What's next after this 2 trillion dollar pork bill, how about 3 trillion more?

[airplanemechanic]

Funny how the Republicans are only concerned about "spending" when the Democrats are in charge?

I mean, Trump ran up 8 trillion in new debt in one term... and you didn't hear a peep out of you guys on that one.

4 Trillion of that was covid relief and the spending bills were introduced by democrat run house of representatives, so don't blame Trump. Had Trump not signed it you'd have said he hated America and wanted them to suffer. So he's damned if he did and damned if he didnt.

For the record, I've been against every covid bill that has passed. I'm also against the eviction moratorium and believe that it is unconstitutional as the gov't has no authority to insert itself into a binding contract between two consenting parties.

 

[JoeB131]

4 Trillion of that was covid relief and the spending bills were introduced by democrat run house of representatives, so don't blame Trump. Had Trump not signed it you'd have said he hated America and wanted them to suffer. So he's damned if he did and damned if he didnt.

So we had to spend 4 trillion in extra money because Trump was so incompetent in handling Covid? Are you sure you are sad this guy is gone?

 

[Andylusion]

4 Trillion of that was covid relief and the spending bills were introduced by democrat run house of representatives, so don't blame Trump. Had Trump not signed it you'd have said he hated America and wanted them to suffer. So he's damned if he did and damned if he didnt.

So we had to spend 4 trillion in extra money because Trump was so incompetent in handling Covid? Are you sure you are sad this guy is gone?

Trump did not handle Covid badly or incompetent. You are just factually wrong on that.

No, we are against over spending. The problem is, the left-wing supported lock downs, which created a deficit increase.

That doesn't mean Trump was good on deficits before. He was not. And we complained about that on the right-wing routinely. I did. So did many others.

The only hypocrisy here, is people on the left who only complain about deficits when it's not their guy. The moment their own incompetent slob is in office, they start making excuses that somehow

"It's Trumps fault somehow that I can't explain because I'm a partisan bigot!"

No. You are just a hypocrite.

 

[airplanemechanic]

You can't lock the country down, put millions out of work, and then complain that the president is forced to sign a spending bill to hand people money.

It's like an arsonist complaining that the fireman shows up and spends taxpayer dollars putting out HIS fire.

 

[Andylusion]

You can't lock the country down, put millions out of work, and then complain that the president is forced to sign a spending bill to hand people money.

It's like an arsonist complaining that the fireman shows up and spends taxpayer dollars putting out HIS fire.

Well yes we can, because there should not be a lock down.

The problem with your example is that the Arsonist is also the Fireman. We're the ones complaining about the tax dollars.

The government is the one setting the fires by imposing a lock down, and then the government is the one taking our money, because well hey... there's a lock down, so we need to put you in poverty.

No. That's dumb.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump did not handle Covid badly or incompetent. You are just factually wrong on that.

500,000 dead. More than any other country in the world. yes, yes, he did.

No, we are against over spending. The problem is, the left-wing supported lock downs, which created a deficit increase.

Those deficits won't hit until this year... so um, no. The reason why we have deficits is Trump gave Trillions of dollars in tax cuts to rich people.

The only hypocrisy here, is people on the left who only complain about deficits when it's not their guy. The moment their own incompetent slob is in office, they start making excuses that somehow

Okay, both parties do that.. The thing is, Democrats actually try to do something about it. Clinton actually got rid of the deficit and was posting surpluses his last two years. Obama took Trillion dollar deficits and got them down to less than 400 Billion a year.

"It's Trumps fault somehow that I can't explain because I'm a partisan bigot!"

No. You are just a hypocrite.

Except I've already explained it.

Trump cut taxes and increased spending. Just like Bush and Reagan did, and he got EXACTLY the same result. I mean, you can almost excuse Reagan, no one had tried Supply Side up to that point, and when it didn't work, and he had the good sense to go along with tax increases and budget cuts in the later part of his term.

Bush and Trump just did it because. they don't even pretend it has benefits, they just want to give rich people tax breaks.

 

[JoeB131]

Well yes we can, because there should not be a lock down.

The problem with your example is that the Arsonist is also the Fireman. We're the ones complaining about the tax dollars.

The government is the one setting the fires by imposing a lock down, and then the government is the one taking our money, because well hey... there's a lock down, so we need to put you in poverty.

