What are Putin's Options for Revenge that he has promised?

[alang1216]

No we are not all brainwashed some of us are capable of critical thought, it looks like you are not familiar with British and French Colonialism, as soon as WW2 was over they thought they could take up where they left off in their Empires, France was occupied by the Nazis for five years yet they inflicted the same crimes against the people of Vietnam and other places like Algeria until they were thrown out,why would the normal people who suffered Nazi occupation in France want it inflicted on others?

I never said they were saints and they certainly left messes that are still being cleaned up today. Notably in the Middle East and Africa. That said, it is clear Western Europe is more peaceful than it has EVER been. If that is the NWO, I'm all for it.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... France was occupied by the Nazis for five years yet they inflicted the same crimes against the people of Vietnam and other places like Algeria until they were thrown out

Thank you, Deadstick . These tossers have so much to learn yet they do all that they can to resist knowledge.

 

[BothWings]

The clown isn't asleep he is brainwashed, 75 years of peace,right! until they attacked Yugoslavia first time a European capital City was bombed for 78 days Belgrade since Hitlers Luftwaffe.

Brainwashed, likely. But also just plain ignorant across the board. The CIA has only been around for about 75 years and much of that hasn't been exactly peaceful. The said "CIA director" I mentioned was George H.W. Bush who made his New World Order speech on 9/11/1990, not even 35 years ago. This ******* guy is clueless! I'm not even going to bother answering such an ignorant dolt. It's not worth the time.

 

[Deadstick]

Thank you, Deadstick . These tossers have so much to learn yet they do all that they can to resist knowledge.

Probably too scared to learn in case they find what they don't want to know, the truth would be like being smacked in the face with a wet kipper.

 

[Deadstick]

I never said they were saints and they certainly left messes that are still being cleaned up today. Notably in the Middle East and Africa. That said, it is clear Western Europe is more peaceful than it has EVER been. If that is the NWO, I'm all for it.

So you missed all the terrorism? and wait for the blow back from Trumps stupidity we have a problem with illegals crossing the Channel from
France if they think it's been bad so far they haven't seen anything yet.

 

[GLASNOST]

Probably too scared to learn in case they find what they don't want to know ....

Yes, that's my conclusion as well.

 

[Deadstick]

Yes, that's my conclusion as well.

Well if they find out the facts and truth it shatters everything they have been brought up to believe is a lie and con, they can't face that so they carry on.

 

[GLASNOST]

Well if they find out the facts and truth it shatters everything they have been brought up to believe is a lie and con, they can't face that so they carry on.

You have just described brainwashing in a nutshell. Propaganda + censorship = brainwashing. There you have it. Just as with children of abusive parents ....... they defend the only thing they have experienced.

 

[Deadstick]

You have just described brainwashing in a nutshell. Propaganda + censorship = brainwashing. There you have it. Just as with children of abusive parents ....... they defend the only thing they have experienced.

Its like extreme Stockholm syndrome.

 

[Zavulon]

So USMB is banned in Russia but Aftershock.news isn't banned by US government? Please tell me again how personal freedom of speech in Russia is much wider than in the USA.

Russian government build fences (pretty low and avoidable) and US government cripple their citizens. That's the difference.

Кто сказал, что я не говорю по-русски? Не Google и не правительство США.

And who said you do?
Ok. Little test. Choose correct sentence (no google or other search services):
1) На московском вокзале стоит ларек с шавермой;
2) На Московском вокзале стоит ларек с шавермой;
3) На вокзале в Москве стоит ларек с шавермой;
4) В Москве на вокзале стоит ларек с шавермой.

Explain why.

 

[alang1216]

Russian government build fences (pretty low and avoidable) and US government cripple their citizens. That's the difference.

Funny, I don't feel crippled. I have many options but generally Americans don't see the value in learning other languages.

And who said you do?
Ok. Little test. Choose correct sentence (no google or other search services):
1) На московском вокзале стоит ларек с шавермой;
2) На Московском вокзале стоит ларек с шавермой;
3) На вокзале в Москве стоит ларек с шавермой;
4) В Москве на вокзале стоит ларек с шавермой.

Explain why.

Your English is not perfect but you are perfectly understandable and I suspect my Google translation was the same.

 

[GLASNOST]

Well if they find out the facts and truth it shatters everything they have been brought up to believe is a lie and con, they can't face that so they carry on.

You have just described brainwashing in a nutshell. Propaganda + censorship = brainwashing. There you have it. Just as with children of abusive parents ....... they defend the only thing they have experienced.

