Zone1 Where in The Bible does it state that "Christians" will be "Raptured Up" before The Tribulation?

"You have missed greatly the purpose of Jesus Christ."

No Cougar, You, & the majority, have missed His purpose, & His Teachings.

Mat 5:17 “Don’t think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn’t come to destroy, but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 For most certainly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished.
Mat 5:19 Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whoever shall do and teach them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Mat 19:16 Behold, one came to him and said, “Good teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?”
Mat 19:17 He said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
Mat 19:18 He said to him, “Which ones?” Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder.’ ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ ‘You shall not steal.’ ‘You shall not offer false testimony.’
Mat 19:19 ‘Honor your father and your mother.’ And, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’”
Mat 19:20 The young man said to him, “All these things I have observed from my youth. What do I still lack?”
Mat 19:21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Mat 19:22 But when the young man heard the saying, he went away sad, for he was one who had great possessions.

Mat 22:34 But the Pharisees, when they heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, gathered themselves together.
Mat 22:35 One of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, testing him.
Mat 22:36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?”
Mat 22:37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 A second likewise is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
Mat 22:40 The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments.”
Exo 20:1 God spoke all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2 “I am Yahweh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 “You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I, Yahweh your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and on the fourth generation of those who hate me,
Exo 20:6 and showing loving kindness to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Exo 20:7 “You shall not take the name of Yahweh your God in vain, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 You shall labor six days, and do all your work,
Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to Yahweh your God. You shall not do any work in it, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your livestock, nor your stranger who is within your gates;
Exo 20:11 for in six days Yahweh made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore Yahweh blessed the Sabbath day, and made it holy.

Exo 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which Yahweh your God gives you.
Exo 20:13 “You shall not murder.
Exo 20:14 “You shall not commit adultery.
Exo 20:15 “You shall not steal.
Exo 20:16 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
Exo 20:17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

Joh 14:15 If you love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:21 One who has my commandments, and keeps them, that person is one who loves me. One who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him, and will reveal myself to him.”
Jer 31:31 “Behold, the days come,” says Yahweh, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which covenant of mine they broke, although I was a husband to them,” says Yahweh.
Jer 31:33 “But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” says Yahweh: I will put my law in their inward parts, and I will write it in their heart. I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 They will no longer each teach his neighbor, and every man teach his brother, saying, ‘Know Yahweh;’ for they will all know me, from their least to their greatest,” says Yahweh: “for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”
Rev_12:17 The dragon grew angry with the woman, and went away to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep God’s commandments and hold Jesus’ testimony.

Rev_14:12 Here is the perseverance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”

Rev_22:14 Blessed are those who do his commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in by the gates into the city.
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"Even he changed the temple rites as well."

Not So, otherwise the Prophets Yeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, & more are Liars.
You can't see the big picture. He obviously changed some things. Christians don't do the some 625 commandments they were doing back then. And, baptism took the place of circumcision. Big change!!! Making changes doesn't destroy the law of Moses. Sorry, but you lose this one.
 
You can't see the big picture. He obviously changed some things. Christians don't do the some 625 commandments they were doing back then. And, baptism took the place of circumcision. Big change!!! Making changes doesn't destroy the law of Moses. Sorry, but you lose this one.
Cougar, It is You that "Can't see", or that You refuse to see.

The "Covenant" is not the
"625 commandments". And, if You had taken the time to study them, You would know that they can not be applied to every Man, Woman, & Child due to Biological, & Physical restraints.

And You would Know that approximately 1/4 of them are precisely only for the Levites to carry out.

Do You Deny Paul's restating of what is written in Yeremiah 31:, or do You just pick & choose sCriptures that satisfy Your Desires?


Heb 8:6 But now he has obtained a more excellent ministry, by so much as he is also the mediator of a better covenant, which on better promises has been given as law.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he said, “Behold, the days come”, says the Lord, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
Heb 8:9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers, in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; for they didn’t continue in my covenant, and I disregarded them,” says the Lord.
Heb 8:10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel. After those days,” says the Lord; “I will put my laws into their mind, I will also write them on their heart. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
Heb 8:11 They will not teach every man his fellow citizen,and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all will know me, from their least to their greatest.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness. I will remember their sins and lawless deeds no more.”
Heb 8:13 In that he says, “A new covenant”, he has made the first old. But that which is becoming old and grows aged is near to vanishing away.

