What is the weakness of the right

[1srelluc]

Agree to let us go and all your problems are solved.

It would be a "all your wildest dreams will come true" moment for the rest of the country.....Nothing good politically comes out of Texas, nothing....LBJ and W come to mind, not to mention your stupid abortion law that is going to bite everyone else in the ass when the dems learn to apply it to other things near and dear to the right-leaning's hearts like 2A.....Oh wait, CA already has a Bill in the works based on the "TX formula".

 

[Votto]

I didn't say I'm a Democrat. I said I'm left wing.

Ok so why identify as left wing?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The weakness of the Right is the same as the weakness of the Left:

Overcompensation in virtually every conversation, on virtually every issue.

They just go too fucking far.

If by "too far" you mean further erode individual liberty, I agree. both the left and the right have the liberties they cherish, and the other liberties they despise and shit on.

The left needs to cleanse itself of Marxists.

The right needs to cleanse itself of Jesus Nazis.

Both need to cleanse themselves of the military/industrial complex.

The purpose of government is to protect individual liberty. That is it. That is all. Nothing else.

 

[Anomalism]

Ok so why identify as left wing?

I think this country should focus more on helping its citizens gain easier access to healthcare and higher education. A healthy and learned America is a strong America, and we need to be strong if we're going to keep up with China. I support capitalism. I'm not a socialist, but I do think we should let Europe defend itself so we can focus more funds on things I think are good for our country, like healthcare and education.

 

[Votto]

I think this country should focus more on helping its citizens gain easier access to healthcare and higher education. A healthy and learned America is a strong America, and we need to be strong if we're going to keep up with China. I support capitalism. I'm not a socialist, but I do think we should let Europe defend itself so we can focus more funds on things I think are good for our country, like healthcare and education.

Well I guess that is why I'm not left wing because I absolutely hate education and health care.

All conservatives do.

 

[Anomalism]

Well I guess that is why I'm not left wing because I absolutely hate education and health care.

All conservatives do.

Nah.

But conservatives do tend to think it's immoral to do anything but let the market determine everything. That's not how I see it.

 

[eagle1462010]

Nah.

But conservatives do tend to think it's immoral to do anything but let the market determine everything. That's not how I see it.

We see an education in the fundamentals of helping children learn basic skills to help get jobs and make a living later in life. Not pushing Critical Race theory and other MORAL ISSUES. That is not the purpose of education.

Morals and beliefs by the family not the school. The Markets are fucked when your own gov't pick the winners and losers. That is why we are screwed today.

 

[Anomalism]

We see an education in the fundamentals of helping children learn basic skills to help get jobs and make a living later in life. Not pushing Critical Race theory and other MORAL ISSUES. That is not the purpose of education.

Morals and beliefs by the family not the school. The Markets are fucked when your own gov't pick the winners and losers. That is why we are screwed today.

I wouldn't have an issue if public schools didn't try to teach kids what is or isn't moral. I understand that some parents are feeling undermined when it comes to how they want to raise their children. Maybe we should focus more on fundamentals.

 

[Votto]

Nah.

But conservatives do tend to think it's immoral to do anything but let the market determine everything. That's not how I see it.

What I think is immoral is having an education system where poor kids are forced to attend inferior inner city schools that are primarily made up of minorities and have no hope of obtaining an education to escape their segregated imposed poverty.

Having school choice is the key to overcoming this, which conservatives support.

Democrats control teachers unions who are now pushing CRT and gender studies which have led to a 4000% increase in gender confusion and makes children either hate themselves or feel like a victim because of the color of their skin. Meanwhile, in math and science democrat public schools trail close to 40th in the world.

Beside, math is racist

So yea, government DOES need to get more involved to stop this.

As for health care, I see nothing wrong in helping those in need obtain health care, but I do see something wrong in screwing with everyone else.

So yea, I guess I'm left wing as well

Who knew?

 

[Votto]

I wouldn't have an issue if public schools didn't try to teach kids what is or isn't moral. I understand that some parents are feeling undermined when it comes to how they want to raise their children. Maybe we should focus more on fundamentals.

How can you teach children in a moral vacuum? You can't. Trying to teach children in a moral vacuum is still teaching morality, only, it teaches them that reading and writing and math is more important that morality which they are not.

But that is not what is happening now, what is happening now is that schools have adopted a new moral religion of the Left that tells children what is woke is moral and what is not is evil, and because they don't mention the "G" word, all is well.

This reminds me of a public school in Ohio where a girl was raped in study hall. When the parent found out about it he ran to the school demanding answers, and the first thing out of the schools mouth was not to alert the media and that they would handle everything. Then I will never forget the response of the teacher who was suppose to supervise the children in study hall. She said it was not her job to teach the children morality.

And that is why we are at where we are at.

 

[Anomalism]

What I think is immoral is having an education system where poor kids are forced to attend inferior inner city schools that are primarily made up of minorities and have no hope of obtaining an education to escape their segregated imposed poverty.

Having school choice is the key to overcoming this, which conservatives support.

Democrats control teachers unions who are now pushing CRT and gender studies which have led to a 4000% increase in gender confusion and makes children either hate themselves or feel like a victim because of the color of their skin. Meanwhile, in math and science democrat public schools trail close to 40th in the world.

So yea, government DOES need to get more involved to stop this.

As for health care, I see nothing wrong in helping those in need obtain health care, but I do see something wrong in screwing with everyone else.

So yea, I guess I'm left wing as well

Who knew?