No. That's dumb.

Uh, guy, get real. The lockdowns/Trump Recession were bad, but total GDP in 2020 only shrank 2.3%, or 500 BILLION for the entire economy (not just the government). That was after 3 years of growth. Trump ran up the deficit by 7.8 TRILLION.

We have deficits because the rich aren't paying their fair share. Period.

 

[Bobob]

Trump's bad behavior cost him the election, no matter what. Mail-in voting is one way to vote, and Trump short-stopped the Postal Service. Didn't work.
Who was stupid that voted by mail-in ballot? Nobody who I know. Stupid are those who look for excuses to justify a loss.

Oh, you mean like the Russians did it, subservient women who were forced to vote against Hillary by the commands of their husbands, the FBI director, third party candidates, Bernie Sanders, Wikileaks, the Democrat National Committee?

Jesus fuck. Subserviant women are likely Republicans. Do you do anything but lie?

No you product of an anal fuck. It’s you Dimbo types who like to beat women. Right Mr. Ellison?

If the queen had balls, she would be king. Green energy has to become a part of our lives because fossil fuel is affecting our health and climate change demands a different approach. Fossil fuel ain't goin' nowhere. The private sector doesn't willingly accept change and is making an effort to bring green energy into the equation. With Trump, it all about money in his pocket. Computers and phones are not needed. Energy change is needed.
No, Trump reduced taxes on the super-wealthy--a huge mistake in a growing economy. With interest rates at an all-time low, and the wealthy investing their
increased wealth in the stock market and increasing the national debt by 2 trillion dollars, What do we do when the economy tanks? There are no arrows left in the quiver, thanks to that fool you elected.

Oh please, the feds are who was responsible for the economic turnaround with DumBama. They pumped trillions into the markets.

The only people spending money on this BS that will be happy are the kook environmentalists. We don't need green energy. It will come at it's own time. You know what will be accomplished by turning the country green with these measures? The same results as the last 100 things we did for the environment. The environmentalists will still be crying about global warming.

Why don't you people come to the realization that this global warming is a myth, and can't be controlled by man. As we have seen, global warming is nothing but a bottomless money pit that can never be filled, even with every green dollar every American has.

Green energy will come at its own time, and not through osmosis. The time is now,
to at least start the ball rolling. Climate change is not a myth and can be influenced,
but not controlled. Everything that we do environmentally is helpful. The orange blob and you people are unable to project or see the big picture. The blob only has his pocket in his thoughts and, of course, the control of you people.

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[Bobob]

Trump's bad behavior cost him the election, no matter what. Mail-in voting is one way to vote, and Trump short-stopped the Postal Service. Didn't work.
Who was stupid that voted by mail-in ballot? Nobody who I know. Stupid are those who look for excuses to justify a loss.

Oh, you mean like the Russians did it, subservient women who were forced to vote against Hillary by the commands of their husbands, the FBI director, third party candidates, Bernie Sanders, Wikileaks, the Democrat National Committee?

I don't understand your imaginary logic. Women forced to vote a certain way?
Yeah, right. Women did not vote at all because they didn't like Hillary. They voted this time. Comey cost Hillary the election with those Emails, anyway, and your blob
still denigrated him because he told the blob that he was loyal to the people first.

 

[Andylusion]

Trump did not handle Covid badly or incompetent. You are just factually wrong on that.

500,000 dead. More than any other country in the world. yes, yes, he did.

No, we are against over spending. The problem is, the left-wing supported lock downs, which created a deficit increase.

Those deficits won't hit until this year... so um, no. The reason why we have deficits is Trump gave Trillions of dollars in tax cuts to rich people.

The only hypocrisy here, is people on the left who only complain about deficits when it's not their guy. The moment their own incompetent slob is in office, they start making excuses that somehow

Okay, both parties do that.. The thing is, Democrats actually try to do something about it. Clinton actually got rid of the deficit and was posting surpluses his last two years. Obama took Trillion dollar deficits and got them down to less than 400 Billion a year.

View attachment 462928

"It's Trumps fault somehow that I can't explain because I'm a partisan bigot!"

No. You are just a hypocrite.

Except I've already explained it.

