What fears will you lay all your freedoms aside for?

[Votto]

The democrat party has become the party of fear, as they use it to coerce people to willingly lay down any and all of their freedoms

So what will you lay down your freedoms for?

1. Climate change?

2. Covid management?

3. Something else?

 

[Oddball]

NOTA

 

[Otis Mayfield]

I've been reading "The Three Body Solution" about an alien race that attacks Earth.

It's really good.

But yeah, when humans face an existential threat like that, you're going to willingly give up some rights.

During any major war, really. There was food rationing during WWII and a lot of things you just couldn't buy.

Hawaii was under full martial law during WWII, curfews, military arrests, all of that.

 

[TheParser]

So what will you lay down your freedoms for?

Oh, I would gladly lay down my "freedoms" for personal security.

If I could be guaranteed that I would never, ever be the victim of any violent predator, that would be worth giving up all of my "freedoms."

 

[Oddball]

Oh, I would gladly lay down my "freedoms" for personal security.

If I could be guaranteed that I would never, ever be the victim of any violent predator, that would be worth giving up all of my "freedoms."

Such a guarantor would almost certainly be a violent predator themself.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Oh, I would gladly lay down my "freedoms" for personal security.

If I could be guaranteed that I would never, ever be the victim of any violent predator, that would be worth giving up all of my "freedoms."

Anyone who sacrifices freedom for security gets neither. It’s like negotiating with terrorists.

 

[Circe]

I've been reading "The Three Body Solution" about an alien race that attacks Earth.

It's really good.

But yeah, when humans face an existential threat like that, you're going to willingly give up some rights.

During any major war, really. There was food rationing during WWII and a lot of things you just couldn't buy.

Hawaii was under full martial law during WWII, curfews, military arrests, all of that.

I've seen that title, I'll put on a sample and try it, thanx.

I'd have said people don't give up rights "willingly" --- it's forced on us. Rationing being a good example.

Until Covid --- it's clear a lot of people LUUUVV giving up their rights for Covid and want to help force that on other people, too.

 

[Darkwind]

The democrat party has become the party of fear, as they use it to coerce people to willingly lay down any and all of their freedoms

So what will you lay down your freedoms for?

1. Climate change?

2. Covid management?

3. Something else?

The question is actually backward.

People willing to forgo freedoms are just sheep, but really not a problem to anyone but themselves.

The question is, Which freedoms are you willing to TAKE from your fellow citizens on the basis of your own personal fears.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I've seen that title, I'll put on a sample and try it, thanx.

I'd have said people don't give up rights "willingly" --- it's forced on us. Rationing being a good example.

Until Covid --- it's clear a lot of people LUUUVV giving up their rights for Covid and want to help force that on other people, too.

I think it’s more that they take their freedom for granted. They need to spend time in Cuba or Iran.

 

[sparky]

what metric describes 'freedom'?

~S~

 

[Votto]

I've been reading "The Three Body Solution" about an alien race that attacks Earth.

It's really good.

But yeah, when humans face an existential threat like that, you're going to willingly give up some rights.

During any major war, really. There was food rationing during WWII and a lot of things you just couldn't buy.

Hawaii was under full martial law during WWII, curfews, military arrests, all of that.

Is it any wonder then that American then became "at war" virtually every decade after WW2 without officially declaring such wars as official wars?

In fact, Abraham Lincoln saw this war type of tyrannical control in other places in the world throughout history


"The provision of the Constitution giving the war making power to Congress was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons: kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This our convention understood to be the most oppressive of all kingly oppressions, and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us."

Lincoln on the Mexican war to William H. Henderson, February 15, 1848

In fact, Trump was the first President in a long while not to start a "war", but you gave him the boot, didn't you.

 

[Votto]

The question is actually backward.

People willing to forgo freedoms are just sheep, but really not a problem to anyone but themselves.

The question is, Which freedoms are you willing to TAKE from your fellow citizens on the basis of your own personal fears.

