Well, Conservatives... is it Romney?

[William Joyce]

Paul's my guy, but neither he nor Huckabee will get the nomination. It's between McCain and Romney. McCain is legendarily bad on the issues. Romney I'm not really thrilled about, but he at least seems somewhat respectful of conservative ideas, or... ready to stand up for them, even if it's, ah, new territory for him. McCain is just a liberal asshole, plain and simple. I'm inclined to agree with Rush on this: a McCain nomination is really the end of the GOP as a conservative party. It would then become (if it has not already) just a "not Democrat" party, which ain't worth getting excited about.

 

[midcan5]

Well then there are lots of candidates out there. So will this, could this be the greatest irony of USMB, William voting for Obama.

 

[CharlestonChad]

Well then there are lots of candidates out there. So will this, could this be the greatest irony of USMB, William voting for Obama.

I might come down to a Mormon vs. a Black guy, which means WJ will likely be moving to SouthAfrica as a refugee of tolerance.

 

[Ninja]

If McCain gets the nomination I'll probably vote for Ron Paul in November. Next Tuesday I'll be casting a vote for Romney.

At least Rooty's gone though

 

[Shogun]

I wonder if the exodus from the left and the right to RP if the nominees are Mccain and Clinton will, miracle of miracles, get RP elected?

 

[Bern80]

See as how neither of them are conservatives, it's pretty tough.

 

[james4president]

I like Mitt. I think he would be a good candidate. He doesn't frighten me like McCain...

 

[Paulie]

I wonder if the exodus from the left and the right to RP if the nominees are Mccain and Clinton will, miracle of miracles, get RP elected?

Haha now you're starting to realize.

The longer this race goes, the more people are going to start disliking what they have to choose from.

RP's sitting back, letting the others spend their campaigns dry, and sling mud until the voters are finally fed up.

RP will be there as the "other" choice.

It ain't over yet folks. Even the rank and file republicans are starting to wake up. I love it.

 

[Avatar4321]

Haha now you're starting to realize.

The longer this race goes, the more people are going to start disliking what they have to choose from.

RP's sitting back, letting the others spend their campaigns dry, and sling mud until the voters are finally fed up.

RP will be there as the "other" choice.

It ain't over yet folks. Even the rank and file republicans are starting to wake up. I love it.

its definitely not over, for McCain and Romney. But its over for Paul. Look the guy has no chance. I am not saying that to be mean. its just reality.

 

[Steerpike]

I wonder if the exodus from the left and the right to RP if the nominees are Mccain and Clinton will, miracle of miracles, get RP elected?

No, because there aren't enough to them. Most people will still remain party-loyal sheep. Their party could nominate a chimpanzee and they'd vote for it.

 

[jillian]

its definitely not over, for McCain and Romney. But its over for Paul. Look the guy has no chance. I am not saying that to be mean. its just reality.

They don't like reality. Most zealots don't. But in a way one has to admire their tenacity.

 

[Avatar4321]

They don't like reality. Most zealots don't. But in a way one has to admire their tenacity.

That's because they lose hope. The thing is there is no reason to lose hope simply because the candidate of our choice doesn't win. Yeah we may be completely screwed with the President, but we can still support members for Congress to check them. We can support local leaders building up candidates who we are close to idealogically creating better candidates for national leaders.

We can also work hard, we can build business, we can build charities. we can serve, we can give. The President might be someone we dont like, but the power of this nation is not with the President, it's with the people. and as long as the people accept that responsibility we will continue to prosper no matter who is in charge.

 

[mattskramer]

We don’t need a right-wing conservative. I doubt that such a person could win the presidency anyway. I like McCain. I like the fact that he seems to get away with crossing party lines and gets things done.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_14

We need moderation and compromise.

 

[jillian]

That's because they lose hope. The thing is there is no reason to lose hope simply because the candidate of our choice doesn't win. Yeah we may be completely screwed with the President, but we can still support members for Congress to check them. We can support local leaders building up candidates who we are close to idealogically creating better candidates for national leaders.

We can also work hard, we can build business, we can build charities. we can serve, we can give. The President might be someone we dont like, but the power of this nation is not with the President, it's with the people. and as long as the people accept that responsibility we will continue to prosper no matter who is in charge.

Well, we can certainly do what we can. But there are things over which we have no control when our guy loses. For example, my stomach turned every time a Supeme Court justice resigned over the last 6 years because I knew that there was nothing the dems could really do to stop a nomination. I knew that there was nothing they could do about recess appointments (except finally do what they did this past Christmas and stay in session). So, yes, on a personal level, we can always pursue the things we believe in, but when it comes to public agenda, it flows from the top.

 

[Shogun]

No, because there aren't enough to them. Most people will still remain party-loyal sheep. Their party could nominate a chimpanzee and they'd vote for it.

Yet, it's the exact same choice that long-shot thirds have offered since perot in 92. Many blame Clinton's election on a fractured republican voting bloc while the same could be said about Nader in 00 and 04. I appreciate that RP pulls from the left and the right but, be honest, would you put your money on a horse like that?

 

[Ninja]

I wonder if the exodus from the left and the right to RP if the nominees are Mccain and Clinton will, miracle of miracles, get RP elected?

Sounds good. Bye-bye BATFE

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Paul's my guy, but neither he nor Huckabee will get the nomination. It's between McCain and Romney. McCain is legendarily bad on the issues. Romney I'm not really thrilled about, but he at least seems somewhat respectful of conservative ideas, or... ready to stand up for them, even if it's, ah, new territory for him. McCain is just a liberal asshole, plain and simple. I'm inclined to agree with Rush on this: a McCain nomination is really the end of the GOP as a conservative party. It would then become (if it has not already) just a "not Democrat" party, which ain't worth getting excited about.

McCain is a foreign policy conservative
Romney is an economic conservative
Huckabee is a social conservative

Why is it we can't elect someone with all 3 conservative qualities?

Of the three Romney seems to come the closest...but he's unpredictable...as is McPain who already has a proven track record of being too far left. Ron Paul is looking better all the time...if McPain is nominated I might just vote for RP in protest.

 

[Toro]

Its an interesting choice, isn't it? One who isn't a conservative and one who pretends to be.

 

[Helios]

its definitely not over, for McCain and Romney. But its over for Paul. Look the guy has no chance. I am not saying that to be mean. its just reality.

Ha. You live in a glass bubble, not to be mean or anything. It's just reality. Ron Paul is absolutely electable, unless of course the mainstream media continues to ruin his reputation completely by ignoring his victories and simple terming him a no-chancer. This is how the election process works. Everyone watches the news, the news tell you what to do, you damn well better do it. Wouldn't want to actually THINK for yourself about what each candidate means for this country. That would be too much work.

 

[ronpaul2008]

I agree, can you imagine if the race is McCain vs Obama or Hillary? The socialists vs the democrats! Conservatives would need to make a 3rd party. What could a conservative possibly like about McCain? That he'll wage more wars? This has been a disaster for the republican party. McCain is against tax cuts. He is for illegal immigration. He knows nothing about economics. McCain is known for his partnerships with democrats like Ted Kennedy and Russ Feingold. He is called a 'maverick' because he's a RINO. The worst thing about McCain is he will lose. He is another Bob Dole. Can you imagine Obama vs McCain? 95% of woman will vote for Obama if this is the case. Romney will be able to garner the female vote, woman are not attracted to an old dinasaur like McCain.