Trump cut taxes and increased spending. Just like Bush and Reagan did, and he got EXACTLY the same result. I mean, you can almost excuse Reagan, no one had tried Supply Side up to that point, and when it didn't work, and he had the good sense to go along with tax increases and budget cuts in the later part of his term.

Bush and Trump just did it because. they don't even pretend it has benefits, they just want to give rich people tax breaks.

500,000 dead. More than any other country in the world. yes, yes, he did.

False. You are factually in error.

Well yes we can, because there should not be a lock down.

The problem with your example is that the Arsonist is also the Fireman. We're the ones complaining about the tax dollars.

The government is the one setting the fires by imposing a lock down, and then the government is the one taking our money, because well hey... there's a lock down, so we need to put you in poverty.

No. That's dumb.

Uh, guy, get real. The lockdowns/Trump Recession were bad, but total GDP in 2020 only shrank 2.3%, or 500 BILLION for the entire economy (not just the government). That was after 3 years of growth. Trump ran up the deficit by 7.8 TRILLION.

We have deficits because the rich aren't paying their fair share. Period.

Idiot. Trump recession. That just makes you a moron. Trump opposed the lock downs. If the Democrats and had opposed the lock downs with him, there would have been no recession.

See, you are just another partisan hypocritical bigot. This is why we all know you people are just evil terrible people, and we're just flat out better people than you.

 

[Bobob]

Trump did not handle Covid badly or incompetent. You are just factually wrong on that.

500,000 dead. More than any other country in the world. yes, yes, he did.

No, we are against over spending. The problem is, the left-wing supported lock downs, which created a deficit increase.

Those deficits won't hit until this year... so um, no. The reason why we have deficits is Trump gave Trillions of dollars in tax cuts to rich people.

The only hypocrisy here, is people on the left who only complain about deficits when it's not their guy. The moment their own incompetent slob is in office, they start making excuses that somehow

Okay, both parties do that.. The thing is, Democrats actually try to do something about it. Clinton actually got rid of the deficit and was posting surpluses his last two years. Obama took Trillion dollar deficits and got them down to less than 400 Billion a year.

View attachment 462928

"It's Trumps fault somehow that I can't explain because I'm a partisan bigot!"

No. You are just a hypocrite.

Except I've already explained it.

Trump cut taxes and increased spending. Just like Bush and Reagan did, and he got EXACTLY the same result. I mean, you can almost excuse Reagan, no one had tried Supply Side up to that point, and when it didn't work, and he had the good sense to go along with tax increases and budget cuts in the later part of his term.

Bush and Trump just did it because. they don't even pretend it has benefits, they just want to give rich people tax breaks.

500,000 dead. More than any other country in the world. yes, yes, he did.

False. You are factually in error.

View attachment 462946

Well yes we can, because there should not be a lock down.

The problem with your example is that the Arsonist is also the Fireman. We're the ones complaining about the tax dollars.

The government is the one setting the fires by imposing a lock down, and then the government is the one taking our money, because well hey... there's a lock down, so we need to put you in poverty.

No. That's dumb.

Uh, guy, get real. The lockdowns/Trump Recession were bad, but total GDP in 2020 only shrank 2.3%, or 500 BILLION for the entire economy (not just the government). That was after 3 years of growth. Trump ran up the deficit by 7.8 TRILLION.

We have deficits because the rich aren't paying their fair share. Period.

Idiot. Trump recession. That just makes you a moron. Trump opposed the lock downs. If the Democrats and had opposed the lock downs with him, there would have been no recession.

See, you are just another partisan hypocritical bigot. This is why we all know you people are just evil terrible people, and we're just flat out better people than you.

 

[Bobob]

Trump did not handle Covid badly or incompetent. You are just factually wrong on that.

500,000 dead. More than any other country in the world. yes, yes, he did.

No, we are against over spending. The problem is, the left-wing supported lock downs, which created a deficit increase.

Those deficits won't hit until this year... so um, no. The reason why we have deficits is Trump gave Trillions of dollars in tax cuts to rich people.

The only hypocrisy here, is people on the left who only complain about deficits when it's not their guy. The moment their own incompetent slob is in office, they start making excuses that somehow

Okay, both parties do that.. The thing is, Democrats actually try to do something about it. Clinton actually got rid of the deficit and was posting surpluses his last two years. Obama took Trillion dollar deficits and got them down to less than 400 Billion a year.

