Tactical ignorance personified

[Crepitus]

The reality of the Iran war. Remebemr, there was no war before tRump. The strait was open, our fuel prices were low, our defensive stockpiles were high.

Now everything has changed.

Let's look at "project freedom", a weak attempt a rebranding an offensive naval engagement as a humanitarian operation. They managed to move 2 ship yesterday. Two. That took maybe a billion dollars worth of budget because they were only able to do it under a financially unsustainable umbrella of military support.

Then they proclaimed "the strait is open!"

It's not.

The Iranians have the terrain/tactical advantage here. It's called "asymmetric warfare" and the pentagon under Hegseth seems to have forgotten it exists. The coastline they have to traverse is a 600 mile mountain fortress of tunnels , secluded coves, and stark ravines. It's utterly impossible to clean out the whole thing. Iran is not fighting ship to ship naval engagements in the style of WWII. They don't have do destroy everything in the strait, all they have to do is tag my one freighter a week and the shipping companies will continue to take other routs for cargo and leave the oil sitting there.

Hardware.

Yes, we has it. We have a massive advantage in hardware. Hardware doesn't win wars, people do, but lets talk about it anyway. Specifically the cost. You wanna talk about asymmetry? We are shooting down $20,000.oo drones with $4,300,000.00 missiles. Missiles we have a limited supply of. This is a war of financial attrition we cannot win. Then there's the fact that we are overextended. These ship require maintenance. Many are long overdue for it an getting worse... That's why we are seeing things like laundry room fires that can disable an aircraft carrier and ships with no working plumbing or short on food/fuel.

And our high tech weapons. We are depleting them at unheard of rates. approximately 50% of our anti missile capability is gone and will take years to replace.

That, in addition to exhausted troops and broken equipment leaves us vulnerable to our real enemies, Russia and China. They are probably cackling with anticipation.

Now lets look at the political situation.

The current administration ran on "no new wars". They have alienated a significant portion of their base with this. The nation as a group is nearly universally against this war. That's a massive at-home moral problem. Everyone can see we just spent beillion of dollars to accomplish little more than send our gas prices through the roof.

Abroad it's even worse. We have alienated almost every ally we ever had. tRump is begging for help to reopen the strait, but most are saying "you started this, you need to finish it.

At home this will likely be redressed by the midterms and the next presidential election.

Abroad this may never be repaired.

This whole thing is a massive boondoggle.

 

[1srelluc]

Damn OP, you are one sad little man.

I'd hate to think that I would ever spew such nonsense.

 

[MarcATL]

America is learning the consequences of electing a WEI Administration.

White, entitled, incompetent actors never work out well for the country.

The quicker the midterms get here the better off we will be.

 

[Crepitus]

Damn OP, you are one sad little man.

I'd hate to think that I would ever spew such nonsense.

Which part of that is nonsense? Gimme a list.

 

[Darkwind]

The reality of the Iran war. Remebemr, there was no war before tRump. The strait was open, our fuel prices were low, our defensive stockpiles were high.

Now everything has changed.

Let's look at "project freedom", a weak attempt a rebranding an offensive naval engagement as a humanitarian operation. They managed to move 2 ship yesterday. Two. That took maybe a billion dollars worth of budget because they were only able to do it under a financially unsustainable umbrella of military support.

Then they proclaimed "the strait is open!"

It's not.

The Iranians have the terrain/tactical advantage here. It's called "asymmetric warfare" and the pentagon under Hegseth seems to have forgotten it exists. The coastline they have to traverse is a 600 mile mountain fortress of tunnels , secluded coves, and stark ravines. It's utterly impossible to clean out the whole thing. Iran is not fighting ship to ship naval engagements in the style of WWII. They don't have do destroy everything in the strait, all they have to do is tag my one freighter a week and the shipping companies will continue to take other routs for cargo and leave the oil sitting there.

Hardware.

