What is bad about socialism?

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

How many are for privately owned Army, Navy, Air Force, etc., etc..?

Suddenly collective ownership takes on a whole new light, I bet.

You think you made a point here. You haven’t.

 

[Soupnazi630]

So, then, under capitalism human liberty and freedoms are degraded unnecessarily? That would fit my observations. It is done for profit, not out of necessity.

By definition being forced to work for necessity IS DEGREDATION Of feeedoms

Socialism is slavery controlled by the state. Oh sure collectivist ownership but since nothing gets done collectively the state controls all

 

[Soupnazi630]

How many are for privately owned Army, Navy, Air Force, etc., etc..?

Suddenly collective ownership takes on a whole new light, I bet.

Massive fail

 

[Soupnazi630]

How many are for privately owned Army, Navy, Air Force, etc., etc..?

Suddenly collective ownership takes on a whole new light, I bet.

Massive fail

 

[Orangecat]

 

[M14 Shooter]

Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

It denies economic freedom, stifles economic growth, crushes productivity, retards innovation and technological advancement, and it is the antithesis of human nature.

 

[GLASNOST]

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[Orangecat]

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Incorrect. You get imprisoned for stealing some. Earning it is the point.
Your meme is illogical and stupid.

 

[cnm]

Which method provisions more valid normative values : independence of the individual , or dependence on the collective ?

Dependence on the collective has been a community norm for most of humanity's existence. It's contribution to community success demonstrates it is a valid moral.

 

[cnm]

It denies economic freedom, stifles economic growth, crushes productivity, retards innovation and technological advancement, and it is the antithesis of human nature.

An aeon of human collective tribal development notwithstanding.

Yeah, right.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Dependence on the collective has been a community norm for most of humanity's existence. It's contribution to community success demonstrates it is a valid moral.

Only as secondary to individual autonomy

When people CHOOSE to work together for a common goal it is fine. When it is forced it is a failure and socialism is always forced. It has to be forced.

We may well be social creatures but we are individuals first who put self interest above others.

That cannot be changed

 

[M14 Shooter]

Dependence on the collective has been a community norm for most of humanity's existence.

This, of course, does not necessitate the "community" owns the means of production and distribution of wealth - this "dependence on the collective" can exist in a perfectly capitalistic society.

 

[M14 Shooter]

An aeon of human collective tribal development notwithstanding.

Quantify this.

 

[norwegen]

Since the term "socialism" gets thrown around a lot by people who don't know the meaning of it, here's a definition:

Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

Now we can discuss what is bad about it.

It's theft. That's what's bad about it. Redistribution of wealth is theft.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's theft. That's what's bad about it. Redistribution of wealth is theft.

Worse.
It is involuntary servitude.

 

[GLASNOST]

Incorrect. You get imprisoned for stealing some. Earning it is the point.
Your meme is illogical and stupid.

Capitalism ensures there are not enough jobs or wealth to go around so lots of people HAVE to steal some. You don't understand that? Really, you don't get it? CAPITALISM.
C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-M Duh.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

What's dumbs and weakens us down to the least common denominator for 1K Alex?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Capitalism ensures there are not enough jobs or wealth to go around so lots of people HAVE to steal some. You don't understand that? Really, you don't get it? CAPITALISM.
C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-M Duh.

No it does not

your statement is false

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Complex Dynamics In Abdicating Independence Of Individuals To Collective Authority Of Bureaucracy "

* Pragmatic Given Plethora Of Contradictions And Hypocrisies *

Dependence on the collective has been a community norm for most of humanity's existence. It's contribution to community success demonstrates it is a valid moral.

Dependence on collective contributions to community success has demonstrated that some implementations include more all validity , whereas some implementations include less more all validity .

A basis of us republic and us republicanism is independence of the individual , albeit the methods of public and private policy to implement the objectives are not clearly described .

Within repugnican and demonrat parties are populists embracing democracy for its tyranny by collective majority , with platforms and policies hostile to independence of the individual .

The principles of non violence define violence as illegitimate aggression and that self defense against violence is legitimate aggression .

The principles of individualism define violence as illegitimate aggression against self ownership or self determination of an individual , where self ownership includes free roam , free association and progeny , and where self determination includes ownership of private property and exercise of willful intents through social civil contracts which are made valid through informed consent .

The equal protection of negative liberties among individuals is delimited by safety and security , where an individual may be a citizen , or an incorporate , or a state , or a federate , or a civil litigant .

 

[Orangecat]

Capitalism ensures there are not enough jobs or wealth to go around so lots of people HAVE to steal some. You don't understand that? Really, you don't get it? CAPITALISM.
C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-M Duh.

Your ignorance is astounding.