What Killed Rock-N-Roll?

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What Killed Rock-N-Roll?
This is a thread I have wanted to start for a long time. If your my age 58 and grew up listening to bands like Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, The Beatles, The Who etc... Than I know that the absence of Rock-N-Roll in your life today bothers you as much as it does me.

If you look this up online you will find a myriad of reasons as to what killed rock-n-roll, but I'm not going to go over all of these but will just touch on some of them.

Quoting Gene Simmons:
Simmons spoke about rock's supposed diminishing status during a new interview with Jonathan Clarke of New York's Q104.3 radio station. Asked if he meant his original "rock is dead" comment in terms of radio airplay or streaming numbers, Gene said: "In all ways. And the culprits are the young fans. You killed the thing that you love. Because as soon as streaming came in, you took away a chance for the new great bands who are there in the shadows, who can't quit their day job 'cause you can't make a dime putting your music out there, because when you download stuff, it's one-hundredth or one-thousandth of one penny. And so you've gotta have millions to millions, and even billions of downloads before you can make a few grand. And the fans have killed that thing. So the business is dead. And that means that the next BEATLES or the next whoever is never gonna get the chance that we did. We had record companies that gave us millions of dollars so we can make records and tour, and not worry about a nine-to-five [job]. Because when you're worried about nine-to-five, you don't have the time to sit there and devote to your art, whatever that is."


Quoting Bob Dylan:

From its fused inception, rock ‘n’ roll was already a racially integrated American invention being blasted in teenage bedrooms as early as 1955, but as the Civil Rights Movement was gaining momentum going into 1960, the genre was being commercially segregated, on the sly, into white (British Invasion) and black (soul) music by the (WASPy) establishment.

“Racial prejudice has been around awhile, so, yeah. And that was extremely threatening for the city fathers, I would think. When they finally recognized what it was, they had to dismantle it, which they did, starting with payola scandals. The black element was turned into soul music, and the white element was turned into English pop. They separated it […] Well, it was apart of my DNA, so it never disappeared from me. I just incorporated it into other aspects of what I was doing. I don’t know if this answers the question. [Laughs.] I can’t remember what the question was.”


The same article is also about payola paid to disc jockeys across the country to play certain songs from white artist.



From an article at spinditty.com

Why Isn't Rock Music Popular Anymore?​

These are samples of responses from a forum that asked the question of why rock music is in decline.

  • "Music for youth is now about the packaging and the presentation—not the music."
  • "Today's 'stars' are nothing more than video-created characters that rely too much on flashing lights, backup dancers, video editing to make them look like they're actually singing, and much much more."
  • "It's all about making lots of money now."

The best reasons I have found for the demise of rock music can be found on this YouTube video from a guy name Rick Beato. Worth the watch.


So, what's your opinion on what killed rock-n-roll?
 

What Killed Rock-N-Roll?
This is a thread I have wanted to start for a long time. If your my age 58 and grew up listening to bands like Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, The Beatles, The Who etc... Than I know that the absence of Rock-N-Roll in your life today bothers you as much as it does me.

If you look this up online you will find a myriad of reasons as to what killed rock-n-roll, but I'm not going to go over all of these but will just touch on some of them.

Quoting Gene Simmons:
Simmons spoke about rock's supposed diminishing status during a new interview with Jonathan Clarke of New York's Q104.3 radio station. Asked if he meant his original "rock is dead" comment in terms of radio airplay or streaming numbers, Gene said: "In all ways. And the culprits are the young fans. You killed the thing that you love. Because as soon as streaming came in, you took away a chance for the new great bands who are there in the shadows, who can't quit their day job 'cause you can't make a dime putting your music out there, because when you download stuff, it's one-hundredth or one-thousandth of one penny. And so you've gotta have millions to millions, and even billions of downloads before you can make a few grand. And the fans have killed that thing. So the business is dead. And that means that the next BEATLES or the next whoever is never gonna get the chance that we did. We had record companies that gave us millions of dollars so we can make records and tour, and not worry about a nine-to-five [job]. Because when you're worried about nine-to-five, you don't have the time to sit there and devote to your art, whatever that is."


Quoting Bob Dylan:

From its fused inception, rock ‘n’ roll was already a racially integrated American invention being blasted in teenage bedrooms as early as 1955, but as the Civil Rights Movement was gaining momentum going into 1960, the genre was being commercially segregated, on the sly, into white (British Invasion) and black (soul) music by the (WASPy) establishment.