Yes, we has it. We have a massive advantage in hardware. Hardware doesn't win wars, people do, but lets talk about it anyway. Specifically the cost. You wanna talk about asymmetry? We are shooting down $20,000.oo drones with $4,300,000.00 missiles. Missiles we have a limited supply of. This is a war of financial attrition we cannot win. Then there's the fact that we are overextended. These ship require maintenance. Many are long overdue for it an getting worse... That's why we are seeing things like laundry room fires that can disable an aircraft carrier and ships with no working plumbing or short on food/fuel.

And our high tech weapons. We are depleting them at unheard of rates. approximately 50% of our anti missile capability is gone and will take years to replace.

That, in addition to exhausted troops and broken equipment leaves us vulnerable to our real enemies, Russia and China. They are probably cackling with anticipation.

Now lets look at the political situation.

The current administration ran on "no new wars". They have alienated a significant portion of their base with this. The nation as a group is nearly universally against this war. That's a massive at-home moral problem. Everyone can see we just spent beillion of dollars to accomplish little more than send our gas prices through the roof.

Abroad it's even worse. We have alienated almost every ally we ever had. tRump is begging for help to reopen the strait, but most are saying "you started this, you need to finish it.

At home this will likely be redressed by the midterms and the next presidential election.

Abroad this may never be repaired.

This whole thing is a massive boondoggle.

I always crack up at how stupid you are but manage to claim you have better insight into warfare.

You're a pathetic little troll

 

[John09]

They picked a retired 3-star Marine named Paul Van Riper to play the enemy.

Van Riper, who spent 41 years in uniform from Vietnam to Desert Storm, took one look at the scenario and did what any self-respecting adversary would do. He ignored it completely. Instead of radios, he used motorcycle couriers. Attack orders were hidden in the daily call to prayer. Swarms of explosive-laden speedboats were sent through the Strait of Hormuz.

And in less than 10 minutes, he sank 16 US warships. An aircraft carrier, 10 cruisers, and 5 amphibious ships. Over 20,000 simulated American casualties. The equivalent of Pearl Harbor, executed with small boats and cruise missiles by a retired Marine with a phone and a bad attitude.

So the Pentagon did what any self-respecting institution does when reality disagreed with the plan.

The ships were un-sank. Van Riper’s forces had to turn on their anti-aircraft radar so it could be easily targeted and destroyed. They even told him he wasn’t allowed to shoot down the incoming 82nd Airborne. The whole rest of the exercise was scripted to guarantee an American victory...

So much winning

Please make it stop, Mr. President

no01.substack.com

Here's another link. And there's lots more for those who care enough to do so.


In 2002, the U.S. military tapped Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper to lead the opposing forces in the most expensive and expansive military exercise in history up until that point. He was put in command of an inferior Middle Eastern-inspired military force—essentially a fictional Iran—and his mission was to go against the full might of the American armed forces.

In the first two days, he sank an entire carrier battle group. In fact, he had achieved such great success so fast that it prompted the U.S. military brass to cry foul.

A Marine Corps general led a fictional Iran against the US military—and won

Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper led a fictional Iran in a massive military exercise. In the first two days, he sank an entire carrier battle group.

www.wearethemighty.com

 

[Crepitus]

I always crack up at how stupid you are but manage to claim you have better insight into warfare.

You're a pathetic little troll

All of you folks are taking the time to tell me how bad I am without bothering to critique the post.

Please, point out the mistakes you think I made.

(I'm betting there aren't any, you just don't like my analysis.)

 

[frigidweirdo]

The reality of the Iran war. Remebemr, there was no war before tRump. The strait was open, our fuel prices were low, our defensive stockpiles were high.

Now everything has changed.

Let's look at "project freedom", a weak attempt a rebranding an offensive naval engagement as a humanitarian operation. They managed to move 2 ship yesterday. Two. That took maybe a billion dollars worth of budget because they were only able to do it under a financially unsustainable umbrella of military support.

