Man Retired With $4M Told Wife To 'Pretend We Are Dead Broke'

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A 51-year-old systems engineer said he and his 52-year-old wife, a former registered nurse, recently stepped back from full-time work with $4 million in savings. He still works fewer than 20 hours a week on contract. She is fully retired.

Before that shift, he set a rule.

"I've also made it clear to my wife to never tell my family we have money and to pretend that we are dead broke," he said.

The reason, he added, has been consistent for years. "My family won't stop asking for money."

He said the issue wasn't a one-time ask. It was a pattern.

"My mom, dad and brother are terrible with money."

According to his post, his father and brother worked in oil and gas, bringing in strong income during good years but facing layoffs in others. He said the problem wasn't just the income swings, but what happened during the high-earning periods.

"They have never save anything so they run up credit cards to pay for everything."

Over time, his parents repeatedly borrowed against their home. After 35 years, he said they have barely reduced the balance.

"They should be retired by cant," he wrote, adding that his father is now working again in his 70s as a school bus driver "because they have so much debt and no money."

From his perspective, that history made the outcome predictable if his family knew he had money.

The decision to act "dead broke" came from experience, not theory.

When his family saw vacation photos in the past, "they found out via facebook… And came knocking for money."

To avoid that cycle, he and his wife downplayed their finances and stuck to a consistent story. At one point, they even said they had won money but already spent it.

Her side of the family, he said, knows they are doing well but "never ask for money." His side, he said, reacts differently.

So when they reached partial retirement, they kept the same approach.

"I didn't tell them because I know the results are they would just ask as for money constantly".


Never discuss personal finances with family. Not even your kids. Especially grown kids (young adults). Teach them about finances but never tell them about yours.

Tell them:

When I was young I was poor.....After a lifetime of hard work I am no longer young. ;)
 
/---/ My kids an
A 51-year-old systems engineer said he and his 52-year-old wife, a former registered nurse, recently stepped back from full-time work with $4 million in savings. He still works fewer than 20 hours a week on contract. She is fully retired.

Before that shift, he set a rule.

"I've also made it clear to my wife to never tell my family we have money and to pretend that we are dead broke," he said.

The reason, he added, has been consistent for years. "My family won't stop asking for money."

He said the issue wasn't a one-time ask. It was a pattern.

"My mom, dad and brother are terrible with money."

According to his post, his father and brother worked in oil and gas, bringing in strong income during good years but facing layoffs in others. He said the problem wasn't just the income swings, but what happened during the high-earning periods.

"They have never save anything so they run up credit cards to pay for everything."

Over time, his parents repeatedly borrowed against their home. After 35 years, he said they have barely reduced the balance.

"They should be retired by cant," he wrote, adding that his father is now working again in his 70s as a school bus driver "because they have so much debt and no money."

From his perspective, that history made the outcome predictable if his family knew he had money.

The decision to act "dead broke" came from experience, not theory.

When his family saw vacation photos in the past, "they found out via facebook… And came knocking for money."

To avoid that cycle, he and his wife downplayed their finances and stuck to a consistent story. At one point, they even said they had won money but already spent it.

Her side of the family, he said, knows they are doing well but "never ask for money." His side, he said, reacts differently.

So when they reached partial retirement, they kept the same approach.

"I didn't tell them because I know the results are they would just ask as for money constantly".


Never discuss personal finances with family. Not even your kids. Especially grown kids (young adults). Teach them about finances but never tell them about yours.

Tell them:

When I was young I was poor.....After a lifetime of hard work I am no longer young. ;)
/----/ My kids and grandkids never ask for money. I'm rather generous with them all.
 
Essentially agree with this guy though I believe our modified view is a better one .
We tell our young grown - up adults the full truth of our situation , but first instil into them that they must find their own ways to achieve material success.
With natural parental and advisory help.

However , they are allowed to make Wealth / Business Acquisition propositions which are discussed openly but dealt with as firmly and rigorously as a Company Board of Directors discusses financial projects / propositions .
And everything is memorialised in writing , dated and witnessed .
 
If I could only convince people to start investing when they are young, when they reach my age they won't be sweating about money. While they wait for their portfolio to grow, they will still probably be asking you for money. 🤷‍♂️
 
Fortunately I have few broke relatives and none closer than a solitary first cousin who made Megan's List Personally, I only have a few million, but I still like a lowbrow existence. My living relatives probably think I'm broke
 
I only have a few million,
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If true, you should be helping people with all that loot. You can just as easily give anonymously and expect no recognition in return.
No....he should not.
Giving money away doesn't change anyone or anything except for the briefest of moments. Only an idiot believes otherwise.
Currently we have several politicians who think this way...some rather famous.

He, himself, and what he knows and his attitude about how to earn a living and accumulate wealth are what needs to be spread around. Not his money.

Apparently you have no idea as to what is truly valuable.
 
No....he should not.
Giving money away doesn't change anyone or anything except for the briefest of moments. Only an idiot believes otherwise.
Currently we have several politicians who think this way...some rather famous.

He, himself, and what he knows and his attitude about how to earn a living and accumulate wealth are what needs to be spread around. Not his money.

Apparently you have no idea as to what is truly valuable.

You have no idea what giving even means, or why people do it. That's kind of sad, really.
 
If I could only convince people to start investing when they are young, when they reach my age they won't be sweating about money. While they wait for their portfolio to grow, they will still probably be asking you for money. 🤷‍♂️
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If I could only convince people to start investing when they are young, when they reach my age they won't be sweating about money. While they wait for their portfolio to grow, they will still probably be asking you for money. 🤷‍♂️
/—-/ My first real job with a Fortune 50 company and my mananger insisted all his reps sign up for every company benefit offered, including stock purchase and 401k. And I did.
 
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It should not elicit hostility, or contempt, but disagreement is fine. A lifetime of Rush Limbaugh has lingering effects, I get it.
Never cared for Rush, I just have some common sense about me, something you sorely lack.

How one man can tell another that he should give away his money is beyond me.
 
Never cared for Rush, I just have some common sense about me, something you sorely lack.

How one man can tell another that he should give away his money is beyond me.

Just suggestung charity elicits a Pavlovian response amongst some. The larger reason of Republicans steering this message into their base over the past 40-50 years is another argument altogether.

It elicits visions of crab legs and food stamps. :eek:
 
Just suggestung charity elicits a Pavlovian response amongst some. The larger reason of Republicans steering this message into their base over the past 40-50 years is another argument altogether.

It elicits visions of crab legs and food stamps. :eek:
Using voting and IRS data for the residents of 3,000 counties across the nation, the four-professor research team found, according to the New York Times, that counties which are “overwhelmingly Republican” report higher charitable contributions than Democratic-dominated counties.
 
Using voting and IRS data for the residents of 3,000 counties across the nation, the four-professor research team found, according to the New York Times, that counties which are “overwhelmingly Republican” report higher charitable contributions than Democratic-dominated counties.

You keep selling that lie

Donating to charity does not mean you are feeding the poor

Those Republican donors are mostly contributing to the church they belong to. Other charitable donations can include Little League, the local opera house and the environment
 
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