Its like extreme Stockholm syndrome.

Yes.

 

[Zavulon]

Funny, I don't feel crippled. I have many options but generally Americans don't see the value in learning other languages.

You know, a castrated animal doesn't see the value in having sex, too. It doesn't mean that castration doesn't cripple. Or that castration is not a way of controlling the animal. Who has more freedom - a gelding or a stallion?
That is exactly why the most important part in freedom of speech is the inner freedom. It is ability to think and watch the problem under different angles, and it is ability to declare that two plus two equals four. This freedom Americans lack. Shortly - more languages you can speak - more freedom of speech you have. And in this meaning - Russians have much more freedom of speech than Americans. It is not because Russian government loves freedom, definitely no. They just need a lot of smart, well educated and well motivated people. NATO countries outnumber us as seven to one, therefore we have no other option but outsmart them as ten to one.

Your English is not perfect but you are perfectly understandable and I suspect my Google translation was the same.

Not really in both cases. I hate to recognise it, but seems, Americans don't understand us (not only your humble servant, but even our best professional diplomats). We failed to deliver them even the most simple message "Don't go eastward. You do one more step and you are dead", and, therefore millions of Americans will die soon. I don't know what is wrong with our language and our explanations, but something is terribly wrong.

Talking about the Google translation... Let's do it.

Ok. Let's play. One of those sentences is correct, three others are wrong. Nuances are important, and even good AI can't get all of them.

 

[alang1216]

You know, a castrated animal doesn't see the value in having sex, too. It doesn't mean that castration doesn't cripple. Or that castration is not a way of controlling the animal. Who has more freedom - a gelding or a stallion?

Not a good analogy since I can learn Russian if I choose to. None of my body parts has been removed. Which is happier, the stallion that has a primal urge or the gelding that doesn't devote any energy to sex?

That is exactly why the most important part in freedom of speech is the inner freedom. It is ability to think and watch the problem under different angles, and it is ability to declare that two plus two equals four. This freedom Americans lack. Shortly - more languages you can speak - more freedom of speech you have. And in this meaning - Russians have much more freedom of speech than Americans. It is not because Russian government loves freedom, definitely no. They just need a lot of smart, well educated and well motivated people. NATO countries outnumber us as seven to one, therefore we have no other option but outsmart them as ten to one.

I'm guessing Russians devote more time to learning languages than I do. Is that the best use of their time?

Not really in both cases. I hate to recognise it, but seems, Americans don't understand us (not only your humble servant, but even our best professional diplomats). We failed to deliver them even the most simple message "Don't go eastward. You do one more step and you are dead", and, therefore millions of Americans will die soon. I don't know what is wrong with our language and our explanations, but something is terribly wrong.

I think we react just as you'd react if we said "Don't go west".

Talking about the Google translation... Let's do it.

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Ok. Let's play. One of those sentences is correct, three others are wrong. Nuances are important, and even good AI can't get all of them.

They all are proper English but then English is a very imprecise language. One reason we have so many lawyers.

 

[GLASNOST]

Talking about the Google translation... Let's do it.

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Ok. Let's play. One of those sentences is correct, three others are wrong. Nuances are important, and even good AI can't get all of them.

None is correct. The correct sentence would be:
In the Moscow rail station there is kiosk that serves shawarma.

 

[Zavulon]

Not a good analogy since I can learn Russian if I choose to.

No, you can't. If you were educated in a public American school you brain was unrepairably damaged. That's how your government controls you. One of the ways.

None of my body parts has been removed. Which is happier, the stallion that has a primal urge or the gelding that doesn't devote any energy to sex?

We were not talking about happiness, were we? We were talking about freedom. If you was intellectually castrated and taught to be cattle you may be pretty comfortable in this status.

I'm guessing Russians devote more time to learning languages than I do. Is that the best use of their time?

It depends on your goals. May be sincerely believe that the best use of your time is drinking beer, smoking weed and watching TV-shows. But the low intellectual and educational level of Americans is the national threat. You'll just die out pretty soon, if you don't change your ways.

I think we react just as you'd react if we said "Don't go west".

Actually, when you say about anti-Russian sanctions and decolonisation of Russia, we read it as : "Please, go west and kill us!"

They all are proper English but then English is a very imprecise language. One reason we have so many lawyers.

As I said, it was lost in translation (as an RNA joke).

 

[Zavulon]

None is correct. The correct sentence would be:
In the Moscow rail station there is kiosk that serves shawarma.

Thanks. But, as I said, it was lost in translation.