Then they proclaimed "the strait is open!"

It's not.

The Iranians have the terrain/tactical advantage here. It's called "asymmetric warfare" and the pentagon under Hegseth seems to have forgotten it exists. The coastline they have to traverse is a 600 mile mountain fortress of tunnels , secluded coves, and stark ravines. It's utterly impossible to clean out the whole thing. Iran is not fighting ship to ship naval engagements in the style of WWII. They don't have do destroy everything in the strait, all they have to do is tag my one freighter a week and the shipping companies will continue to take other routs for cargo and leave the oil sitting there.

Hardware.

Yes, we has it. We have a massive advantage in hardware. Hardware doesn't win wars, people do, but lets talk about it anyway. Specifically the cost. You wanna talk about asymmetry? We are shooting down $20,000.oo drones with $4,300,000.00 missiles. Missiles we have a limited supply of. This is a war of financial attrition we cannot win. Then there's the fact that we are overextended. These ship require maintenance. Many are long overdue for it an getting worse... That's why we are seeing things like laundry room fires that can disable an aircraft carrier and ships with no working plumbing or short on food/fuel.

And our high tech weapons. We are depleting them at unheard of rates. approximately 50% of our anti missile capability is gone and will take years to replace.

That, in addition to exhausted troops and broken equipment leaves us vulnerable to our real enemies, Russia and China. They are probably cackling with anticipation.

Now lets look at the political situation.

The current administration ran on "no new wars". They have alienated a significant portion of their base with this. The nation as a group is nearly universally against this war. That's a massive at-home moral problem. Everyone can see we just spent beillion of dollars to accomplish little more than send our gas prices through the roof.

Abroad it's even worse. We have alienated almost every ally we ever had. tRump is begging for help to reopen the strait, but most are saying "you started this, you need to finish it.

At home this will likely be redressed by the midterms and the next presidential election.

Abroad this may never be repaired.

This whole thing is a massive boondoggle.

Trump believed himself a God after taking out Maduro. He believed he'd invaded a country and instigated regime change, which of course he hadn't. But he believed it.

So he of course believed Iran would be easy too.

 

[Rawley]

They picked a retired 3-star Marine named Paul Van Riper to play the enemy.

Van Riper, who spent 41 years in uniform from Vietnam to Desert Storm, took one look at the scenario and did what any self-respecting adversary would do. He ignored it completely. Instead of radios, he used motorcycle couriers. Attack orders were hidden in the daily call to prayer. Swarms of explosive-laden speedboats were sent through the Strait of Hormuz.

And in less than 10 minutes, he sank 16 US warships. An aircraft carrier, 10 cruisers, and 5 amphibious ships. Over 20,000 simulated American casualties. The equivalent of Pearl Harbor, executed with small boats and cruise missiles by a retired Marine with a phone and a bad attitude.

So the Pentagon did what any self-respecting institution does when reality disagreed with the plan.

The ships were un-sank. Van Riper’s forces had to turn on their anti-aircraft radar so it could be easily targeted and destroyed. They even told him he wasn’t allowed to shoot down the incoming 82nd Airborne. The whole rest of the exercise was scripted to guarantee an American victory...

So much winning

Please make it stop, Mr. President

no01.substack.com

Here's another link. And there's lots more for those who care enough to do so.


In 2002, the U.S. military tapped Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper to lead the opposing forces in the most expensive and expansive military exercise in history up until that point. He was put in command of an inferior Middle Eastern-inspired military force—essentially a fictional Iran—and his mission was to go against the full might of the American armed forces.

In the first two days, he sank an entire carrier battle group. In fact, he had achieved such great success so fast that it prompted the U.S. military brass to cry foul.

A Marine Corps general led a fictional Iran against the US military—and won

Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper led a fictional Iran in a massive military exercise. In the first two days, he sank an entire carrier battle group.

www.wearethemighty.com

Jonboi pokes his head out. LOL

 

[Rawley]

The reality of the Iran war. Remebemr, there was no war before tRump. The strait was open, our fuel prices were low, our defensive stockpiles were high.

