressive an intolerant.

What I Call "Heresy" is the "Rabbinic" Written down "Oral Law".

 

[Hafar1014]

What I Call "Heresy" is the "Rabbinic" Written down "Oral Law".

Early Christians were violent and intolerant. Thats just history

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

According to revelation every fish in the sea died. Fish a known metaphor for a Christian.

Judging by the silly things Christians say they are dead, in a deep sleep, and know nothing. You all have no understanding at all about what you profess to believe. You are all just throwing darts in every direction, taking wild guesses, and missing the target completely.

"There are dead people everywhere. Walking around like regular people. They can't see each other. They only see what they want to see. They don't know that they are dead."

According to scripture the DEAD IN CHRIST will be the first to rise. So lets stop pretending that any of you know what you are talking about. You are fooling no one but yourselves.

THE DEAD KNOW NOTHING.

If any of you schnooks had any faith at all you would have renounced the work of the devil as soon as you were taught to practice idolatry and risen from your graves eons ago and ascended into hebbin where Jesus has been hanging out behind thick clouds for millennia.

Seriously. How is even possible to believe in something you don't understand and can't explain rationally? You all claim to believe in the resurrection but remain in the comfort of your tomb, teeming with unclean creatures - swine that do not ruminate, vultures, maggots, foul and loathsome creepy things that creep - filled with corruption and dead mens bones.

Can't you smell that smell?

But don't get me wrong. Its a beautiful religion as long as you don't mind missing out on life.

Damn.

"According to revelation every fish in the sea died. Fish a known metaphor for a Christian."

I Don't accept that Hoebelim, and due to at least ten Scriptures that speak of the dead,..... I truly Believe that my Loved Ones, & Friends that have "Passed on", are indeed "Sleeping" in the grave., awaiting their "Resurrection".

Basing One's Faith on Metaphors, will quickly lead to being delusional.

And the rest of your post is, ... Well,... Your misguided opinion.

With all of this veering wi8dely away from the original Topic.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

BTW, the great tribulation that Christians are shitting themselves over has been raging for their whole lives and began when Rome assimilated and perverted Christianity in 325ce with Mithraism, the secret Babylonian MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman government and military, and conjured from the depths of a Roman hell the Antichrist, a false substitute counterfeit Jesus, a mangod whose reality defying supernatural "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally doesn't correspond to any real living being ever in existence.

Instead of saying, "Jesus is God", you might as well have 666 tattooed on your forehead.

You are a truth seeker?

Nope.

That defies The Scriptures. They absolutely speak of a time that has "no equal, & that it is unprecedented".:

Dan 12:1 “At that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who stands for the children of your people; and there will be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time. At that time your people will be delivered, everyone who is found written in the book.

Jer 30:4 These are the words that Yahweh spoke concerning Israel and concerning Judah.
Jer 30:5 For Yahweh says: “We have heard a voice of trembling; a voice of fear, and not of peace.
Jer 30:6 Ask now, and see whether a man travails with child. Why do I see every man with his hands on his waist, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned pale?
Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it. It is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he will be saved out of it.

Mat 24:21 for then there will be great oppression, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be.
Mat 24:22 Unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved. But for the sake of the chosen ones, those days will be shortened.

All three of these Prophecies are speaking of the same time, since all three have never been experienced before, nor ever will be again.

So No!... These Prophecies are not speaking of everyday troubles.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

"Christians" will be "Raptured Up"​

Probably an early spelling error .
Ruptured was meant .

Another quaint invented idea to mystify the cowering Sheeplets .

Mat 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitudes away, and went into the house. His disciples came to him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the darnel weeds of the field.”
Mat 13:37 He answered them, “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man,
Mat 13:38 the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the children of the Kingdom; and the darnel weeds are the children of the evil one.
Mat 13:39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels.
Mat 13:40 As therefore the darnel weeds are gathered up and burned with fire; so will it be at the end of this age.
Mat 13:41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will gather out of his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and those who do iniquity,
Mat 13:42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.
Mat 13:47 “Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like a dragnet, that was cast into the sea, and gathered some fish of every kind,
Mat 13:48 which, when it was filled, they drew up on the beach. They sat down, and gathered the good into containers, but the bad they threw away.
Mat 13:49 So will it be in the end of the world. The angels will come and separate the wicked from among the righteous,
Mat 13:50 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.”

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Early Christians were violent and intolerant. Thats just history

You can't even make a Truthful straight forward statement about anything.

 

[Hafar1014]

You can't even make a Truthful straight forward statement about anything.

The Crusades were a series of military campaigns launched by the papacy between 1095 and 1291 against Muslim rulers for the recovery and defence of the Holy Land (Palestine), encouraged by promises of spiritual reward. The First Crusade was proclaimed by Pope Urban II at the Council of Clermont on 27 November 1095 in response to a Byzantine appeal for aid against the advancing Seljuk Turks. By this time, the papacy's position as head of the Catholic Church had strengthened, and earlier conflicts with secular rulers and wars on Western Christendom's frontiers had prepared it for the direction of armed force in religious causes. The First Crusade led to the creation of four Crusader states in the Middle East, whose defence required further expeditions from Catholic Europe. The organisation of such large-scale campaigns demanded complex religious, social, and economic institutions, including crusade indulgences, military orders, and the taxation of clerical income. Over time, the crusading movement expanded to include campaigns against pagans, Christian dissidents, and other enemies of the papacy, promoted with similar spiritual rewards and continuing into the 18th century.

The Spanish Inquisition was a powerful institution, established by Catholic Monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella in 1478, to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in Spain by prosecuting heresy, initially targeting conversos (Jewish converts) suspected of secretly practicing Judaism, later expanding to Moriscos (Muslim converts) and others, using controversial methods like secret trials, torture, and public executions (auto-da-fé) until its abolition in 1834, leaving a legacy of fear, forced conversions, and expulsions, though historians debate the scale of its brutality versus propaganda.

 

[Hafar1014]

Actually the Old Testament uses the term Sheol as heaven there is no hell. Thats where we all go. IT can be seen as a place of darkness but today we belive we return to God

Sheol (Hebrew: שְׁאוֹל) is the Hebrew Bible's concept of the underworld or realm of the dead,

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Its mistranslation it says any who dont believe in Jesus will get a rupture. A spiritual kick in the balls

I'm sensing that You are looking for the "First Appearrance" of The Messiah, since the "Jews" didn't realize that HE did indeed appear to them, as recorded in the New Testament.

Which means that You will embrace the appearance of a "Warrior King" who will lead the "Jews" back to their former glory, as well possibly oversee the building of the Third Temple.

By the way,..... There quite a few Prophecies in The Tanach, that speak of this, and, He who You look for is called the "Little Horn"/"Assyrian".

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Early Christians were violent and intolerant. Thats just history

I'm Thinking that Modern Day "Talmudic Jews" have zealously been making up for that, especially in Gaza.