View attachment 462928

"It's Trumps fault somehow that I can't explain because I'm a partisan bigot!"

No. You are just a hypocrite.

Except I've already explained it.

Trump cut taxes and increased spending. Just like Bush and Reagan did, and he got EXACTLY the same result. I mean, you can almost excuse Reagan, no one had tried Supply Side up to that point, and when it didn't work, and he had the good sense to go along with tax increases and budget cuts in the later part of his term.

Bush and Trump just did it because. they don't even pretend it has benefits, they just want to give rich people tax breaks.

500,000 dead. More than any other country in the world. yes, yes, he did.

False. You are factually in error.

View attachment 462946

Well yes we can, because there should not be a lock down.

The problem with your example is that the Arsonist is also the Fireman. We're the ones complaining about the tax dollars.

The government is the one setting the fires by imposing a lock down, and then the government is the one taking our money, because well hey... there's a lock down, so we need to put you in poverty.

No. That's dumb.

Uh, guy, get real. The lockdowns/Trump Recession were bad, but total GDP in 2020 only shrank 2.3%, or 500 BILLION for the entire economy (not just the government). That was after 3 years of growth. Trump ran up the deficit by 7.8 TRILLION.

We have deficits because the rich aren't paying their fair share. Period.

Idiot. Trump recession. That just makes you a moron. Trump opposed the lock downs. If the Democrats and had opposed the lock downs with him, there would have been no recession.

See, you are just another partisan hypocritical bigot. This is why we all know you people are just evil terrible people, and we're just flat out better people than you.

If there was no lockdown, we would be facing thousands or millions more covid cases and people would not be out and about due to fear of infection or already being infected. Business would certainly see empty stores. Either way, it sucks.
Also, the facts are that when infected with the covid, people's immune systems are unable to deal with the illnesses that they already had before the covid got them. The covid is responsible for their deaths.

 

[Bobob]

Trump's bad behavior cost him the election, no matter what. Mail-in voting is one way to vote, and Trump short-stopped the Postal Service. Didn't work.
Who was stupid that voted by mail-in ballot? Nobody who I know. Stupid are those who look for excuses to justify a loss.

Oh, you mean like the Russians did it, subservient women who were forced to vote against Hillary by the commands of their husbands, the FBI director, third party candidates, Bernie Sanders, Wikileaks, the Democrat National Committee?

Jesus fuck. Subserviant women are likely Republicans. Do you do anything but lie?

Not a lie, dumbo. An observation. And who made up that ignorant analysis, you?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Why not? No one has cared about the debt for years so why start now?

total bullshit---yes, people have cared..I've been saying it for years

You say people care but yet the debt continues to grow no matter who is in charge.

1. you don't refute my claim at all
2. that's why the Capitol protest was legit!!! for many reasons--they WON'T stop spending

They didn't storm the capitol because of spending you moron...and you know it......

If it were spending they were mad at -- they would have stormed the Capitol earlier when Trump was exploding the debt and deficit with tax cuts for billionaires

 

[RealDave]

Trump's bad behavior cost him the election, no matter what. Mail-in voting is one way to vote, and Trump short-stopped the Postal Service. Didn't work.
Who was stupid that voted by mail-in ballot? Nobody who I know. Stupid are those who look for excuses to justify a loss.

Oh, you mean like the Russians did it, subservient women who were forced to vote against Hillary by the commands of their husbands, the FBI director, third party candidates, Bernie Sanders, Wikileaks, the Democrat National Committee?

Jesus fuck. Subserviant women are likely Republicans. Do you do anything but lie?

Not a lie, dumbo. An observation. And who made up that ignorant analysis, you?

If you paid attention, you would know what I posted is true. Which Congresswoman had to get her husband's permission to run for office?

 

[RealDave]

Funny how the Republicans are only concerned about "spending" when the Democrats are in charge?

I mean, Trump ran up 8 trillion in new debt in one term... and you didn't hear a peep out of you guys on that one.

4 Trillion of that was covid relief and the spending bills were introduced by democrat run house of representatives, so don't blame Trump. Had Trump not signed it you'd have said he hated America and wanted them to suffer. So he's damned if he did and damned if he didnt.

For the record, I've been against every covid bill that has passed. I'm also against the eviction moratorium and believe that it is unconstitutional as the gov't has no authority to insert itself into a binding contract between two consenting parties.