Now everything has changed.

Let's look at "project freedom", a weak attempt a rebranding an offensive naval engagement as a humanitarian operation. They managed to move 2 ship yesterday. Two. That took maybe a billion dollars worth of budget because they were only able to do it under a financially unsustainable umbrella of military support.

Then they proclaimed "the strait is open!"

It's not.

The Iranians have the terrain/tactical advantage here. It's called "asymmetric warfare" and the pentagon under Hegseth seems to have forgotten it exists. The coastline they have to traverse is a 600 mile mountain fortress of tunnels , secluded coves, and stark ravines. It's utterly impossible to clean out the whole thing. Iran is not fighting ship to ship naval engagements in the style of WWII. They don't have do destroy everything in the strait, all they have to do is tag my one freighter a week and the shipping companies will continue to take other routs for cargo and leave the oil sitting there.

Hardware.

Yes, we has it. We have a massive advantage in hardware. Hardware doesn't win wars, people do, but lets talk about it anyway. Specifically the cost. You wanna talk about asymmetry? We are shooting down $20,000.oo drones with $4,300,000.00 missiles. Missiles we have a limited supply of. This is a war of financial attrition we cannot win. Then there's the fact that we are overextended. These ship require maintenance. Many are long overdue for it an getting worse... That's why we are seeing things like laundry room fires that can disable an aircraft carrier and ships with no working plumbing or short on food/fuel.

And our high tech weapons. We are depleting them at unheard of rates. approximately 50% of our anti missile capability is gone and will take years to replace.

That, in addition to exhausted troops and broken equipment leaves us vulnerable to our real enemies, Russia and China. They are probably cackling with anticipation.

Now lets look at the political situation.

The current administration ran on "no new wars". They have alienated a significant portion of their base with this. The nation as a group is nearly universally against this war. That's a massive at-home moral problem. Everyone can see we just spent beillion of dollars to accomplish little more than send our gas prices through the roof.

Abroad it's even worse. We have alienated almost every ally we ever had. tRump is begging for help to reopen the strait, but most are saying "you started this, you need to finish it.

At home this will likely be redressed by the midterms and the next presidential election.

Abroad this may never be repaired.

This whole thing is a massive boondoggle.

Ashamed to even acknowledge where you copied this nonsense from?

 

[Crepitus]

Ashamed to even acknowledge where you copied this nonsense from?

I didn't. This is my own analysis of the situation.

 

[Leo123]

The reality of the Iran war. Remebemr, there was no war before tRump. The strait was open, our fuel prices were low, our defensive stockpiles were high.

Now everything has changed.

Let's look at "project freedom", a weak attempt a rebranding an offensive naval engagement as a humanitarian operation. They managed to move 2 ship yesterday. Two. That took maybe a billion dollars worth of budget because they were only able to do it under a financially unsustainable umbrella of military support.

Then they proclaimed "the strait is open!"

It's not.

The Iranians have the terrain/tactical advantage here. It's called "asymmetric warfare" and the pentagon under Hegseth seems to have forgotten it exists. The coastline they have to traverse is a 600 mile mountain fortress of tunnels , secluded coves, and stark ravines. It's utterly impossible to clean out the whole thing. Iran is not fighting ship to ship naval engagements in the style of WWII. They don't have do destroy everything in the strait, all they have to do is tag my one freighter a week and the shipping companies will continue to take other routs for cargo and leave the oil sitting there.

Hardware.

Yes, we has it. We have a massive advantage in hardware. Hardware doesn't win wars, people do, but lets talk about it anyway. Specifically the cost. You wanna talk about asymmetry? We are shooting down $20,000.oo drones with $4,300,000.00 missiles. Missiles we have a limited supply of. This is a war of financial attrition we cannot win. Then there's the fact that we are overextended. These ship require maintenance. Many are long overdue for it an getting worse... That's why we are seeing things like laundry room fires that can disable an aircraft carrier and ships with no working plumbing or short on food/fuel.

