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Jesus stayed out of the political arena, he stated so many times, so he would have said nothing.
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Jesus stayed out of the political arena, he stated so many times, so he would have said nothing.
BULLDOG
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Giving through a church is a wonderful way to help the unfortunate, however, nothing in the bible says it is the only way. Government fines are imposed by the people who were voted to receive the authority to set those fines. If Christians can vote for politicians who will help the unfortunate, God's instructions require that we do.
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Works for me. If I give it to the government to help the needy, they stay needy. Black America is a great example.
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That's hilarious. You look at the rot and corruption in DC and think THAT is "showing compassion"? Oh yeah. They have a lot of compassion on lining their own bank accounts.
This is so naive and funny
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For several reasons, it is my preferred way--and also the better way.
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so now you agree that render unto caesar crap is bullshit?
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The federal government should manage national trade, national security, transportation routes across the nation. All else can and should be taken care of by people at more personal and more local levels. This results in strong, independent people who can take care of themselves and each other instead of a nanny state where the people are physically unfit, weak, and dependent.
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He didnt want to be a political leader. He had no issue discussing issues.
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This I another example of ignoring parts of the bible that you just don’t like. After you quote “render unto Caesar, you ignore the rest of the sentence. First, you ignore the conjunction AND which means both part are equally important. Then you ignore “ render unto God the things that are Gods”. Our instruction to show compassion is one of the most important tenants of Christianity. Paying taxes doesn’t relieve us of our obligation to care for the less fortunate in any way we can.
There was no ability to vote in the bible, and no authority of the people to determine laws. Caesar’s word was law. Today, we have the right to determine our government’s actions with our vote. God expects us to use that right to fulfill his instructions to show compassion.
You don’t understand that hypocritically spouting things like “render unto Caesar” in an effort to justify your ignoring of God’s instruction for political reasons is why Christianity is ridiculed so much?
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What political things did Jesus discuss?
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Meriweather
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You skipped past what I wrote:
strong, independent people who can take care of themselves and each other
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Among the many deviations of the movie "Titanic" from the true story, one is especially important.
In the movie, when the ship sinks, first-class passengers try to get into the lifeboats, the number of which is limited. Only the determination of hardened sailors, who with weapons in their hands drive away the plutocrats clinging to the sides of the boats, allows women and children to get there.
According to the stories of those who survived the disaster, in reality, representatives of the upper classes, with almost no exceptions, followed the rule "women and children first." This is irrefutably evidenced by statistics.
In first class, all children and almost all of the 144 women were saved (with the exception of five of them, and three of them preferred to die with their husbands), and 70 percent of the men died. In second class, which was also traveled by well-to-do representatives of various professions, 80 percent of women were saved, and 90 percent of men drowned.
On the Titanic, men from the list of first-class passengers actually made up the then list of "Forbes-400". As they say, John Jacob Astor - by common opinion, the richest man in America at that time - made his way to the boat, but refused to take a place in it, but only put his wife there, waving goodbye to her.
Benjamin Guggenheim also refused a place in the boat, giving his place to one of the women. He only asked that she pass a message to his home: "Tell my wife that I played by the rules to the end." No woman will be left on board this ship because Ben Guggenheim turned out to be a coward...
In other words, some of the most influential people in the world firmly adhered to an unwritten code of honor, even though it promised them certain death.
The filmmakers had a good reason to distort history:
Today no one would believe it.
In the movie, when the ship sinks, first-class passengers try to get into the lifeboats, the number of which is limited. Only the determination of hardened sailors, who with weapons in their hands drive away the plutocrats clinging to the sides of the boats, allows women and children to get there.
According to the stories of those who survived the disaster, in reality, representatives of the upper classes, with almost no exceptions, followed the rule "women and children first." This is irrefutably evidenced by statistics.
In first class, all children and almost all of the 144 women were saved (with the exception of five of them, and three of them preferred to die with their husbands), and 70 percent of the men died. In second class, which was also traveled by well-to-do representatives of various professions, 80 percent of women were saved, and 90 percent of men drowned.
On the Titanic, men from the list of first-class passengers actually made up the then list of "Forbes-400". As they say, John Jacob Astor - by common opinion, the richest man in America at that time - made his way to the boat, but refused to take a place in it, but only put his wife there, waving goodbye to her.
Benjamin Guggenheim also refused a place in the boat, giving his place to one of the women. He only asked that she pass a message to his home: "Tell my wife that I played by the rules to the end." No woman will be left on board this ship because Ben Guggenheim turned out to be a coward...
In other words, some of the most influential people in the world firmly adhered to an unwritten code of honor, even though it promised them certain death.
The filmmakers had a good reason to distort history:
Today no one would believe it.
The hypocrisy is yours. You complain about keeping religion out of government and now you are arguing religion should be brought into government. How am I being hypocritical?
I don’t need religion to know ending a human life is wrong. Abortion isn’t a religious issue. Abortion is a human rights issue.
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Now you care what Jesus would do??? give me a break....
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Papageorgio
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They get their info on what to claim next, they are just an echo chamber, that way they don’t need to think.
They need to pick a lane. Do they want religion in government or do they want to keep religion out of government?
Or they can just continue to be hypocrites.
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