Most people have no idea what is going on around them.

These people really believe that the democrats can control the weather, but not the supply chain or even inflation.

Hilarious.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

There's either a scary muslim hiding behind every corner, circa 2001-2004, must have plastic and duct tape, must allow govt to look at our emails, OR covid is coming out of the trees at night, must get injected so you'll be able to transmit the virus.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

There's either a scary muslim hiding behind every corner, circa 2001-2004, must have plastic and duct tape, must allow govt to look at our emails, OR covid is coming out of the trees at night, must get injected so you'll be able to transmit the virus.

There are scary Muslims around many corners as there was a Muslim sniper shooting up people here in DC in 2002 and anthrax being mailed to local residents at the same time.
Some threats are very real but you can’t let them (or their propagating) steal your freedom.

 

[Circe]

what metric describes 'freedom'?

~S~

Not having to do what other people tell you to?

 

[fncceo]

Hawaii was under full martial law during WWII, curfews, military arrests, all of that.

Hawaii wasn't an American state during World War II.

 

[sparky]

Not having to do what other people tell you to?

well, that's a start Circe

but are we more or less free would be my aim

how would i know?

~S~

 

[MinTrut]

The democrat party has become the party of fear, as they use it to coerce people to willingly lay down any and all of their freedoms

So what will you lay down your freedoms for?

1. Climate change?

2. Covid management?

3. Something else?

Every time Biden gropes a child, an angel gets its wings!

 

[MinTrut]

I've been reading "The Three Body Solution" about an alien race that attacks Earth.

It's really good.

But yeah, when humans face an existential threat like that, you're going to willingly give up some rights.

During any major war, really. There was food rationing during WWII and a lot of things you just couldn't buy.

Hawaii was under full martial law during WWII, curfews, military arrests, all of that.

Good points; Democrat rule is like that of the Nazis in WWII.

 

[Votto]

Good points; Democrat rule is like that of the Nazis in WWII.

Most don't like to acknowledge how cutting edge and Progressive the Nazi regime was.

Their eugenical crimes were, in fact, fueled by scientists in the US who were sold on eugenics and convinced that blacks were inferior eugenically. In fact, one of the books written by US scientists Hitler called his Bible as they wrote about eugenics. Hitler thought his actions logical because he followed the cutting edge of science of his day and all others were moral idiots who were superstitious and religious.

The Nazi regime were also obsessed with the environment and animal rights and the poor. Hitler ordered his army to plant trees, they were also the first Europeans to establish nature reserves and order the protection of hedgerows and other wildlife habitats. They were horrified at the thought of hydroelectric dams on the Rhine, and Hitler was a vegetarian because he thought eating the flesh of innocent animals was cruel. Herman Goring, Hitler's right hand man, said, "Unbearable torture and suffering in animal experiments and those who still think they can treat animals as inanimate property will be sent off to concentration camps!"

Hitler also declared, "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

And tell me who this sounds like in the DNC when it was actually Hitler who said it. "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseeming evaluation of a human being according to wealth and prosperity instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy their system under all conditions."

Hitler was a cutting edge socialist who believed that experts in private industry should keep their positions because they were the experts, so why have idiot bureaucrats try and run industry when they can't even run government effectively? Hitler said, "Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?" Hitler understood that so long as he had full control over industry, which he did, they could keep their positions and serve him. And this is how socialists of today do things as well.

And Hitler got off the gold standard long before the Progressives did in the US in the 1970's. Hitler said, "Gold is not necessary, I have no interest in gold. We will build a solid state, without an ounce of gold behind it"

Essentially, Hitler spent ungodly sums of money toward two things, the military and social programs. For you see, Hitler was worried of uprising during the war that occurred during WW 1. So he saw to it that their standard of living was kept well above those in the US, well until the very end of the war. And looking at the US today, that is where all their spending goes as well.

So there you have it. The Nazi regime showed Progressives they way as they all follow it, knowingly or unknowingly, they are all fans.