Is Trump a Putin Puppet/FSB 'Useful Idiot'?

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Rumpole

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I should think so, given the following facts:

Trump campaign had over 140 contacts with Russia during his campaign

Trump has repeatedly praised Putin

Trump hired Manafort to run his campaign

Trump suggested Russia can keep Crimea

Trump aides softened GOP platform on Ukraine

Trump made light of Russian hacking

Trump capitalized on Russian meddling to win

Trump denied that Russia interfered in 2016

Trump transition undermined Russian sanctions

Trump was open to lifting Russian sanctions

Trump refused to say Putin is a killer

Trump mulled returning spy bases to Russia

Trump gave Russia classified intelligence

Trump criticized and alienated NATO allies

Trump was reluctant to sign Russian sanctions

Trump proposed a cyber unit with Russia

Trump thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats

Trump eased sanctions on Deripaska

Trump congratulated Putin on his sham election

Trump balked at sanctions for Skripal poisoning

Trump nixed US statement about Russian war

Trump praised pro-Russian leaders in Europe

Trump didn’t publicly condemn Russian attack

Trump defended Soviet invasion of Afghanistan

Trump’s Syria withdrawal gave Putin a boost

Trump repeated Kremlin talking points on ISIS

Trump spread Russian myths about Ukraine

Trump temporarily froze US aid for Ukraine

Trump smeared US ambassador to Ukraine

Trump considered visiting Putin on Russian soil

Trump gave Putin a PR victory on Covid-19

Trump invited Russia to 2020 G7 summit

Trump directed CIA to share intel with Russia

Trump sides with Putin

Russian parliament celebrated when Trump won.
 
I should think so, given the following facts:

Trump campaign had over 140 contacts with Russia during his campaign

Trump has repeatedly praised Putin

Trump hired Manafort to run his campaign

Trump suggested Russia can keep Crimea

Trump aides softened GOP platform on Ukraine

Trump made light of Russian hacking

Trump capitalized on Russian meddling to win

Trump denied that Russia interfered in 2016

Trump transition undermined Russian sanctions

Trump was open to lifting Russian sanctions

Trump refused to say Putin is a killer

Trump mulled returning spy bases to Russia

Trump gave Russia classified intelligence

Trump criticized and alienated NATO allies

Trump was reluctant to sign Russian sanctions

Trump proposed a cyber unit with Russia

Trump thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats

Trump eased sanctions on Deripaska

Trump congratulated Putin on his sham election

Trump balked at sanctions for Skripal poisoning

Trump nixed US statement about Russian war

Trump praised pro-Russian leaders in Europe

Trump didn’t publicly condemn Russian attack

Trump defended Soviet invasion of Afghanistan

Trump’s Syria withdrawal gave Putin a boost

Trump repeated Kremlin talking points on ISIS

Trump spread Russian myths about Ukraine

Trump temporarily froze US aid for Ukraine

Trump smeared US ambassador to Ukraine

Trump considered visiting Putin on Russian soil

Trump gave Putin a PR victory on Covid-19

Trump invited Russia to 2020 G7 summit

Trump directed CIA to share intel with Russia

Trump sides with Putin

Russian parliament celebrated when Trump won.
that, mr rumpole, is a comprehensive wrap up of the russia situation.

i'm sure we are to continue to hear otherwise,
 
Too silly to sensibly respond to, OP .

But even if the assertion had any merit, a sane response would be,
So What !!


Do you think Russians are going to sail to your shores to invade ?
Hopefully you also realise the idea is childish but want to provoke useful or relevant discussion .
Good luck with that
 
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I should think so, given the following facts:

Trump campaign had over 140 contacts with Russia during his campaign

Trump has repeatedly praised Putin

Trump hired Manafort to run his campaign

Trump suggested Russia can keep Crimea

Trump aides softened GOP platform on Ukraine

Trump made light of Russian hacking

Trump capitalized on Russian meddling to win

Trump denied that Russia interfered in 2016

Trump transition undermined Russian sanctions

Trump was open to lifting Russian sanctions

Trump refused to say Putin is a killer

Trump mulled returning spy bases to Russia

Trump gave Russia classified intelligence

Trump criticized and alienated NATO allies

Trump was reluctant to sign Russian sanctions

Trump proposed a cyber unit with Russia

Trump thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats

Trump eased sanctions on Deripaska

Trump congratulated Putin on his sham election

Trump balked at sanctions for Skripal poisoning

Trump nixed US statement about Russian war

Trump praised pro-Russian leaders in Europe

Trump didn’t publicly condemn Russian attack

Trump defended Soviet invasion of Afghanistan

Trump’s Syria withdrawal gave Putin a boost

Trump repeated Kremlin talking points on ISIS

Trump spread Russian myths about Ukraine

Trump temporarily froze US aid for Ukraine

Trump smeared US ambassador to Ukraine

Trump considered visiting Putin on Russian soil

Trump gave Putin a PR victory on Covid-19

Trump invited Russia to 2020 G7 summit

Trump directed CIA to share intel with Russia

Trump sides with Putin

Russian parliament celebrated when Trump won.