“Racial prejudice has been around awhile, so, yeah. And that was extremely threatening for the city fathers, I would think. When they finally recognized what it was, they had to dismantle it, which they did, starting with payola scandals. The black element was turned into soul music, and the white element was turned into English pop. They separated it […] Well, it was apart of my DNA, so it never disappeared from me. I just incorporated it into other aspects of what I was doing. I don’t know if this answers the question. [Laughs.] I can’t remember what the question was.”


The same article is also about payola paid to disc jockeys across the country to play certain songs from white artist.



From an article at spinditty.com

Why Isn't Rock Music Popular Anymore?​

These are samples of responses from a forum that asked the question of why rock music is in decline.

  • "Music for youth is now about the packaging and the presentation—not the music."
  • "Today's 'stars' are nothing more than video-created characters that rely too much on flashing lights, backup dancers, video editing to make them look like they're actually singing, and much much more."
  • "It's all about making lots of money now."

The best reasons I have found for the demise of rock music can be found on this YouTube video from a guy name Rick Beato. Worth the watch.


So, what's your opinion on what killed rock-n-roll?

Radio airplay killed the genre. Especially with the Blues. Ask the manager bitch Rita at KLOS.
 
Teenage girls have always been the biggest buyers of music. It's why pop has always dominated and always sucked. That's the main thing but something else has happened. Young men seem to have just dropped out of having music preferences anymore. They seem satisfied with whatever crap is coming out of the radio.
 
auto tune & choreographed 'artists '. who really plays an instrument anymore? there are teams of song writers now for anybody that can dance or is full of silicone. what IS refreshing are the reaction videos on youtube - where young people, but especially black people who have expanded their worlds listening to real REAL music. so many say that today's so called music is pretty lame & unoriginal compared to the bands you mentioned.
 
Teenage girls have always been the biggest buyers of music. It's why pop has always dominated and always sucked. That's the main thing but something else has happened. Young men seem to have just dropped out of having music preferences anymore. They seem satisfied with whatever crap is coming out of the radio.
Funny how you don't even see anyone playing instruments anymore. Sad!
 
Hey, Hey, My, My
Rock and Roll will never die

Rock and Roll will live forever
You can play 60 year old Rock songs and a 25 year old will recognize the song and the artist

Todays music will not be remembered in 15 years
 
Hey, Hey, My, My
Rock and Roll will never die

Rock and Roll will live forever
You can play 60 year old Rock songs and a 25 year old will recognize the song and the artist

Todays music will not be remembered in 15 years
I don't agree that a 25 yr. old will recognize the old rock song, that is unless we teach it to them. I do agree with you that non of today's music will be remembered in yrs. to come.
 
There is a ton of good stuff. You just have to know where to find it.





(and some friends of mine, they played for a benefit I put on to raise money for the local high school band)

 
I don't agree that a 25 yr. old will recognize the old rock song, that is unless we teach it to them. I do agree with you that non of today's music will be remembered in yrs. to come.

Watch any movie, commercial and they have oldies rock in the soundtrack. Any 25 year old recognizes it and will admit they like it

You can still see Rock Bands that are composed of 20 year olds
 
Funny how you don't even see anyone playing instruments anymore. Sad!
There are still a lot of brilliant people putting out great music. You're just not going to hear them on the radio. People who have actual taste have retreated to online playlists leaving the airways a rancid mix of commercials with occasional music breaks for dolts who don't know any better.
 
I think there is a void waiting to be filled. We haven't had a great rock group with a killer lead vocalist for like what 30 years? There won't be until someone like an Elon Musk puts up the millions to back the next great rock group by himself.
 
Watch any movie, commercial and they have oldies rock in the soundtrack. Any 25 year old recognizes it and will admit they like it

You can still see Rock Bands that are composed of 20 year olds
Right, but that movie/commercial doesn't tell them who it is so they have no idea what to search for online. I guess they could asked someone though.
 
I think there is a void waiting to be filled. We haven't had a great rock group with a killer lead vocalist for like what 30 years? There won't be until someone like an Elon Musk puts up the millions to back the next great rock group by himself.
IMO, Foo fighters were probably the last mainstream blues based rock band, but sadly that's been since mid nineties?
 

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