And our high tech weapons. We are depleting them at unheard of rates. approximately 50% of our anti missile capability is gone and will take years to replace.

That, in addition to exhausted troops and broken equipment leaves us vulnerable to our real enemies, Russia and China. They are probably cackling with anticipation.

Now lets look at the political situation.

The current administration ran on "no new wars". They have alienated a significant portion of their base with this. The nation as a group is nearly universally against this war. That's a massive at-home moral problem. Everyone can see we just spent beillion of dollars to accomplish little more than send our gas prices through the roof.

Abroad it's even worse. We have alienated almost every ally we ever had. tRump is begging for help to reopen the strait, but most are saying "you started this, you need to finish it.

At home this will likely be redressed by the midterms and the next presidential election.

Abroad this may never be repaired.

This whole thing is a massive boondoggle.

The Iranian Mullahs have been at war with the U.S. since 1979, you loon.

 

[Crepitus]

The Iranian Mullahs have been at war with the U.S. since 1979, you loon.

 

[Rawley]

I didn't. This is my own analysis of the situation.

Brave to admit that you made up 100% of the "facts" in your analysis. Kudos

 

[jacksonlamb]

I always crack up at how stupid you are but manage to claim you have better insight into warfare.

You're a pathetic little troll

Another White Entitled Incompetent actor

 

[Leo123]

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Loony Creepy can't post a rebuttal so, a silly GIF is his sanctuary.

 

[Crepitus]

Brave to admit that you made up 100% of the "facts" in your analysis. Kudos

And where did I do that?

Please point out any inconsistencies you find.

 

[Crepitus]

Loony Creepy can't post a rebuttal so, a silly GIF is his sanctuary.

I don't need a rebuttal. You haven't addressed my post at all.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The reality of the Iran war. Remebemr, there was no war before tRump. The strait was open, our fuel prices were low, our defensive stockpiles were high.

And Iran was not an imminent threat to the US or our allies.

 

[Leo123]

I don't need a rebuttal. You haven't addressed my post at all.

No, you said there was no war before Trump, I schooled you that Iran has been at war with US since 1979 and has constantly declared 'death to America' over and over again. You're just too stupid to comprehend.

Since 1979, Iran took U.S. hostages, supported proxy terrorists on U.S. forces and interests. They labeled the U.S. as "The Great Satan," and pursued asymmetric warfare.

They seized a U.S. embassy in Tehran and took 66 American hostages.

Eight American serviceman perished in a failed U.S. rescue attempt.

In 1983 Iran bombed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut and killed 63 Americans, there was the truck bombing in Beirut of a U.S. Marine barracks where 241 Marines were killed.

Hostage taking in Lebanon where Americans were tortured and killed.

Iran attacked U.S. interests in Kuwait, attacked shipping and had naval clashes in the Persian Gulf during the Iran-Iraq war.

1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia where 19 U.S. airmen were killed by Iran-backed Hezbollah.

Iran advanced its nuclear programs in 2010-2020s while attacking tankers in the Gulf. They support proxies for attacking U.S. shipping.

U.S. responses over the years have been sanctions, diplomatic isolation and strikes on proxies.

Oh yes, little, GIFFY-LOONY boy Iran has been at war with US all that time, we had weak leadership that sought to 'play nice' with sanctions and even sending them a plane full of their once sanctioned money. (Obama). All of that did exactly nothing and now they were getting nuclear weapons and were developing missiles to reach US. Eminent? You're damn right the threat was eminent and had been for some time but only now do we have a leader not cowering and standing up to the threat.
What do you want GIFFY-LOONY? You want US to stand down and just wait for the next attack Iran decides to pull? It's really amazing fools like you exist.