Imagining a different kind of presidency.

[Mac-7]

The Founders were right to warn against this.

The two parties are not equally bad

If you cant decide between the two and work to make the less evil party better you should defect to some other country more to your liking

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The idea that because a plurality of voters checked the box for lower inflation and better border security it means they approve of trump's agenda is intellectually bankrupt.

Should we let all the illegal aliens remain in the US with free Medicare?

 

[berg80]

The two parties are not equally bad

If you cant decide between the two and work to make the less evil party better you should defect to some other country more to your liking

True. The one in power is lead by an unapologetic authoritarian. Not someone who looks like one, or aspires to be one. Someone who is governing as an authoritarian. Attacking enemies, using his position to amass personal wealth, blurring the line between government and private enterprise, using the apparatus of the state to reward friends and punish foes, stifling dissent, consolidating power, using the military inside US borders. The parallels to autocracies are unequivocal.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Repubs would rather use the issue as a cudgel. Which is why Dotard sabotaged the reform bill last year.

And that's why Trump shut down the flow and is deporting hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens.

As a cudgel.

DURR

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

ICE Is Arresting 1,100 Percent More Noncriminals on the Streets Than in 2017

ICE is arresting more illegal aliens. Hurray!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You mean they’re arresting illegal aliens who haven’t committed any ADDITIONAL crime? Good!

I'd like to see how many of the "non-criminal" illegal aliens haven't committed tax fraud and/or identity theft.

 

[Nostra]

ICE Is Arresting 1,100 Percent More Noncriminals on the Streets Than in 2017​

Last week, the Cato Institute published new, nonpublic data showing that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is mostly detaining noncriminals and that most arrested immigrants with criminal convictions are not violent offenders. Thanks to a Freedom of Information Act request by DeportationData.org, a group that gathers FOIA data on ICE arrests, another dataset has become available, confirming ICE’s unprecedented crackdown on peaceful people.

https://www.cato.org/blog/ice-arresting-1100-percent-more-noncriminals-streets-2017

But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your beliefs. You never have before, no point in starting now.

If they came in illegally, they are criminals.

100% of them.

Next?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Does Not ‘Accept’ 5,000 Illegal Immigrants a Day​

Leading up to the vote, House Majority Leader Steve Scalise on social media said the bill “accepts 5,000 illegal immigrants a day.” Republican Sen. Marsha Blackburn added her voice to the opposition, posting that she would “never vote to make illegal immigration legal.”

Those comments misrepresented the bill.

The bill stated that temporary border emergency authority would be automatically activated by the Department of Homeland Security secretary if there is an average of 5,000 or more migrant encounters a day over seven consecutive days — or if there are 8,500 or more such encounters on any single day. In December — according to the latest data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection — there was an average of more than 8,000 encounters a day of migrants who crossed the border illegally between points of entry.

Migrants attempting to cross into the U.S. from Mexico are detained by U.S. Customs and Border Protection on May 5, 2023, in San Luis, Arizona. Photo by Nick Ut/Getty Images.
“It’s not that the first 5,000 [migrants encountered at the border] are released, that’s ridiculous,” Lankford said on the Senate floor. “The first 5,000 we detain, we screen and then we deport. If we get above 5,000, we just detain and deport.”

In a social media post on Feb. 5, Trump wrote, “Only a fool, or a Radical Left Democrat, would vote for this horrendous Border Bill, which only gives Shutdown Authority after 5000 Encounters a day.”

He’s wrong about the 5,000 encounters threshold. Although that is the threshold for mandatory activation of the emergency authority, the bill also would have extended “discretionary activation” to the Homeland Security secretary once there is an average of 4,000 or more encounters over seven consecutive days. Customs and Border Protection provides only monthly data, and looking at data during the Trump administration the number of encounters would have reached that threshold in May 2019, when encounters averaged 4,286 per day.

“The reason we’re doing that [providing emergency authority] is because we want to be able to shut down the system when it gets overloaded, so we have enough time to process those asylum claims,” Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, who helped craft the bill, said on CBS’ “Face the Nation” on Feb. 4.

“So we have placed provisions in the law that mandate the enforcement of each of these provisions of our law and require the Biden administration and any future administration to actually implement this,” Sinema, an independent who caucuses with the Democrats, said. “So, we’re requiring it, not permitting it.”

In other words, while President Joe Biden had said that if the bill passed he would have exercised that emergency authority immediately, it would not have been a choice at this time — it would have been mandatory.

As for claims that the bill would allow or accept 5,000 illegal crossings a day, that’s a distortion of what’s in the bill.

“That authority would be mandated when arrivals exceed an average over the previous seven days of 5,000,” Theresa Cardinal Brown, a senior adviser on immigration and border policy at the Bipartisan Policy Center, told us via email. “This is not a number that is ‘allowed in.’ It is a threshold of ARRIVALS that triggers a new authority.”

“We already have more than 5,000 illegal crossings happening,” Brown said. “We aren’t ‘allowing it’; it is happening, and we then have to deal with it.”

“There is this idea that we control how many migrants attempt illegal crossings. We do not. The migrants (and smugglers) control that,” Brown said. “We control what happens once we encounter someone who has already crossed the border illegally.”

“We already have more than 5,000 illegal crossings happening,” Brown said. “We aren’t ‘allowing it’; it is happening, and we then have to deal with it.”

It's not happening anymore.

 

[Lesh]

Hard working illegal aliens need to go and be replaced with hard working LEGAL immigrants. You don't seem to think too deeply do you?

And unicorns should be in my backyard shittinf gold bricks

 

[Leo123]

And unicorns should be in my backyard shittinf gold bricks

You’d rather have illegal alien shitting on our country I get it

 

[whitehall]

2013? McCain? What the hell bipartisan plan was that and how the hell did old Joe get away with open borders?

 

[Lesh]

You’d rather have illegal alien shitting on our country I get it

Dude… where I live they are all over (working the farms).

They shit in toilets like everyone else

 

[berg80]

Ask yourself where FOX gets its news stories from. Dumbass.
It's all spins on the same propaganda. Putting a little right English on a turdball makes it still a turdball.

Americans’ views of President Donald Trump’s job performance remain negative amid a flurry of activity from his administration on tariffs, immigration and public health, according to the latest NBC News Decision Desk Poll powered by SurveyMonkey.

Notably, the poll shows U.S. adults expressing strong, bipartisan support for vaccines as Trump’s health and human services secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has moved to limit certain shots. The poll was conducted before Democratic and some Republican senators sparred with Kennedy over vaccine access during a contentious congressional hearing last week.

Respondents said they prefer leadership with political experience over outsiders who will shake things up, amid a second Trump presidency defined by sweeping and rapid change.

Just over 4 in 10 Americans, 43%, approve of Trump’s job performance in the survey, similar to his standing in June, while 57% disapprove. Trump’s weakest ratings are on economic matters, with 39% approving of his handling of inflation and 41% approving of his handling of trade and tariffs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/07/trump-job-ratings-negative-americans-stronly-support-vaccines-poll.html

 

[berg80]

2013? McCain? What the hell bipartisan plan was that and how the hell did old Joe get away with open borders?

There were no and never have been open borders.

 

[Leo123]

Dude… where I live they are all over (working the farms).

They shit in toilets like everyone else

They shat on your wages.

 

[Lesh]

They shat on your wages.

But wages are going up.

Hmmm