I think universal healthcare and more public tuition assistance are inevitabilities. I see conservatives as largely just being in the way of progress when it comes to those things. It always turns into a disagreement about morality. I think conservatives will eventually lose that fight.

 

[Kondor3]

What is the weakness of the Right (in the US)?

Donald Trump.

Not the agenda... but the man.

Right message... wrong messenger.

Find another front-man (or -woman)... with a shred of decency, integrity, humility, eloquence and competency... actually fit for high office...

Find another front-person who knows how to persuade rather than dictate, who understands Cincinnatus, who understands servant-leadership...

Do that, and I'll dump the idiot Dems in a heartbeat and seriously consider voting Republican again, once the GOP becomes Grand (and sane) again...

And do whatever I can amongst friends and family and colleagues and internet correspondents to do the very same thing... but not UNTIL then...

A sentiment that is shared by vast legions of Independents, Centrists and fence-sitters, no doubt... a bloc of voters that the GOP is going to need over time.

 

[Anomalism]

How can you teach children in a moral vacuum? You can't. Trying to teach children in a moral vacuum is still teaching morality, only, it teaches them that reading and writing and math is more important that morality which they are not.

But that is not what is happening now, what is happening now is that schools have adopted a new moral religion of the Left that tells children what is woke is moral and what is not is evil, and because they don't mention the "G" word, all is well.

This reminds me of a public school in Ohio where a girl was raped in study hall. When the parent found out about it he ran to the school demanding answers, and the first thing out of the schools mouth was not to alert the media and that they would handle everything. Then I will never forget the response of the teacher who was suppose to supervise the children in study hall. She said it was not her job to teach the children morality.

And that is why we are at where we are at.

So you think the children should be taught what you believe to be moral instead? What is moral? What should we teach kids about it in public schools?

 

[Votto]

I think universal healthcare and more public tuition assistance are inevitabilities. I see conservatives as largely just being in the way of progress when it comes to those things. It always turns into a disagreement about morality. I think conservatives will eventually lose that fight.

The US does have universal health care, for veterans.

And we have seen how they care for them. The very sick are neglected, as we saw with the Arizona VA making up secret lists to not treat people because they did not have the funds or staff to treat them, so they made stuff up.

And there are a myriad of other examples of how they have screwed soldiers over, like not treating them for Agent Orange or the Gulf War syndrome in order to save money.

And as we saw the IRS target conservatives I don't cherish the thought of them using the medical system to do the same.

So no, I don't agree with government run health care. Government should only be a referee, and not the one running with the ball who are both player and referee.

 

[Anomalism]

The US does have universal health care, for veterans.

And we have seen how they care for them. The very sick are neglected, as we saw with the Arizona VA making up secret lists to not treat people because they did not have the funds or staff to treat them, so they made stuff up.

And there are a myriad of other examples of how they have screwed soldiers over, like not treating them for Agent Orange or the Gulf War syndrome in order to save money.

And as we saw the IRS target conservatives I don't cherish the thought of them using the medical system to do the same.

So no, I don't agree with government run health care. Government should only be a referee, and not the one running with the ball who are both player and referee.

Veterans still use the VA even though they could get private healthcare. Why is that? Would they be better off with no VA? Maybe having the option is better than not having it?

 

[Votto]

So you think the children should be taught what you believe to be moral instead? What is moral? What should we teach kids about it in public schools?

Children SHOULD be taught that rape is wrong.

That SHOULD be taught in schools.

Or do you disagree?

But it does open a Pandora's box of what is good or bad to teach regarding morality, but only when it comes to sex. Things that are sex related should be left to the parents, which they are not. Instead, they bring drag queens in to small children to read them stories at school and teach them that they could be another sex and will even help children transition to another sex before they are even old enough to have sex.

This is radicalism. This is sick.. This needs to stop.

And no, the color of your skin does not make you good or bad.

 

[Anomalism]

Children SHOULD be taught that rape is wrong.

That SHOULD be taught in schools.

Or do you disagree?

But it does open a Pandora's box of what is good or bad to teach regarding morality, but only when it comes to sex. Things that are sex related should be left to the parents, which they are not. Instead, they bring drag queens in to small children to read them stories at school and teach them that they could be another sex and will even help children transition to another sex before they are even old enough to have sex.

This is radicalism. This is sick.. This needs to stop.

I think it's generally understood by functional people and society at large that rape is wrong.

 

[Votto]

Veterans still use the VA even though they could get private healthcare. Why is that? Would they be better off with no VA? Maybe having the option is better than not having it?

They can get private care and do get private care.

I had a grandpa who used his VA for simply stuff to save money, but things that were more complicated he went to a private physician for better care and was willing to pay out of pocket for that better care.

At least, he had the option, an option they want to take away.

 

[Anomalism]

They can get private care and do get private care.

I had a grandpa who used his VA for simply stuff to save money, but things that were more complicated he went to a private physician for better care and was willing to pay out of pocket for that better care.

At least, he had the option, and option they want to take away.

Maybe it should be like that for everybody. If you can't afford or don't want to afford some expensive private care then maybe there should be a public option. Of course private care is going to be better. It always is, even in Europe. That doesn't mean that public care wouldn't be useful to a lot of people even though private care tends to be better. There should be a public option. It would be good for the country. It would lead to a lot more preventative care.

 

[Votto]

I think it's generally understood by functional people and society at large that rape is wrong.

Tell that to the teacher in that study hall.

That is where we are at as a society.

Is theft wrong? Tell that to the Left who is decriminalizing theft all around the country and telling the police to stand down during looting and riots. Theft to them is reparations.