We Trade Our Lives For Money

[Unkotare]

Show yours.

YOU made the claim, you monumental idiot.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Some 31% of women and 27% of men signed up for Social Security at age 62 in 2018, down from around 54% of women and 50% of men in 2005

It's not because they want to work. If they could retire at 62, they would. Seems like the American middle class isn't what it was even as recently as the Bush era.

The good thing about corona is it's gotten a lot of rich people to get out of the job game leaving openings for the rest of us. Guys who would have normally worked another 10 years are retiring early. Sitting at home for a year during corona they got used to it. LOL

Eh? My dad retired and then found a new career. He was bored after 3-mos and they don't need the money. Retired at 66, he is 71 now. Loves working.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Do you have different numbers? Prove me wrong.

Teachers above 55 is 19%

Table 2.Average and median age of public school teachers and percentage distribution of teachers, by age category, sex, and state: 2011–12

This is the Schools and Staffing Survey web site. On this site researchers can find out about SASS items that may be relevant to their work, survey respondents can learn more about the survey they

nces.ed.gov

 

[Unkotare]

Everything bobobrainless pretends to respond to is shit he just makes up or painfully obvious strawmen that he wants to respond to. He is a special combination of dishonest, incredibly stupid, morally bankrupt, and completely hollow. The absolute worst sort of useless democrat hypocrite.

 

[Woodznutz]

Not really. Go to other indusltarlized countries and you could know someone for months before you found out what they did for a living as it is not as much of their identity as it is here in the US.

Even surnames reflect this fact.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210409-why-we-define-ourselves-by-our-jobs

 

[Unkotare]

Maybe in some flaccid, slack-ass euro-holes where people are raised to see work as an evil burden to be avoided at all costs no one talks about what they do for a living, but most of the people I've interacted with all over the world do not avoid the topic. If what you do isn't a big part of who you are, you are doing something wrong.

 

[Blues Man]

Working for money is a bad strategy.

Doing good works and working for money are 2 entirely different things

 

[Woodznutz]

Working for money is a bad strategy.

Doing good works and working for money are 2 entirely different things

We work for money so that eventually the money works for us.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Even surnames reflect this fact.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210409-why-we-define-ourselves-by-our-jobs

Your link agrees with me that tying our identity to our job is not really all that good of a thing

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Working for money is a bad strategy.

I disagree. I do my current job because they pay me very well to do so. It seems a fair exchange to me.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Maybe in some flaccid, slack-ass euro-holes where people are raised to see work as an evil burden to be avoided at all costs no one talks about what they do for a living, but most of the people I've interacted with all over the world do not avoid the topic. If what you do isn't a big part of who you are, you are doing something wrong.

Why should what "I do" be a big part of whom I am?

I am a Data Scientist by trade, that is what I do in exchange for a salary. It is not "who I am". I would much rather be known for my baking skills or my mediocre golfing or my two amazing children!

I am pretty sure if you asked the people I golf/drink beer/do events with at my American Legion hall what I did for a living none of them would be able to tell you.

The people my wife works with know me as the guy that sends them goodies to eat while working. When she tells them I am Statistician (my official job title) they are all surprised.

There are so many more things like life more important that "what we do" to earn a living.

 

[Unkotare]

Why should what "I do" be a big part of whom I am?
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Because it occupies a large part of your life, and because if you don't find your work meaningful in some way, you are in the wrong profession. Work isn't an enemy or a "necessary evil."

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Because it occupies a large part of your life,

For many people too large a part. If one works 40 hours a week and sleeps 6 hours a night that is still less than 50% of their week used up. Yet we let that 24% of our time (not even including in vacation and holidays, which puts it under 200) define us? Does that seem logical?

and because if you don't find your work meaningful in some way, you are in the wrong profession.

Yes and no. My work is "meaningful" as it helps other people if I do my job well, and I do. Do I have a passion for it? not really. I guess I did while I was a Marine, but that is more than just a job.

Now it is about getting the max amount of money with the best work/life balance. Even when I choose my Masters program it was about the field and how well it would pay. I work to be able to afford to do the things I want to do right now and to have an amazing retirement with my wife.

Work isn't an enemy or a "necessary evil."

True, it is not the enemy, but if you were not getting a pay check would you still show up to your job?

 

[Blues Man]

I disagree. I do my current job because they pay me very well to do so. It seems a fair exchange to me.

I never worked for money.

I worked to accumulate assets which then pay me.

Trading your hours for dimes is not a good strategy because then your time is no longer yours it belongs to whoever is buying it

 

[Unkotare]

For many people too large a part. .....

Says who?

 

[Unkotare]

... If one works 40 hours a week and sleeps 6 hours a night that is still less than 50% of their week used up. Yet we let that 24% of our time (not even including in vacation and holidays, which puts it under 200) define us? Does that seem logical?
...

That's not a matter of logic. Maybe you should consider your use of the word "let" there.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I never worked for money.

I worked to accumulate assets which then pay me.

So you worked a barter system and they gave you assets in exchange for your time? What assets did you get in exchange for your time?

Trading your hours for dimes is not a good strategy because then your time is no longer yours it belongs to whoever is buying it

But I took those dimes and accumulated assets which are now paying me as well as ensuring I have a good retirement. I am good with the trade I get for my 40 hours.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Says who?

Me obviously.

 

[braalian]

Having a job that provides a direct contribution to society certainly goes a long way toward making you feel like your not wasting a huge chunk of your life.

Some people go too far with the whole “my job is a calling from God” bit, though. Unless you’re lucky enough to have been born with trust funds, most of us are working primarily because we need a paycheck. Feeling good about your job is a nice side perk.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's not a matter of logic. Maybe you should consider your use of the word "let" there.

Which word would you prefer?