kyzr
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1. The missile that hit our guys in Kuwait should have been taken out with THAAD, or Patriot, someone missed. Iran's targeting is by coordinates, so we should have relocated our high value stationary targets, like command centers.Missiles don't cost $20,000,000: AIM-120 ($1-$2 Million each), Patriot about $4 million), Iron Dome $40-$50 thousand).
Cost of the "drones" varies wildly depending on complexity, range, etc.
But you are correct, there is usually a cost disparity between cheap drones and the weapons used to kill them.
CWIS
Yes but remember that AA guns have
(a) a very limited range (effective out to 1.5 miles and maximum 4-5 miles).
(b) shoot very fast, meaning ammo depletes quickly and it takes time to reload.
(c) are used on the final point defense in a layered defense not as a one size fits all.
So when you look at an "effective range" problem you have to consider (a) is the unit defending self OR (b) is the unit defending others. If defending self the missile will be flying toward the area the unit is protecting and INTO the engagement envelope. However if the missile is flying over head or at range while traveling to another target, the "target" will likely be OUTSIDE the engagement envelope. The AA gun will likely not be in effective range for engagement leaving the missile (or drone) intended target vulnerable to the attack.
Meaning the only way (currently) to supply wide ranging defensive coverage to high value targets and civilians is via anti-missile missiles which also function as anti-drone to allow for wide area defense.
The AGR-20 Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System (APKWS) is a recent development that allows for modification of the unguided 2.75 inch rocket into a guided weapon that can be used for drone kills. It's still short range. However the converted 2.75 inch rocket is carried in a pod of 7 rockets each meaning aircraft can carry 42 rockets instead of just a few expensive traditional air-to-air missiles at millions each. The Unit Cost of an AGR-20 is about $22,000. WW
2. If the AGR-20 can also be truck mounted to kill drones as they approach cities or airports, that might be useful.
3. AA guns are just another "layer" of drone defense. Such as for cities on roof tops.
Seeing Dubai's skyscrapers burning is not a good look. They have money for anything that works.
4. Looks like the Arab states did not think Iran would target their cities. So now its time to get air defenses upgraded. Assuming the war will drag on a while.