I love it when you Trumpettes blamed Democrats for the spending when Republicans held the Senate & your fat assed orange hero signed it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Funny how the Republicans are only concerned about "spending" when the Democrats are in charge?

I mean, Trump ran up 8 trillion in new debt in one term... and you didn't hear a peep out of you guys on that one.

LOL you're such a tool

 

[Gdjjr]

What things did we destroy,

Recently, Iraq, Afghanistan, previously WW2, Vietnam. History isn't quite what you've been told.

 

[Bobob]

Trump's bad behavior cost him the election, no matter what. Mail-in voting is one way to vote, and Trump short-stopped the Postal Service. Didn't work.
Who was stupid that voted by mail-in ballot? Nobody who I know. Stupid are those who look for excuses to justify a loss.

Oh, you mean like the Russians did it, subservient women who were forced to vote against Hillary by the commands of their husbands, the FBI director, third party candidates, Bernie Sanders, Wikileaks, the Democrat National Committee?

Jesus fuck. Subserviant women are likely Republicans. Do you do anything but lie?

Not a lie, dumbo. An observation. And who made up that ignorant analysis, you?

If you paid attention, you would know what I posted is true. Which Congresswoman had to get her husband's permission to run for office?

Mine is a response to the subservient women remark.

 

[Andylusion]

Trump did not handle Covid badly or incompetent. You are just factually wrong on that.

500,000 dead. More than any other country in the world. yes, yes, he did.

No, we are against over spending. The problem is, the left-wing supported lock downs, which created a deficit increase.

Those deficits won't hit until this year... so um, no. The reason why we have deficits is Trump gave Trillions of dollars in tax cuts to rich people.

The only hypocrisy here, is people on the left who only complain about deficits when it's not their guy. The moment their own incompetent slob is in office, they start making excuses that somehow

Okay, both parties do that.. The thing is, Democrats actually try to do something about it. Clinton actually got rid of the deficit and was posting surpluses his last two years. Obama took Trillion dollar deficits and got them down to less than 400 Billion a year.

View attachment 462928

"It's Trumps fault somehow that I can't explain because I'm a partisan bigot!"

No. You are just a hypocrite.

Except I've already explained it.

Trump cut taxes and increased spending. Just like Bush and Reagan did, and he got EXACTLY the same result. I mean, you can almost excuse Reagan, no one had tried Supply Side up to that point, and when it didn't work, and he had the good sense to go along with tax increases and budget cuts in the later part of his term.

Bush and Trump just did it because. they don't even pretend it has benefits, they just want to give rich people tax breaks.

500,000 dead. More than any other country in the world. yes, yes, he did.

False. You are factually in error.

View attachment 462946

Well yes we can, because there should not be a lock down.

The problem with your example is that the Arsonist is also the Fireman. We're the ones complaining about the tax dollars.

The government is the one setting the fires by imposing a lock down, and then the government is the one taking our money, because well hey... there's a lock down, so we need to put you in poverty.

No. That's dumb.

Uh, guy, get real. The lockdowns/Trump Recession were bad, but total GDP in 2020 only shrank 2.3%, or 500 BILLION for the entire economy (not just the government). That was after 3 years of growth. Trump ran up the deficit by 7.8 TRILLION.

We have deficits because the rich aren't paying their fair share. Period.

Idiot. Trump recession. That just makes you a moron. Trump opposed the lock downs. If the Democrats and had opposed the lock downs with him, there would have been no recession.

See, you are just another partisan hypocritical bigot. This is why we all know you people are just evil terrible people, and we're just flat out better people than you.

If there was no lockdown, we would be facing thousands or millions more covid cases and people would not be out and about due to fear of infection or already being infected. Business would certainly see empty stores. Either way, it sucks.
Also, the facts are that when infected with the covid, people's immune systems are unable to deal with the illnesses that they already had before the covid got them. The covid is responsible for their deaths.

Prove that.

Because there are numerous countries that had less of a lock down than NYC or SF, and they didn't have the nightmare results you claim.

In fact, even in the US, we didn't. Florida never had the lock downs of NYC, and Florida has a vastly older population which is claimed to be the most at risk of covid, and yet comparatively Florida never did reach the levels of covid that NYC is supposed to have.

So facts don't support your opinion.