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From 1985:
Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all! According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, (2 Russian words, активные something, I couldn’t catch it) in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, the economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist / Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country up to the verge of crisis. You can see them in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have a period of so called normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized!” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these smucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and a paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a Big Brother government in Washington D.C. With benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not.
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I should think so, given the following facts:

Trump campaign had over 140 contacts with Russia during his campaign

Trump has repeatedly praised Putin

Trump hired Manafort to run his campaign

Trump suggested Russia can keep Crimea

Trump aides softened GOP platform on Ukraine

Trump made light of Russian hacking

Trump capitalized on Russian meddling to win

Trump denied that Russia interfered in 2016

Trump transition undermined Russian sanctions

Trump was open to lifting Russian sanctions

Trump refused to say Putin is a killer

Trump mulled returning spy bases to Russia

Trump gave Russia classified intelligence

Trump criticized and alienated NATO allies

Trump was reluctant to sign Russian sanctions

Trump proposed a cyber unit with Russia

Trump thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats

Trump eased sanctions on Deripaska

Trump congratulated Putin on his sham election

Trump balked at sanctions for Skripal poisoning

Trump nixed US statement about Russian war

Trump praised pro-Russian leaders in Europe

Trump didn’t publicly condemn Russian attack

Trump defended Soviet invasion of Afghanistan

Trump’s Syria withdrawal gave Putin a boost

Trump repeated Kremlin talking points on ISIS

Trump spread Russian myths about Ukraine

Trump temporarily froze US aid for Ukraine

Trump smeared US ambassador to Ukraine

Trump considered visiting Putin on Russian soil

Trump gave Putin a PR victory on Covid-19

Trump invited Russia to 2020 G7 summit

Trump directed CIA to share intel with Russia

Trump sides with Putin

Russian parliament celebrated when Trump won.
Yes, of course. That's why Putin waited until Biden took office to start moving troops toward Ukraine's border.

Most of your points are either false or distorted, and nearly all of them come from stridently anti-Trump news outlets.
 
Biden's open borders let 50,000 Russians and 100,000 Chinese into the US.

There is no comparison. Biden is the TRAITOR and sellout to BOTH RUSSIA AND CHINA.
 
I should think so, given the following facts:

Trump campaign had over 140 contacts with Russia during his campaign

Trump has repeatedly praised Putin

Trump hired Manafort to run his campaign

Trump suggested Russia can keep Crimea

Trump aides softened GOP platform on Ukraine

Trump made light of Russian hacking

Trump capitalized on Russian meddling to win

Trump denied that Russia interfered in 2016

Trump transition undermined Russian sanctions

Trump was open to lifting Russian sanctions

Trump refused to say Putin is a killer

Trump mulled returning spy bases to Russia

Trump gave Russia classified intelligence

Trump criticized and alienated NATO allies

Trump was reluctant to sign Russian sanctions

Trump proposed a cyber unit with Russia

Trump thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats

Trump eased sanctions on Deripaska

Trump congratulated Putin on his sham election

Trump balked at sanctions for Skripal poisoning

Trump nixed US statement about Russian war

Trump praised pro-Russian leaders in Europe

Trump didn’t publicly condemn Russian attack

Trump defended Soviet invasion of Afghanistan

Trump’s Syria withdrawal gave Putin a boost

Trump repeated Kremlin talking points on ISIS

Trump spread Russian myths about Ukraine

Trump temporarily froze US aid for Ukraine

Trump smeared US ambassador to Ukraine

Trump considered visiting Putin on Russian soil

Trump gave Putin a PR victory on Covid-19

Trump invited Russia to 2020 G7 summit

Trump directed CIA to share intel with Russia

Trump sides with Putin

Russian parliament celebrated when Trump won.

Too flexible?
Need a reset?
The 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back.
 
Good recitation of the lies and half-truths spewed by the media.

Funny thing, after Trump took office Russia complained they couldn't get anyone in to meet with him. They didn't even know who to contact to make a request...
 
I should think so, given the following facts:

Trump campaign had over 140 contacts with Russia during his campaign

Trump has repeatedly praised Putin

Trump hired Manafort to run his campaign

Trump suggested Russia can keep Crimea

Trump aides softened GOP platform on Ukraine

Trump made light of Russian hacking

Trump capitalized on Russian meddling to win

Trump denied that Russia interfered in 2016

Trump transition undermined Russian sanctions

Trump was open to lifting Russian sanctions

Trump refused to say Putin is a killer

Trump mulled returning spy bases to Russia

Trump gave Russia classified intelligence

Trump criticized and alienated NATO allies

Trump was reluctant to sign Russian sanctions

Trump proposed a cyber unit with Russia

Trump thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats

Trump eased sanctions on Deripaska

Trump congratulated Putin on his sham election

Trump balked at sanctions for Skripal poisoning

Trump nixed US statement about Russian war

Trump praised pro-Russian leaders in Europe

Trump didn’t publicly condemn Russian attack

Trump defended Soviet invasion of Afghanistan

Trump’s Syria withdrawal gave Putin a boost

Trump repeated Kremlin talking points on ISIS

Trump spread Russian myths about Ukraine

Trump temporarily froze US aid for Ukraine

Trump smeared US ambassador to Ukraine

Trump considered visiting Putin on Russian soil

Trump gave Putin a PR victory on Covid-19

Trump invited Russia to 2020 G7 summit

Trump directed CIA to share intel with Russia

Trump sides with Putin

Russian parliament celebrated when Trump won.
Obama, Russia invades Crimea.
Trump, Russia stays within its borders.
Biden, Russia invaded Ukraine.
2024, Putin endorses Biden.

The evidence is pretty compelling.
 
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