 

[Zavulon]

Grok correctly found the right sentence and almost got the joke. Lost the difference in local writing and pronunciation of the word "Shawarma" in Moscow (where it is шаурма) and Saint Petersburg (where it is шаверма), which makes the bulk of the joke.

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The Joke and Its Meaning:
The humor likely revolves around the following elements:
Confusion Over "Moskovsky Railway Station":
The "Moskovsky Railway Station" (Московский вокзал) is a specific, well-known train station in Saint Petersburg, Russia, not in Moscow. The name "Moskovsky" (meaning "of Moscow") can mislead people into thinking it’s in Moscow, which is a common mistake.

Sentences 3 and 4 ("At a station in Moscow" and "In Moscow, at a station") are funny because they reflect this mistake, placing the Moskovsky Railway Station in Moscow, which is factually absurd. It’s like saying "The New York Central Station is in Florida" — the error is humorous to those who know the real location.

Sentence 2 is correct because it uses the proper name "Moskovsky Railway Station," implying the one in Saint Petersburg. The humor comes from how easily people might pick the wrong sentences (3 or 4) due to the misleading name.
Capitalization Mix-Up:
Sentence 1 ("At the Moscow station") uses lowercase "московском," suggesting a generic "Moscow station" rather than the proper noun "Moskovsky Railway Station." This could be a subtle joke for Russian speakers who notice the capitalization error, as it’s a pedantic mistake that language enthusiasts might find amusing.

The humor lies in catching the "wrong" capitalization, which only those familiar with Russian grammar and the station’s name would spot.
Shawarma as a Cultural Reference:
Shawarma is a beloved street food in Russia, especially in Saint Petersburg, where it’s practically a cultural icon. Mentioning a shawarma stall at the Moskovsky Railway Station (a major hub in Saint Petersburg) is funny because it’s so relatable — it’s exactly the kind of thing you’d expect to find at a busy train station in Russia.

The joke is amplified by the idea that shawarma is so ubiquitous that it’s a given at a place like the Moskovsky Railway Station, making the statement almost comically obvious to locals.
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[alang1216]

No, you can't. If you were educated in a public American school you brain was unrepairably damaged. That's how your government controls you. One of the ways.

We were not talking about happiness, were we? We were talking about freedom. If you was intellectually castrated and taught to be cattle you may be pretty comfortable in this status.

Freedom is a "zero-sum game", like energy it can't be created or destroyed, only it's form can be changed.

It depends on your goals. May be sincerely believe that the best use of your time is drinking beer, smoking weed and watching TV-shows. But the low intellectual and educational level of Americans is the national threat. You'll just die out pretty soon, if you don't change your ways.

Do you mean like Czarist Russia or like the Soviet Union?

Actually, when you say about anti-Russian sanctions and decolonisation of Russia, we read it as : "Please, go west and kill us!"

Or those things are said because you went west into Ukraine and started killing.

As I said, it was lost in translation (as an RNA joke).

 

[Zavulon]

Ok. Do you insist, that you can study Russian?

Freedom is a "zero-sum game", like energy it can't be created or destroyed, only it's form can be changed.

If so, all your talks about freedom of speech in Russia and America are useless.

Do you mean like Czarist Russia or like the Soviet Union?

No. Those were rather moltings - painful, costly, but necessary renovation processes. I thought about something like collapse of Hittite Empire. You know - in short time all cities burned down, people killed, knowledge, language and culture lost, and the elusive number of survivors finished or assimilated soon after this.

Or those things are said because you went west into Ukraine and started killing.

Of course no. We went west and started defend ourselves because NATO came in Russia (and Ukraine is a part of Russia) and started to kill Russians.

Ok. Let's ask Grok to explain. Funny thing.
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The joke "I have an RNA joke but it might get lost in translation" is a play on words involving molecular biology and language.
In biology, RNA (ribonucleic acid) is critical for protein synthesis through a process called translation, where messenger RNA (mRNA) is read by ribosomes to produce proteins based on the genetic code from DNA. The term "translation" here refers to this biochemical process.
The joke’s punchline hinges on the double meaning of "translation." In everyday language, "lost in translation" means something was misunderstood or its meaning was lost when converting from one language to another. The humor comes from punning on "translation": the RNA joke was supposedly "lost" during the biological translation process (mRNA to protein), mimicking the idea of a linguistic miscommunication.
So, the joke cleverly combines the scientific term with the common phrase to suggest that the RNA-related humor didn’t make it through the "translation" process, either biologically or linguistically.
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