Jer 31:31 “Behold, the days come,” says Yahweh, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which covenant of mine they broke, although I was a husband to them,” says Yahweh.
Jer 31:33 “But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” says Yahweh: I will put my law in their inward parts, and I will write it in their heart. I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 >>>They will no longer each teach his neighbor, and every man teach his brother, saying, ‘Know Yahweh;’ for they will all know me, from their least to their greatest,”<<< says Yahweh: “for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

The Enactment of that "New Covenant", in case you haven't paid attention to the World, ... Has not occurred yet for many reasons, BUT, an Outstanding indicator is that "Know the Lord" is still to this very moment, ongoing around the World.

Secondly, The "Time of Yacob's Trouble"/ "The Tribulation", which per many Scriptures, is to precede the Enactment of "The New Covenant",.... Has not yet happened, but it is very near.

Third,... The "House of Yisrael", & "The House of Yudah" (Judah) have not yet re-united.


"Christians"...... Are You speaking broadly of the at least 30,000 widely different & heretical, Sects of "Christianity", or just a few?

And how can You Proclaim "Lord!", when You honor the Doctrines of Pagan Catholicism, and not Honor what The Messiah taught, and that Paul upheld?


Eph 2:11 Therefore remember that once you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “uncircumcision” by that which is called “circumcision”, (in the flesh, made by hands);
Eph 2:12 that you were at that time separate from Christ, alienated from >>>the commonwealth of Israel<<<, and strangers from the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off are made near in the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who made both one, and broke down the middle wall of partition,
Eph 2:15 having abolished in his flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace;
Eph 2:16 and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, having killed the hostility thereby.

Eph 3:6 that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of his promise in Christ Jesus through the Good News,

Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as you also were called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in us all.


"baptism took the place of circumcision"

No iy did not.

"Sorry, but you lose this one." :26:

In Your Thinking only.
 
Cougar, It is You that "Can't see", or that You refuse to see.

The "Covenant" is not the
"625 commandments". And, if You had taken the time to study them, You would know that they can not be applied to every Man, Woman, & Child due to Biological, & Physical restraints.

And You would Know that approximately 1/4 of them are precisely only for the Levites to carry out.

Do You Deny Paul's restating of what is written in Yeremiah 31:, or do You just pick & choose sCriptures that satisfy Your Desires?


Heb 8:6 But now he has obtained a more excellent ministry, by so much as he is also the mediator of a better covenant, which on better promises has been given as law.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he said, “Behold, the days come”, says the Lord, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
Heb 8:9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers, in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; for they didn’t continue in my covenant, and I disregarded them,” says the Lord.
Heb 8:10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel. After those days,” says the Lord; “I will put my laws into their mind, I will also write them on their heart. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
Heb 8:11 They will not teach every man his fellow citizen,and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all will know me, from their least to their greatest.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness. I will remember their sins and lawless deeds no more.”
Heb 8:13 In that he says, “A new covenant”, he has made the first old. But that which is becoming old and grows aged is near to vanishing away.

Jer 31:31 “Behold, the days come,” says Yahweh, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which covenant of mine they broke, although I was a husband to them,” says Yahweh.
Jer 31:33 “But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” says Yahweh: I will put my law in their inward parts, and I will write it in their heart. I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 >>>They will no longer each teach his neighbor, and every man teach his brother, saying, ‘Know Yahweh;’ for they will all know me, from their least to their greatest,”<<< says Yahweh: “for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

The Enactment of that "New Covenant", in case you haven't paid attention to the World, ... Has not occurred yet for many reasons, BUT, an Outstanding indicator is that "Know the Lord" is still to this very moment, ongoing around the World.


Secondly, The "Time of Yacob's Trouble"/ "The Tribulation", which per many Scriptures, is to precede the Enactment of "The New Covenant",.... Has not yet happened, but it is very near.

Third,... The "House of Yisrael", & "The House of Yudah" (Judah) have not yet re-united.


"Christians"...... Are You speaking broadly of the at least 30,000 widely different & heretical, Sects of "Christianity", or just a few?

And how can You Proclaim "Lord!", when You honor the Doctrines of Pagan Catholicism, and not Honor what The Messiah taught, and that Paul upheld?


Eph 2:11 Therefore remember that once you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “uncircumcision” by that which is called “circumcision”, (in the flesh, made by hands);
Eph 2:12 that you were at that time separate from Christ, alienated from >>>the commonwealth of Israel<<<, and strangers from the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off are made near in the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who made both one, and broke down the middle wall of partition,
Eph 2:15 having abolished in his flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace;
Eph 2:16 and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, having killed the hostility thereby.

Eph 3:6 that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of his promise in Christ Jesus through the Good News,

Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as you also were called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in us all.


"baptism took the place of circumcision"

No iy did not.

"Sorry, but you lose this one." :26:

In Your Thinking only.
First, I do not honor Catholicism. I’m not Catholic. Where did you get that idea? I not only believe in a new covenant, but the new and everlasting covenant of marriage for all time and eternity. I actually am a grateful member of the only Church that actually believes that what Paul wrote that would happen in the last days.

Baptism did replace circumcision in that the only way to be with Jesus in Heaven is through baptism of water and the Holy Ghost. That’s the ordinance Jesus Christ established to become a member of His body or Church. But it has to be done correctly, with one who is old enough and mentally capable of actually sinning. And the baptizer must be properly authorized with the Priesthood after the order of the Son of God. While those of the lesser priesthood of the levites or Aaronic Priesthood can baptize by water, on those with the higher or Melchizedek (the order of the Son of God) may baptize or cause an indigo receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Are you authorized? Are any of the members of the 30,000 Christian sects authorized by the laying on of hands by one with authority given by one with authority given by one with authority back to to Peter, James and John back to Jesus Christ? And where is your genealogy of priesthood to claim this? Instead, the 30,000 sects claim they “feel” like they have been called to do these and other sacred ordinances of the priesthood after the order of the Son of God?

It’s pretty simple who has this authority to work and speak with power and authority. That priesthood was either handed down continuously from Christ and the Apostles of old to the present day Catholic Church. Or, their was in deed a complete apostasy as Paul and others prophesied for centuries and as the Bible says their had to be a restoration of the restitution of all things pertaining to Jesus Christ and His kingdom on earth as it is in Heaven. A perpetuation or a restoration. The 30,000 sects are splinter groups from the Catholic Church. If the Catholic Church committed the apostasy then the sects that came from them are also in apostasy and have no power or authority of Jesus Christ. There’s one true Church of Jesus Christ then left standing. The one the Father and Son through the Holy Ghost and the ancient Apostles and prophets restored through a prophet called in these the latter days. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Amos 3:7, “Surely the Lord will reveal his secrets to only prophets.” The prophet of this great restoration was Joseph Smith who received the New and Everlasting Covenant of Marriage and all other lost doctrines, covenants, ordinances, power and authority of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost. I testify this to be true by the gift of the Holy Ghost with power and authority of the Savior of mankind even Jesus Christ, amen…
 
"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

And there it is,..... "In a Nutshell", You belong to a Cult.
 
"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

And there it is,..... "In a Nutshell", You belong to a Cult.
No, you belong to a cult because you don't follow the Bible. You are an offshoot of the Catholic Cult. The one that changed the Godhead of three individual personages into one personage shapeshifting into three gods with the Trinity. 1John 5:7 was added to John's letter centuries later. The concept was formulated in 170AD. You know this and still follow it. That's a cult in a nutshell.
 
No, you belong to a cult because you don't follow the Bible. You are an offshoot of the Catholic Cult. The one that changed the Godhead of three individual personages into one personage shapeshifting into three gods with the Trinity. 1John 5:7 was added to John's letter centuries later. The concept was formulated in 170AD. You know this and still follow it. That's a cult in a nutshell.
Cougar,

This Topic is about "

Where in The Bible does it state that "Christians" will be "Raptured Up" before The Tribulation?"​


It is not about Your Zealous promotion of One of the thousands of "Sects of Christianity", as in holding it up as The True Faith of The Messiah & His Way.
Not One of Man's Religions, that have evolved from Catholicism, is Named in any Scripture, be it "Canonized", or "Un-Canonized".
With strong consideration towards the rapidly escalating Events in the World,..... A True Seeker, of The Resurrected & Soon Returning Messiah,.... Absolutely must Be Totally Willing to Give up what they Want/ Believe in, & Fully Accept, to the very Letter, what The Messiah, His Prophets, & His Patriarchs Taught, Nothing Less, and Nothi9ng More to be added to it.
Anyone, that proclaims "Lord!", while upholding the Blasphemous Teachings of Man, and refusing to zealously Honor what Yahshauh HaMashiach Taught,..... Will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
You can continue to rant, & rage all You want, in your efforts to overrun this Topic, but hear me,........ When You Lie, & make Your False Accusations about me,.... When it is boiled down to it's finest essence,........ You are not attempting to Serve The Messiah,....... You are Serving the God of this World:

2Co_4:4 in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.

Now,.. If You have any shred of "Brotherly Love", still within You,.... Then either truthfully contribute herein about The Topic , or,.... Start a New Topic about how Your Belief system is The True, & Only One, & then message me about Your Posting it, & then there, I'll Zealously Debate You, about "Your Belief System.

What Say You Cougar?
 
Cougar,

This Topic is about "

Where in The Bible does it state that "Christians" will be "Raptured Up" before The Tribulation?"​


It is not about Your Zealous promotion of One of the thousands of "Sects of Christianity", as in holding it up as The True Faith of The Messiah & His Way.
Not One of Man's Religions, that have evolved from Catholicism, is Named in any Scripture, be it "Canonized", or "Un-Canonized".
With strong consideration towards the rapidly escalating Events in the World,..... A True Seeker, of The Resurrected & Soon Returning Messiah,.... Absolutely must Be Totally Willing to Give up what they Want/ Believe in, & Fully Accept, to the very Letter, what The Messiah, His Prophets, & His Patriarchs Taught, Nothing Less, and Nothi9ng More to be added to it.
Anyone, that proclaims "Lord!", while upholding the Blasphemous Teachings of Man, and refusing to zealously Honor what Yahshauh HaMashiach Taught,..... Will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
You can continue to rant, & rage all You want, in your efforts to overrun this Topic, but hear me,........ When You Lie, & make Your False Accusations about me,.... When it is boiled down to it's finest essence,........ You are not attempting to Serve The Messiah,....... You are Serving the God of this World:

2Co_4:4 in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.

Now,.. If You have any shred of "Brotherly Love", still within You,.... Then either truthfully contribute herein about The Topic , or,.... Start a New Topic about how Your Belief system is The True, & Only One, & then message me about Your Posting it, & then there, I'll Zealously Debate You, about "Your Belief System.

What Say You Cougar?
If you tell me I'm in a cult, you've opened the door for other conversations. You should stick to the conversation topic yourself before pointing fingers.
 
If you tell me I'm in a cult, you've opened the door for other conversations. You should stick to the conversation topic yourself before pointing fingers.
If Your "Belief System" is not 100% of that of The Messiah's Teachings,... Then You uphold a Cult.

And as far as "Pointing Fingers",......... Lady go back to when You inserted Yourself in to this topic, & study Your Statements, & then take a Hard Look in the Mirror.
 
If Your "Belief System" is not 100% of that of The Messiah's Teachings,... Then You uphold a Cult.

And as far as "Pointing Fingers",......... Lady go back to when You inserted Yourself in to this topic, & study Your Statements, & then take a Hard Look in the Mirror.
Everything we teach is of Jesus Christ and Jesus the Christ (Messiah) centered. If you aren’t following the entire fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ then you need to take a hard look in the mirror and ask why you deny prophets and stone them with your words in our day.
 
Everything we teach is of Jesus Christ and Jesus the Christ (Messiah) centered. If you aren’t following the entire fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ then you need to take a hard look in the mirror and ask why you deny prophets and stone them with your words in our day.
Start another Topic on this, & Read the Rules about "Zone 1"
 
Mat 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you aren’t troubled, for all this must happen, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there will be famines, plagues, and earthquakes in various places.
Mat 24:8 But all these things are the beginning of birth pains.

Are the Birth Pains" increasing, & Coming Closer together?


Rev 6:1 I saw that the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying, as with a voice of thunder, “Come and see!”
Rev 6:2 And behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow. A crown was given to him, and he came out conquering, and to conquer.
Rev 6:3 When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, “Come!”
Rev 6:4 Another came out, a red horse. To him who sat on it was given power to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another. There was given to him a great sword.
Rev 6:5 When he opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, “Come and see!” And behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a balance in his hand.
Rev 6:6 I heard a voice in the middle of the four living creatures saying, “A choenix of wheat for a denarius, and three choenix of barley for a denarius! Don’t damage the oil and the wine!”
Rev 6:7 When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the fourth living creature saying, “Come and see!”
Rev 6:8 And behold, a pale horse, and he who sat on it, his name was Death. Hades followed with him. Authority over one fourth of the earth, to kill with the sword, with famine, with death, and by the wild animals of the earth was given to him.

Could another Depression be the opening of the "Third Seal", and another World War be the opening of the Fourth Seal?
 
With consideration towards the ever increasing "Birth Pains"/ "Signs of the Times",........

EVERYONE should Deeply Examine what They have been Taught, from The Pew!

Better Yet,...... Everyone that wants to enter The Kingdom of Heaven, should "Feast upon The Scriptures" as if they are indeed "The Bread of Life"!!!

Ya'll,............ No One is going to be "Raptured Up/Out", so as to escape the Horror of The end Times.

What is now on Mankind's Horizon, and soon to fall savagely upon Us,....will ABSOLUTELY Test Your Faith, in The Soon Returning Messiah, and,..... Like those who died for faith, by the hand of Rome, & later the Catholic "church",...... If You are not Willing to Die for Your Faith in "Jesus Christ", or better yet, in the Hebrew to English YahShuah HaMashaich,......

You will SEve the prophesied of "Little Horn"/"Antichrist".
 
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